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because you can't legitimate oppression of men, if you don't argue for an equally bad thing they did first. feminism isn't about equality. i guess that goes without saying.
The feminists I've heard of would consider it sexual harassment or rape if their husbands had sex with them on their honeymoon night and they didn't enjoy the sex the first time.
Staring too much can creep a girl out
But if she wears open and lewd cloths, it doesn't make sense.
respecting the people around you is your responsibility regardless
@KennyG72 she doesn't respect me if her arsе or boobs are out.
it shouldn't be about who she is, but rather who you are. But then I'm seeing a trend in your comments that indicates that maybe its you that's the problem.
@KennyG72 there's no problem in me but in feminism that lacks logic. I wanna you respect me and don care to which direction I rotate my head.
what she wear doesn't let u to abuse her... u sound like a typicall victim blamer. Now staring, then rape...
@girlinthemirror rape is rape. It's the disgusting crime. But looking is just looking. Nothing more. I'm not following/chasing her, I'm not opening my mouth to threw out vitriolic comment or lewd suggestion, I'm not touching her or even getting closer. I'm just rotating my own head, the part of my own body and it does not imply NOTHING but just rotating my head.
The problem is the "too much" part. Who defines exactly what "too much" is? One woman can say 5 minutes is "too much" and another can say 3 seconds is "too much". Its not fair to men because you're forcing men to be mindreaders (which is impossible).
Well staring at someone’s ass too long is very telling.
How long is too long? If I stare at Johnny Depp's ass, is that sexual harassment?
@devilman666 Uh.. yeah? Long enough to make it blatantly obvious?
@devilman666 Not exactly sexual harassment but if you’re following someone to stare at their ass, that can be considered as such.
Because they are subscribers to a deranged and insane ideology that needs to be rid of society by whatever means required.
Is only harrassment if she finds you physically unnattractive.
that is the point...
Ogling is not the same as glimpsing. Straight up staring at somebody without saying anything is weird.
please, if feminists had it their way, any act of looking at the opposite sex would be considered rape and punishable by execution.
Its best to not pay any attention to worthless failed women like that. No rational man wants them anyway.
If it makes the lady uncomfortable, indeed you're in the wrong
Lmao imagine being uncomfortable because a guy took a SINGLE glimpse of you during the day.
Depends on the guy
Of course..
Yeah, ugly guys should gouge their own eyes out to avoid sexually harassing women.
An attractive guy isn't automatic panty dropper, Sweetheart
No, you're right, but you made it clear that it's creepy when ugly guys check you out.
"Depends on the guy", meaning you are offended by a man looking at you, but only if you're not attracted to him.
Depends on the guy means if he's coworker I might date him, if he's the boss then no it's messier
If she's a student, it's good to be recognised or admired but if it's my teacher giving me the hot look, it's just weird
Don't just assume
How come feminism has to do about it.
I'd suggest you read more about it, you'll know if it is actually a thing or just some idea made popular by so called media.
I’ve kind of been doing it for some time and have got no complaints p. Or at least not directly, I’m not even sure if they know. Hopefully they look at me differently if they ever found out.
*hopefully they don’t*
If you get a upset at someone just looking at you and you want to consider that actual harassment, you are a pussy ass bitch.
Because men don't gaze or glimpse at feminist women who 9 times out of 10 are not very attractive. Yes, they are jealous and resentful. The feminist attackers who making an issue out of everything men do is their way at getting back at men.
Because they have become professional victims. They imagine you are raping them with your eyes.
Because they don't get the consequences for gaslighting. They just do it for their own gain
They like to take advantage of the fact that guys always get the consequences
because feminists are brainless foolish bitches who acting two faces
What's even funnier is when you dusiterest them or ignore they're presence... they get all offended and mad... Lmao
Just another thing to complain about. They want the world to bend to their every whim.
Because they are mentality retarded, do as you want.
Because victimhood is power and women are the least victimized class of people to have ever existed.
they don't have any other problems in their life. Like I've been accused of the gaze for simply zoning out before.
Feminists just want to be left alone. They don't want a man at all. Why would they?
No bud, they want a fucking beta-male to have control over and treat him like a second-class citizen. But more extreme ones, i. s. the so-called feminazis, who actually form the majority of feminists these days, are on their fucking way to become a pissed-off crazy retarded cat lady, so I agree with you partially.
@WBrandt Most beta males wouldn't look twice at one of these women. I am talking about the blue and pink haired ugly nasty women.
Irrational thinking, their initial thoughts were validated, so they decided to keep going.
Because they are super insecure and self-conscious and they always assume the worst.
Well, like it's your body your choice, they also have the right to their body and they can get offended if you stare at them.
"feminists" have what is known as "Mental Illness", for which the only cure is a quick and merciful knock upside the head with a shovel.
That’s ridiculous
sure
Because society is increasingly becoming a twisted, broken shithole where people can scream murder for a scratch that doesn't even draw blood.
Because they want their own logic to be used against them. If a fatass landwhale looks at man she is harassing him.
Because it is, wait until they make the charge for it having your eyes plucked out
She can't touch me because it's rape and harassment.
They'll call the police, sent you to court and pass the sentence as eye removal
Police in Russia would just laugh cause "gaze" is a fake accusement and there's no crime itself. Nothing relating to "rape" will have left. And the girl can be accused of making a fake accusement.
Everywhere is becoming liberal in order to be allowed to trade internationally
It hasn't been applying to Russia.
Given it a few more years, they be liberal or not allowed global trade
That shan't happen in Russia, if you don't agree, you know nothing about this country.
They fire their nukes and go full scorched earth before becoming liberal, don't make a mistake I'm not liberal but I can see them taking over like a disease
Liberals do many pretty good things. But lewdness some of them spread is disgusting.
Don't tell uncle Vlad, he loathes them passionately
He knows everything. And feminism, lgbt marriage, etc. will never be accepted in Russia. Cause it will lead to a civil war, the society won't accept this.
They are showing their cheeks, tits, and camels and then complain guys are looking at them.
I think they should arrest men who whistle at women like construction workers
Ego.
They think they’re entitled not to be bothered by anything.
I hear that Australia seems to think so. I remember hearing about a study on assault cases on college campuses there include "leering".
Because they're hypocrites, they don't say anything when a woman stares at a guy's crotch
Feminists consider a man living as an offense.
LMAO bro no they don't._.
The pink comments under this thread are the proof that you're incorrect.
mr there's a difference between looking at someone & staring them down like a hyena, doesn't matter who it is. i hope u don't do it too often XD
it shldn't b an argument about feminism, but since u've brought it up, some of my friends aren't allowed to go out & r being pushed into arranged marriages as soon as they can by their dads. this being a 1st world country they'd all like to have a choice without fear of abandonment & being shamed by their family. that's some real 'my body, my choice' stuff.
while others r out here like this, wtf. proper feminists fight the real fight, not this weird petty slappy stuff u're on about g
My answer was about you claiming feminists don't consider 'gaze' sexual harrassment. They do.
ahhhhhh sorry, my point was i think those people shldn't be labelled feminists. they aren't combating what is actually being addressed by the proper feminist movement & i feel like if you're going to call them feminists that's a bit of a joke bc they're not, my bad
Unfortunately, the good name of feminism and the actual GOOD feminism has been corrupted by what we see today and by so many women who call themselves "feminists". And many of these toxic feminists are indeed active on this website (and also under this thread). So any (young) woman better avoid calling herself a feminists if she doesn't share extreme views. This will only hurt a woman in the long run, especially when it comes to finding a quality partner.
i think the woman en question wld do better finding a partner who is open minded & not closed off to such whimsical possiblilities as feminists being respectable. no disrespect towards your opinion tho, i can't deny that there are some crazy ones out there who have been put in the spotlight far too of ten
I had no idea staring was considered wrong now.
Looking is not s3xual harrassment. Staring at you the whole time even if you made clear you dont want it is harrassment.
No, it's not. If smb doesn't do anything except just looking at something or someone, it nothing. It's just their body, their eyes. They're just parts of body. If you don't like what smb does - be tolerant - they can do what they want till they chase you or tell sth lewd or vitriolic.
Looking at someone is NEVER harassment. That’s not how the law works, nor should it since it makes men subject to constant harassment by women and removes all rational fact from the process.
Innocent till proven guilty, even if looking at someone was harassment it’s your burden to prove they were looking at you not someone else or even looking out the window behind you.
You have no right to be offended or upset, you definitely have no right to let your irrational offense ruin another persons life for doing nothing against the law.
You don't have the right to control people's eyes, no more than men have the right to control women's bodies. I know you're young and all, so you probably don't get it.
Still perverted to look at a person just like the people on the pic are doing it
It’s perverted to look at people? That means literally everyone is perverted.
Because they hate men.
Sources? Examples?
It’s not they are crazy
Most modern western feminists are idiots.
Cause a gaze says a lot
Because they’re idiots
A great man once said "feminism is cancer"
Really? I didn't know that
Most don't, but the ones who do are insane.
They don't.
because they're desperate to feel like victims.
Because they are cunts
Creep alert
In your head. Head and eyes are just part of body. If you paranoid it's only your problem. You can do with your body anything you want, wear what you want, and anybody can rotate his parts of his body to any direction he/she wants.
You’re a creepy loser period. If what you were saying was true then rape and masturbating outside would be legal. Keep being lame and staring at women though, that’s why y’all get rejected so much now.
I don't even waste my time with women anyway I'm More worried about putting money into the hobbies and to keeping a roof over my head and putting food on the table and keeping bills paid and building financial gain i stopped chasing women a long time ago i only see be value in women if she's willing to contribute to the work and development of the relationship and have long term relationship goals
? I didn’t ask
Sorry my apologies i am a bit drunk 🥺 right now
Rape
Never heard of that
Do they
they want attention
fuck the feminists