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I wouldn’t describe the IDF as “great” by any means. IDF soldiers have brutally attacked Palestinians by using excessive force or and cases of rape have also taken place, not to mention they have also arrested Palestinian children, killed Palestinians and for their crimes they’re not always held accountable. Oh and let’s not forget the IDF soldiers on TikTok lol, confusing the Sudanese flag with the Palestinian flag, one heavily insinuating that she doesn’t want peace with the Palestinians, another accusing the Palestinians of faking a funeral for the media when the video she shared originated in Jordan from over a year ago, and she so conveniently disabled her comments on that video, meanwhile on all of her other videos the comments are enabled.
I find it astounding that some can label the IDF as “great” or another I see is “the most moral army” when in actual fact it can very well be argued that this army is criminal and not always held to account as they should be.
@Still-alive It’s definitely important to learn about this. I know quite a bit about this conflict, but I still accept that there’s a lot I don’t know and a lot I have to learn, so I’m still learning. But I know one thing for sure, seeing the suffering of the Palestinian people is absolutely heartbreaking and that I will stand with those people for as long as I live.
@Avicenna Hamas do play a role in Palestinian suffering arguably. And “Palestinian Islamic Jihad”? Do you even know what Jihad is or do you just get spoon fed by the media?
Anyone who has been following this issue has seen countless videos of IDF soldiers brutally attacking Palestinians, Israel bomb Palestinians schools and hospitals claiming they are Hamas bases- meanwhile they provide no evidence to the world to prove so. To claim the suffering is homegrown is an absolute absurdity clearly riddled by bias and you not wanting to see the full picture. I don’t deny that Hamas contribute to Palestinian suffering too, but let’s remember Hamas rockets are powered by fertilizer, meanwhile Israel has precision guided weapons in which they continually bomb Palestine. Check out this video, by your logic what you’re insinuating is that Israel has nothing to do with the suffering of this little Palestinian girl:
https://youtu.be/-cOxmVxOYXA
@tartaarsaus Oh I didn’t know that, thanks for telling me. :) You know because the word “Jihad” has lost it’s actual meaning so many will use the term “Islamic Jihad” thinking it’s some kind of call for terrorism because it’s just another word that’s been hijacked by the media as well as misused by those who try to equate Islam to terrorism whether it be the terrorists themselves or far-right terrorists.
@Pterdon Show me what sources? I can show you mine, and for your information that is Hamas not the Palestinian civilians and do you know what Hamas rockets are fueled by? Usually fertilizer or sugar. Meanwhile Israel has precision guided weapons and mass advantages over the Palestinians, it’s not a fair war given they’re not on equal footing.
@Pterodon Except they didn’t pick the fight, they’re forcibly being evicted from their homes, continually being bombed and subjected to extreme poverty- if you think they chose this then it shows how much you really know about this issue. Pretty much nothing.
Oh and by the way, you still didn’t send me your sources.
Oh so now you’re using racism to justify your argument? You’re doing anything but telling it like it really is. If it’s really like that, then please show me your sources so I can see that for myself. By the looks of things, it doesn’t look like you’re against Palestine because you think they’re wrong, you’re against Palestine because they’re Arabs.
You know I linked a video here of a little Palestinian girl and a little Israeli boy showing how they live through the war. I’d love to see you look that little Palestinian girl in the eye and tell her what you’re typing here. If you couldn’t it shows you know you’re wrong, if you could it really shows how heartless and diabolical you really are.
So, do you think every Palestinian death is due to “suicide attacks” and or is it not more realistic to believe that yes, some Palestinian deaths will be a result of that, but most are a result of the Israeli dropped on Palestine.
Except it’s not the truth it’s your biased version of the truth because you’re not even willing to look at the Palestinians as human beings let alone sympathize with them.
The difference between you and I is I acknowledge there’s wrong on the side of the Palestinians say with Hamas, but there is a far greater wrong on the side of Israel given they’re the bigger power, they’re far more capable, and look at the numbers. If you look at the statistics, far more innocent Palestinian civilians are killed than innocent Israeli civilians- one innocent life lost is too many, I don’t care who it is, if it was an innocent life it shouldn’t have been lost- yet judging by your attitude the lives of the Palestinians lost don’t matter.
“Great” Israeli army?
So forcing yourself onto land that doesn’t belong to you, killing innocent children and taking away their families, kicking people out of their homes is “great”? What’s worse is this so-called army isn’t ashamed of their actions.
The Israeli army is not an army. It’s a group of damn terrorists.
@Rennitenn I know more about it than you
If you think the UN is a reliable organisation then right there and then I’m not having a discussion with you. There’s clearly an imbalance of knowledge and intelligence between us and this is a waste of my time.
ANYONE who supports Israel and the Israeli army is a terrorist. And that is the end of that.
You think you do. But your full of hate and propaganda coming out of your ears. Israel didn't "take land" from anyone. You show your ignorance right off the bat. On top of the other ignorant things you claim. Nevermind that your Palestininian low life idols can't run a city block, much less a country. Lobbing bombs indicrismiately killing Isralei children. But that likely means nothing to you. Because you don't see them as human. It's funny how much compassion you have but it's selective. Go lay with Palestinianian your dogs in the mud.
@Leavesbound doesn’t matter. The rest of the world agreed Israel need their own land. You Arabs were out voted
@Pterodon I'm not Arab, I'm an Irish-American. And we know what it feels like to be displaced and replaced by an invasion force and to be slaughtered in a land grab. It's too late for the Irish and too late for the Native Americans (of which I am part) but it is not too late to give the Palestinians back their land. Oh and the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is whether they won or lost the war.
@Leavesbound Amazing!!! Thank you!
@Leavesbound I’m Irish American too. Here’s the thing. Nothing ever stays the same. Smart cultures sense change coming and learn to adapt to it and embrace it. The Irish didn’t, the native Americans didn’t, neither did the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs that you mention nothing about because it was Spain that conquered them. Yes it is too late and will not happen. Keep dreaming
I've been studying the Israeli military since I was a little kid.
I remember the conflict in 1982 with Lebanon.
The news was posting the daily tally of downed aircraft. From my count Israel lost 11 and combined Lebanon and Syria lost over 80.
I've numerous books on their feats.
How Benjamin Netanyahu's older brother was the sole loss during the raid on Entebbe.
There was a amphibious raid on an Egyptian anti aircraft missile site. Benjamin Netanyahu was a machine gunner and jumped off the boat too early. Someone grabbed him by the hair and pulled him up until they reached shallow enough water to let go of him.
Dude, loads of stuff.
I think their military is awesome.
I've got a shelf in my library full of books about them.
At least it's better than an Islamic army. Fuck a whole army of Muslims raping women left right and center this is what they do. Muslims are like a militia of barbarian's no clear leadership because their religion is what stops them from being a good army.
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It's amazing how those countries most dedicated to God are those most dedicated to killing each other.
I can’t imagine fighting in an area where you’re outnumbered in every direction. It’s astonishing that Israel has survived against the odds.
‘Great Israeli Army’? This the funniest thing I’ve seen all day. Maybe y’all would be great if your gov and idf acted like humans, stopping pushing Palestinians out, killing them, taking this homes, attacking their place of worship, destroying their homes… the list goes on and on and on, if you want more specifics the Human Rights Watch 213-paged report about all the HR’s violations. It’s a lot.
There's no doubt that the Israeli army is a fine fighting force.
Don't F with God's favs.
I love Israel. I don't know why but I do. I will stand up for them any day of the week.
Their victories in past wars is beyond miraculous. They don't call Him the Living Lord for no reason. I love that Trump moved the embassy to Jersualem. But just like it's not popular or hip to take up for Israel- so it is for Trump.
But I've never done anything cause it was cool.
Like I like to say. Forever Israel. She will not fall until the Lord sees fit.
I’m 97.8% sure you’re just asking questions to get strongly negative responses.
As for my thoughts on the IDF, depends. It does many things. Some things well, some things poorly.
Lol I never asked you about your thoughts, you’re asking other people.
Well, both Israeli and Dutch and Jewish.
It’s obviously not about you
Personally I like their army and their country.
Too nice to the enemy. They recently lost some battles because they came in half cocked. You got to come in aggressively to kick every opposing males ass for 16 to 60 , and be willing to kill these bastards.
Great guys. Got to work with them a couple times overseas.
I would not like to mess with them
That It isn't "great" and more a paramilitary terror group, than an army.
I don't see greatness in soldiering.
They're just murderers in fancy costumes.
You misspelled terrorists.
I like the Israeli army. I've seen videos of the army and they are quite impressive.
They wouldn't be shit if the US wasn't funding them and supplying them with weapons.
Lol, Israel? ok.
Oh yes, your country is 100% in the right and everyone else is a monster.
powerful and tough. were you in it? I hear its brutal
Your question says it all for me.
I don't have any thoughts about it
They’re the strongest in the Middle East period
How do you think Palestine still exists although so small? How do you think the Palestinians were defending themselves (and the news were exaggerating it as if they had wiped out the Israelis). It’s all funded and helped by Iran. The Palestinians are a group of simple indigenous people with no army let alone possess their own weapons.
If Iran wasn’t the strongest I don’t think Trump - who believes that the US is “great” would have been so threatened by Iran... do you keep up with the news?
Politics doesn’t work like that. Iran cannot just enter Palestinian borders and defend the Palestinians. Moreover, they’re not a bunch of terrorists like Israel is. They don’t fire at people and children for the sake of doing it. And then boast about it on social media. Disgusting.
Not familiar with them
murders of palestines
Badass.
İsrael Terorist
Just an army.
Organized terrorists.
Don't fuck with 'em
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