1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes, I think there needs to be more police presence. But that's only a part of a much larger problem.
The far left - which controls most large cities and has for decades, has never been overly interested in reducing crime except for in wealthy areas where their donors live. For these people, using "racism" as a wedge issue and an excuse for more taxes and more power and as an excuse not to follow the law is far more important than solving the crime problem. They need black people to be in poverty and despair and to be dependent on the government - that keeps black people voting for the left on every election cycle, despite the fact that circumstances for poor blacks have gotten steadily worse since the 1960s under the left's leadership.
The police can come in and make arrests, but if DAs decline to prosecute, or if juries decline to convict, or if judges give light sentences for serious crimes like rape and murder, then all the police in the world aren't going to solve the crime problem. It all has to work as a system, and everyone needs to have the same goals - and today, half or more than half of the "justice system" don't care about justice, but rather "woke activism" and Marxism. No wonder crime is out of control. Murders in Portland are up over 800%, and in NYC nearly 400%, and other serious crimes are also skyrocketing - especially on those hotspots as well as San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit, Seattle, Minneapolis, and everywhere else that "woke politics" have invaded. When you have no interest in punishing criminals, of COURSE you get more crime, and it's a lot more than just the police who are responsible for that.
There's a few other big problems. Most people don't understand how policing works, and especially how policing works in high-crime, high-violence areas - and most of the mainstream media exploits this and constantly gives their opinions that police SHOULD have done this or that - including stupid things like "shoot them in the leg" or "shoot the weapon out of their hand." With the media, most of it isn't ignorance either - it's intentionally framing the situation to make it look as bad as possible and - whenever it involves a white cop and a black subject - to be as racist as possible. Never mind that a policy is officially taught or that white people are treated exactly the same way in the same situation - it MUST be racist!
And that's the last point: if someone is committing a crime, especially a potentially deadly crime, they should EXPECT police to treat them like a dangerous CRIMINAL, and the color of their skin is irrelevant. A black cop can shoot a dozen black criminals, or a white cop a dozen white criminals, and you'll never hear about it in the media, because it doesn't advance the racist narrative, but anything that MIGHT be remotely questionable (especially before all the relevant facts have been collected) is AUTOMATICALLY going to be called racist, and the implication, if not the outright accusation, is that racism was the PRIMARY reason for whatever happened - completely ignoring the crimes being committed. That is the far left at work, and as long as those people control policy, those cities they control are going to be war zones, with or without police.
Why do you think the Portland riot squad quit en masse? Their leadership - at all levels -completely failed them, and so now, Portland doesn't have cops to respond to their DAILY riots. It's now Mad Max in Portland - and other cities want to follow that model...10 Reply
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452 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Did you know almost 0 training is received on hand to hand combat.
A 20 something cop fresh from academy. Sees a 6ft man coming at him with a knife instead of talking him down this guy's more likely to shoot.
He's no confidence in himself.
Cops aren't racist.
There are policies in place that let them do things they shouldn't do.
Such as quotas.
If I drive 20 min to a bad neighborhood I'll find some people down on there luck addicts, drunks etc they're an east target to meet my quota that should stop.
Cops should be better funded. Each academy is different each department receives different levels levels training aoem are good some are bad.
Fund police training equally across the board. So these people are trained to think instead of shoot.00 Reply
Perhaps, but the predominantly black communities already have a lot more police presence than predominantly white communities. Not only that, but white police can be a lot more harmful to black communities than they are beneficial. Recent and less recent death counts support that over policing of black communities has resulted in more deaths of black individuals.
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341 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I agree, but I also think that things like the police force and political offices should be held by people who are actually qualified and want to do the job, rather than people who aren't qualified and are only accepted to fit a certain demographic quota.
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We need less police
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u +1 yThe annual FBI crime statistics indicate that is the primary source of crime in the US.
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+1 yThey need it but they don't want it.
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+1 ynope this is not the solution. more police wil just mean more interactions with police and more arrests and more jail/prison overcrowding.
before anyone says "don't commit crimes duh" just remember stop and frisk is still in play in a lot of these areas117 Reply
Asker+1 yStop & frisk is in play everywhere in the US…. It’s a perfectly legal and tactical tool used by police.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/stop_and_frisk- +1 y
and its also a terrible tactic to use. legal =/= good
Asker+1 yRead the link.
It’s not a terrible tactic at all.- +1 y
it is used disproportionately on black people www.ramapo.edu/.../Stack-FINAL.pdf
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www.nytimes.com/.../...top-and-frisk-new-york.html
also your site only describes the law it doesn't prove its effectiveness or not
Asker+1 yThere are situations where stop & frisk can be deemed illegal, but it’s still a tactic and legal tool used by law enforcement today and will continue to do so in the future.
The issue is whether or not the stop & frisk was legal not the actual stop & frisk.
Officers can abuse this but it’s not widespread in all jurisdictions.- +1 y
are you ignoring what im saying here? there is obvious implicit racial bias with using this tactic. it targets predominantly black poor area's. i provided two links now. i can find even more than that to prove it
Asker+1 yThere isn’t it called an implicit CRIME bias instead? Especially in certain high crime areas where stop & frisk is used more frequently.
Just because you provided links doesn’t mean you’re correct.
It just means you found people who don’t like stop & frisk and choose to pieces/ articles on why they don’t like it.
These links cannot prove that officers didn’t have just reasonable suspicion to stop the individuals
And the links don’t prove that officers legitimately didn’t have the caution or worry that the individuals stopped didn’t have a weapon (frisk).
You cannot show me that anywhere in those links.
Asker+1 y*Why isn’t it called implicit CRIME bias instead*
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loll ok i think i know where your agenda is now.
look mate the evidence ifs EVERYWHERE. just one google search and i can already find soo many sources detailing how much stop and frisk targets these communities and hurts them. not my fight you're too blind to see. or you just conveniently ignore them to suit and agenda. one of the two. want me to post more for you? duckduckgo.com/
Asker+1 yI don’t have an agenda.
It’s simple.
It’s a legal tool used by police officers.
Arrest is a legal tool
Use of force is
Can these be abused? Yes
Can people think these are abused when they’re not and contort numbers and data to prove their case? Yes
You’ve yet to show me a source that proves cops are racist towards blacks, which is why stop & frisk is used disproportionately on them.
I think that’s what you’re getting at and you haven’t found one piece to prove that.- +1 y
sure budddy you tell yourself that. its not racist at all.
"The regression analysis shows that as in previous years, stop and frisk rates vary significantly depending on the race of the detainee, with Blacks both stopped and frisked at higher rates. In addition, there is strong evidence of racial disparity in legally unfounded stops and frisks as Blacks are substantially more likely to be subject to a stop or frisk lacking reasonable suspicion"
aclupa.org/.../...ort_on_14th_amendment_issues.pdf
check out all the handy charts here too.
Asker+1 ySee, now I can say that’s your agenda lol.
"The regression analysis shows that as in previous years, stop and frisk rates vary significantly depending on the race of the detainee, with Blacks both stopped and frisked at higher rates. In addition, there is strong evidence of racial disparity in legally unfounded stops and frisks as Blacks are substantially more likely to be subject to a stop or frisk lacking reasonable suspicion"
So, in other words…
We don’t have concrete evidence, but we will assume based on our observations that cops are indeed racist, which is why they are performing more stop and frisks on blacks…….
Yeah…. No…..
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if thats what you read there... there's no hope for you dude.
you could literally be looking at the color blue and come out of it thinking its green. that about how blind you are
Asker+1 yIt’s surprising that you think that these are actual FACTS proving cops are indeed racist and what’s why they stop and frisk blacks.
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cause they are facts dude. get over it. or don't stay ignorant.
Asker+1 yNo, that’s your issue.
They are ASSUMPTIONS & SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATIONS on observations.
I can give you an entirely different reason why stops & frisks are high.
You can counter that.
Who is right? Well, depends, but really no one because they are assumptions and interpretations.
Person A: “Cops stopped 12 black people today, that’s racist.”
Person B: “Cops stopped 12 black people today, they must’ve committed crimes.”
See what I’m getting at
What they really need is the military to roll in hard and fast and kick doors. Breach, bang, and clear… Treat the black community like Fallujah and clear the terrorists that are all over the internet in videos so that the rest of the community that is held hostage by their crime wave can go back to normal life.
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+1 yBlacks are 23% off the US population. Their 80% of the homicides. Unfortunately the answer is either eliminating them with apparently is illegal or flossing their communities with money… both have been suggestions neither are going to happen. Businesses will not open in their areas because of crime. And we’ll Hitler was a thing…
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Hum you sure? Could sworn it was 23 but whatever even worse. What ever black dude doing all this killing must be a real Ted Bundy mfer killing thousands on his own every year…
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Of course.. Depends on the "Black" community because there are some generally safe ones, but yeah the "hood" definitely doesn't need police defunded.. The only real threat to us are the neighborhood terrorizers shooting innocent people while trying to kill their enemy or competition..
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+1 yI think more black people should join their local police departments and be the change they want to see.
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+1 yNope. Let the blacks police themselves. There is no reason a police officer should have to intervene when blacks are engaged in self slaughter, drug trafficking, gang banging, et al If it means a white police officer will automatically be seen as the criminal.
If I were a modern police officer I would just wait until the shooting stopped, than slowly roll over and take a report.00 Reply 8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Depends, is the police from America or is it from another developed nation? American police does more harm than good, objectively speaking as in there has been times where the police refused to work and crime went down.
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+1 yNope I don't think you should pick someone because of their colour, (Only on merit) There needs to be a MUCH better screening process though for police in certain parts of America. Racism cannot be tolerated with any police force.
00 Reply From what I've read in the BLM literature, in order to decrease crime in black communities we need to defund police. From my understanding, police are the cause of crime in black communities.
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+1 yAny community that has a lot of crime needs more police presence regardless of the skin color of the people in that community...
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+1 yBlack communities need mothers and father's in same home raising their kids on bible principles. Instead liberals in the Government pay black men to run around and knock up black and white women out of wedlock. They are paying him not to work either.
00 Reply 18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Overall black and white poverty stricken neighborhoods are crime ridden. When factoring in pop % there’s a higher number of black communities. But is that because they’re animals? Or could there possibly be institutional racism? #crt
02 Reply12.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Erm... you're aware most Blacks are killed by cops, or running from cops, right?
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+1 yA. Its the police unions that need to be abolished.
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+1 yI think the black community needs more “BLACK” police presence
00 Reply 8.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They need more but a lot less corrupt as a lot of city cops are.
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+1 yThey need to stop doing stupid things like drugs, fighting, not working, not getting educated. Etc.
00 Reply I think they need a school system that isn't corrupt. Teacher are horrible at doing there job.
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+1 yBetter police. More != Better
10 Reply 3.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. More of them in the police force
00 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Disagree
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+1 yI agree. Less police = more crime
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+1 yAgreed.
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+1 yLess
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