Apparently there is a trend of “TradWife” that is where women are choosing to stay home and be mothers essentially. I personally like that my lady has a fulfilling career outside the house and we share responsibilities within our blended family. I don’t think it’s inappropriate for a woman to choose to be a “TradWife” why do more radicalized feminists want to attack these more traditional families?
Is it fair to hurl blanket insults saying “alt right” or “Christian nationalists” agenda?
I feel like radical factions of the left want to terrorize women and obliterate family, to what end?
Are we supposed to engage in an endless war of the sexes?
Haven’t we had enough of this nonsense already? Accept that some women are not interested in what women’s studies professors espouse and leave them alone to live their lives as they see fit.
by the way this is coming from a registered Democrat.
Do feminists sometimes suffer from selective outrage?
I know project 2025 envisions women being railroaded into Traditional rolls and I do NOT support that. I just can’t help but feel criticism from the left, especially in university settings is as problematic as “Old Boy Republicans” trying to impose their fantasy of the 1950s on modern society.
Very true. I fear that we’ve organized ourselves into these fierce tribal camps on the right and left and simply refuse to accept the choices that others make for their own lives.
@notherndude84 I don't know how you view this from inside USA, from where I am, USA has this reputation to spawn extreme and incompatible worldviews since a long time already. To me, it has simply become more visible due to the generalization of internet access.
I agree, this TradWife fad has not been something I was generally aware of until recently. I don’t or would never support legislation that would require women to submit to this or any other way of living.
You are taking a small portion of feminists as an example and you are making it appear as if it is the reality. It would be like me shaming men because a smalk group of them hate women. I am a feminist. I have no issue with traditional wives. I support their choice. To me it requires a lot of trust towards the partner in order to be a traditional wife. I don't have it within me to trust someone to the point of being financially depended on them and I think making that choice is very difficult, but I support what others choose. There are traditional wives who happen to find respectful partners and they manage to take care of each other and I am glad it works out for them.
feminists have always suffered from selective outrage
if equality is all they cared about, why would they get all upset and butthurt over western men marrying traditional foreign women? oh yeah because classism, racism and sexism still exists amongst the feminist population
when a man on the Republican side is accused of rape, he's guilty even when proven innocent. when a man on the Democrat side is accused of rape, these feminists keep their mouth shut. selective outrage definitely exists
nobody is forcing women to do the tradwife lifestyle. that's a strawman they've made up to justify their envy over women who are happy in the tradwife lifestyle because misery needs company
I just don't see these things in real life with anyone I know. Stop going on line and worrying about this stuff. Life tour life and be happy. its not about why are some subset of a group of women act so and so. Just accept people in general are not going to behave and act accordingly to your norms. That said all this rhetoric in this site about why are men why are women nonsense is tiring. I take the time to answer to remind people I think most of this crap is online drama more than in real life reality.
Tell me a piece of legislation that is on the books that limits male control of our reproductive system that can cost us our lives. Just one. If you shift the goal post or answer with another question or get defensive just don’t respond.
I used to be pro life until I looked into the issue on a deeper level and actually listened to the other side’s arguments. It just seems abortion, miscarriage removal, high risk pregnancy terminations, etc. are a necessary choice to be considered for victims. Victims of systemic issues, rape, incest, child abuse, sexual assault, druggings, unwanted pregnancy via birth control method failures, etc. Theses victims who happen to be female didn’t ask for that.
*I feel like saying this, I hate the over outraged ‘feminists’ though I also hate the Tate Bros. I will advocate for men & women and show different opinions I agree with on both sides also don’t fear speaking out on issues I don’t agree with from both sides too. I walk the center lane.
Child access isn’t of our reproductive system. We can talk about child access, I believe a man has a right to see his children unless he is a threat to the woman since women who seek divorce tend to be murdered by their husbands in retaliation & deserve to feel protected. Again, men should be able to see their children in 99.9% of all cases just don’t want her to be unsafe. Glad we could reach a middle ground on pro choice, very good. I love finding compromise & overreach when possible. I will overreach too saying we should see all aspects of life, family, politics, and career and not leave anyone behind. You are a wise man for that.
And yes we agree on 90% the 10% Half n half, I honestly need to research more topics of this interesting discussion since you gave me plenty to think about. Have a nice day and a greater weekend man.
It's all selective outrage. Feminism as it is read from a dictionary, has already won. It should no longer exist. But what does a dying or dead movement do to stay alive?
That's right it finds new problems to keep going. The problem with that problem is the problems they're finding to "fight" for are retarded at this point. It's like a problem that's been inbreeding until all of it's offspring is retarded. There's only so much man-spreading or man-splaining ideas they can come up with to convince women to hate men. But somehow, they're going to find some way to blame all men for all their problems long before they start looking at themselves and their own to find solutions again.
Compare it to racial group movements... notice the similarities? Liberals pulled in the sexual group movements... what do the Liberals exploit... see what I mean?
Tradwife content is pretty clearly directed at the idea of saying that a traditionalist lifestyle is the only lifestyle a woman should have. Feminists don’t care if a woman chooses to be a traditionalist, what they care about is when traditionalists try to force their lifestyle, or in this case influence their lifestyle and try to convince others to join them because it’s “better” than any kind of independence. It ignores a lot of the issues in traditionalism on purpose.
True, though I believe that radical feminists are hardly quiet about their beliefs on how they believe women should be. My concern in general is that people on the far left are just as obnoxious and abusive as those on the right pushing for the adoption of project 2025 for example.
Spot on girl. Exactly. We don’t hate on women who want to be mothers or stay at home wives, we hate that other people try to bash us for not wanting to do the same….
@Northerndude84 Radical feminists don’t hate women, they hate men and what it means to continue patriarchal traditions while men are still in power. Radical feminists are focused on creating spaces exclusively for women without that influence. I can see how, to a man, this can come across as extremely exclusionist but it’s really just a different idea of what a woman’s life could be. It’s NOT the same as the bs project 2025 though. Feminists have no desire to remove basic human rights
I agree with you 100% with your views on project 2025, and I generally support equality of opportunity for women. I do fear that in western universities there is a brand of radical left wing ideology that is divisive and dangerous.
Alt-right is more dangerous, not debatable. I do think as a progressive we need to mind our collective beliefs for anything that could manifest itself as something bad. I can definitely see some emerging trends that make me uncomfortable.
The alt-right, whose voices are dominating conservative spaces, call for the death and removal of trans rights, civil rights, and women’s rights. There is no middle ground to be found without sacrificing the needs of someone vulnerable. You’re smart enough to know this, and I don’t want to hear you tell me how bad both sides are without explaining why because it just gives the impression that you either don’t care enough to know, or don’t have enough of a spine to make a decision because you rely too much on the opinions of others in your life.
I think the majority of people mostly have an issue with people who cannot think for themselves. If you genuinely want to be a stay at home mom/housewife then that's absolutely okay. It's when they're doing it because that's what their husband wants or is what is expected of them by their family or religion or peers.
Everyone... I mean everyone suffers from selective outrage. It's the human condition. The trick is realizing what your sacred cows are and how to realize how your bias colors your world view. If everyone did that. Left behind fear and anger. Thought critically and not emotionally we would all be better off.
Most of them lash out against the fact that no one wants them as wives themselves. So they make the loud and bold claim that they would never be as such and attack those who are
Its a tale as old as time itself
It would be like Cinderella’s step sisters saying they wouldn’t have dated the prince anyway after he didn’t chose them
Very unrealistic to force people into a life they don’t want. It’s also unlikely that men will accept the traditional lifestyle unless they want it either
I think it's a valid choice. It has to be a choice, though, not imposed by society. The women in your picture were dead right about Kavanaugh, though, weren't they?
100% in all reality it’s probably a choice that is good for America in the long run. It does need to be chosen by a couple, especially the women in such a situation.
About the same as conservatives who whine bitch and moan claiming to be "Pro-Life" and then being against things that are good for people already alive.
Another feminist whose trying to impose they're own beliefs and ideas into another individual without their consent nor opinion. It's like forcing a person to become muslim while they grew up christian it's stupid.
each to their own. If you can do that on one income more power to you. That is pretty much how it used to be, yet there is nothing wrong with working outside of the home as well.
Because they are a threat to their agenda and it gives men hope there are still traditional women existing in their country which encourages men to set that standard for women because most men don't like woke modern women.
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Of course. Identity group ideologies always turned into supremacy movements and never end up honest or rational. No matter how well-intentioned they started out as.
They suffer from the same bigotry as racists, anti Semites and trump haters.
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They need to obliterate family because the left is pro-gemocide but they know what happened in Nuremberg so making society eliminate itself over time is far more productive
@mandyfire98 In response to your last comment on the Tate thread, which you posted after blocking me (very cowardly)... yes, I have multiple friends and coworkers who take some of Tate's positive messages to heart. They take the good and ignore the bad, which is exactly what you as a feminist do.
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