If getting everyone vaccinated is so f$$king important. Why is the Democrats allowing anyone to walk across our Southern boarder with or without COVID-19. Power play by the Democrats to show you who is in charge and to keep the lazy people from working while collecting freshly printed money to stay at home!
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A vaccine is supposed to give one immunity- COVID jabs do not, just aimed at making the disease more manageable if contracted, and can't even do THAT all the time! Won't stop transmission, either.
Damn I love you you are so smart it's about time because back then on all of those there is no agenda they were real don't get me wrong this is real too what's really sad though is that the hospitals when people are dying no matter what it is they're putting down covid-19 and that's the part that really sucks because it's bullshit and if they put down the real reason they died we would see something here because if you look every year in the your City at the end of each year they have a death count of who died of what gunshot wound pregnancies cancer heart failure Hit and Run car accident so on and so on and every year they have a grand total of 20 different types of way people died and they have it. Account just him every year my city equals about 3,000 every year. The last year there was a miracle because not one person died of cancer not one person died of any kind of complications know that one person died from gunshot wounds that one person die from old age is a miracle out of the 20 different types of deaths every year none of them died of that not even the common cold which fifteen hundred of them usually die from the common cold last year is Miracle everybody died of covid-19 did you know that when 5G came out it came out in China China was the first one to start up their system they turned it on three days before covid-19 hits no 5G will give you the same symptoms as covid-19 now there's a lot of big business men they have lots of money invested in 5G there's also three thousand scientists who studied what would happen if we turned on 5G he said do not turn it on it will kill people he said it will change the the molecules in our drinking water. Okay so when the United States turned on their 5G that's when we got put in lockdown now it's been going on for a year now people's bodies are getting used to it but on the real areas out of town they're turning on 5G all over United States again whichever they have to turn it up higher and what happened we had to put back on her mask they're calling it something else the more people are in the hospital because they turned Beyond in rural areas they fired up that system everywhere no I'm not going to sit here and say that I'm right or wrong I'm going to say everybody do their research oh and by the way 5 G from day one like I said same symptoms as covid-19 except for day 1 of 5 G they said that it causes blood clots and people will die three months after covid-19 all of a sudden it causes blood clots isn't that just weird going by the way anytime did you ever around any Radioactive a i r and it's not much but 5ge does put out radiation and what they tell you to do is going to your house close your windows put a mask on take frequent showers drink lemon warm lemon to clean it out of your throat because otherwise it's going to mess up your thyroid gland and start messing up all year other organs it's just something to think about
I have been wondering this ever since I had it back in Feb 2020 when it was strong, and I suffered a bit, recovered, and have been around Covid infected people for going on 18 months and I am doing better than ever, peachy. I have had natural immunity all that time and it works. Bring on the next release of the new strains they have planned for us, I prefer the natural adaption. That has worked all my life.
There is physical evidence documented in the form of patents that big pharma, Fauci and others, patented the actual Covid virus and the vaccine a day after. The strains are computer generated and the numbers of viruses and vaccines they can create are infinite. They can patent a new virus, then a vaccine that only protects one spike protein at a time and keep their subjects shot-up with this stuff forever. Fauci sent funds for research in Wuhan because it was illegal in the US to create these strains. The vaccine manufactures downloaded DNA chain data from China to create these vaccines. All of these mRNAs are based on a computer generated strain and not actual isolation of the Covid itself, because the virus has never been isolated. All tests are based and computer generated virus and vaccine strains.
This is not a “vaccine” at all per the CDC’s own official definition because the Covid has not been isolated and cannot be killed or weakened to inject for an immune system response. Rather than the conventional understood vaccine, a computer generates a dna chain to be injected for an immune response for a single spike protein. The virus has many spike proteins and can easily mutate requiring a new shot. Therefore, big phama and some dark government deep state can now release and vaccinate continuously indefinitely to control the citizens. Once you control a population’s immune system, they have to bow to your will regardless of the demands put forth.
The thing that should concern every creature with an iq above a carrot is that there are >6000 direct vaccine deaths now (VAERS), and possible >20,000, and the MSM is hiding these facts and promoting the vaccine as safe. I now know a friend personally that died within 12 hrs of the jab. There are endless videos posted online of people that are permanently harmed from this vaccine and the question is when do the long-term effects kick-in. However, the-MSM, big-Pharma, the-puppet-government, and who knows what else, is pushing this jab with all force forward threatening choice and lying about the masks, contagiousness-of-the-natural-immune, the-vaxxer-non-contagiousness, the-vaccine-works, now-need-masks-with-the vaccine, and so as the insanity continues as long as the people are manipulated by false fear and respond as sheep-like. The world is on its way to being imprisoned and exterminated by way of the VAXXXX.
The price of removing Trump was/is, Covid-X-vaccines forever, $8 a gallon gas and shortages, food/water rations, electricity rationing, US citizens lost their right to vote, and war.
Profit. Yes, these greedy fucks are literally killing people over money, possibly control of society, and nothing else. The vaccine has caused so many heart attacks and other complications because the S1 spike protein makes you way sicker and more vulnerable than anything else. And the media is completely ignoring all of this, if not covering it up entirely. They'll then charge you for the rest of your life to get "better" using their same medicine. These people are literally on some Umbrella Corporation shit. Well I'm NOT going to be one of their zombies. I'm never getting that fucking vaccine. Vaccines in general are fine, but not this one. It's pure poison and the dumbest people of all are shaming everyone who doesn't want that poison in them.
There's so much speculation and obfuscation in "THE SCIENCE" that none of it makes sense. I'm all for a vaccine to help save lives. But they're pushing this vaccine even in people who already have natural immunity because they've already had the virus, with the excuse that they don't know how long that natural immunity will last. There's already been studies showing that people who contacted SARS in 2003 still have highly reactive antibodies against covid. In addition, they don't know how long the vaccine immunity lasts, either. So they're just replacing one unknown with another, while ignoring science that's contrary to their speculation. Part of the recommended protocols for getting the vaccine in the first place is testing to see if the patient has active cd8+ T cells in their blood, because giving them the vaccine is pointless if they already have natural immunity present, but they're ignoring that, too.
I trust science, but its hard to "trust the science" when they not only don't have anything solid, but have evidence that contradicts what they're saying
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You're not the brightest.
The CV19 vaccine is an effort on par with the wartime effort. In that many different nations put aside rivalries, and differences to work together on a common goal.
The CV19 vaccine is little different from any other. The main speedup has been the testing and production have taken advantage of current global systems to speed up time to shelf. This means instead of send a sample to different countries to test and wait for data they've ran simultaneous tests and collaborated online instead of offline.
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Just go look at the stock of the pharmaceutical companies who make it and all the politicians who have been buying the stock. It's a great business model the government prints money to buy it from them and then mandates people get it. Then the politicians Get rich off of the stock. You're all being played
1) higher stock value does not lead to higher capital flow to that company itself 2) neither the executive nor legislative branch of the government “print money”
Doesn't matter to the politicians the stock value went up they could sell it at a profit make money doesn't matter anything other than that for them.
Yes technically they don't print money it's actually worse than that. They borrowed money from a private Company called the federal reserve who has the right to just make up money. So they just type into a computer screen a billion dollars and transfer it over to the government who has to pay interest to the federal reserve on the money they just typed into existence. It's literally worse than just printing money everyone knows it's not technically pretty money. It's just what this process is called and people like you just act like it's not true arguing over symmetics
1) Federal Reserve isn’t a private company. 2) the Federal Reserve has the right to conduct open market operations that create money. That said, only a relatively small amount of money is created by the Federal Reserve. Most is by banks.
3) the Federal Reserve doesn’t transfer money to the government.
I have a masters and economics you clearly have no clue. The federal reserve is a private company. It has stock but its private it and it pays a very high dividend. Yes the government gave them the right to do all this even though it's actually against the Constitution. It did this because then it gives them ability to borrow unlimited money from someone who just types into a computer.
Then you just bring up Is fractional reserve banking thinking that just disproves what I'm saying.
It's always funny how little literals understand about economics probably why they think paying people do not work is a good idea
Lol your masters doesn’t really show anything here.
1) the federal reserve isn’t private 2) the government cannot borrow unlimited money 3) the federal reserve doesn’t transfer money to the government 4) fractional reserve banking is literally an essential part of money creation in the economy. The Federal Reserve guides it with reserve requirements. The idea that fractional reserve banking somehow doesn’t align with the Federal Reaerve what I said is utterly preposterous.
Again yes it is private. Yes the government can borrow unlimited money they just need to change their debt ceiling it's literally just whatever they put on paper tell me they could borrow. No it is not essential it's actually a way to steal money from the poor and give it to the rich without you even knowing.
You really don't understand the very basics of economics you fell for their lie to keep you poor. Go ahead and believe what you want doesn't change how it works. It's designed so people like you cheered on as it makes you more poor
1) it really isn’t private 2) nope. The government borrows on capital markets, which have a natural barrier based on creditworthiness. As basically all central banks, the Federal Reserve is only willing to take a limited liability kf government debt, which means the government is far from limited. 3) it literally is essential. Your lack pf understanding shows you don’t really understand the basics of monetary economics and money creation.
It's public It has stock the stock has owners it pays a Dividend.
It unlimited yes they say that but they just change it whenever needed that's the point you're falling for the trick to keep stupid people from not understanding.
It's not essential it's actually against what the father father's waother fathers wanted they understand it destroys your entire country in a few generations transferring all the wealth to a select few elites. You can see this processed happening And you are cheering it on because you are a useful idiot and don't truly understand what's going on. It's pointless you're going to cheer it on don't matter what and then wonder why it happened afterwards
He's just arguing semantics. It's technically not printing money because they don't even need to print it they just type it into a computer and plus they're borrowing it so there's also interest on it. And because it's the federal reserve doing it all it's technically not the government the government is just selling bonds to the federal reserve please serve that they buy by just typing money into a computer and sending it over. Then the government owes that money plus interest.
@tartaarsaus Will you two shut up and go argue in the bar. After you make your initial opinion then don't argue about it. If someone really wants to know they can Google it.
The U. S. Federal Reserve controls the supply of money in the U. S., and when it expands that supply it is often described as "printing money." The job of actually printing currency bills belongs to the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing, but the Fed determines exactly how many new bills are printed each year. When it is said that the Fed is "printing money," the reference is really to the central bank increasing the money supply in the system, such as through quantitative easing (QE), an asset-purchase program. The Fed and "Printing Money" People in the media often talk about the Fed "printing money," especially in the wake of the Great Recession. What they usually mean is the Fed is increasing the supply of money, most controversially through an asset-purchase program described as quantitative easing (QE).
Under this program, the Fed purchased several trillion dollars worth of financial securities, mostly U. S. government bonds, from financial institutions, with the goal of pumping more money into the economy.
Printing Currency The job of actually printing the money that people withdraw from ATMs and banks belongs to the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP), which designs and manufactures all paper money in the U. S. (The U. S. Mint produces all coins.)
However, the amount of currency printed by the BEP each year is determined by the Fed, which then submits an order to the BEP. The Fed then distributes that currency via armored carrier to its 28 cash offices, which then further distributes it to 8,400 banks, savings and loans and credit unions across the country. For the 2020 fiscal year, the Fed's Board of Governors ordered 5.2 billion Federal Reserve notes—the official name of U. S. currency bills—from the BEP, valued at $146.4 billion.
The one i know for certain is that it is a big money maker and that when you go over the barrier of injecting a foreign substance in your body you will likely not resist the government app that now will track everything you do with your access blocked if they want to block you (Which we all should resist and refuse to use vaccine or no vaccine).
A more conspiratorial view is that they are using it as a means to inject conductive chemicals into the body so that later on they have an interface to your brain from an external device. To accomplish this you'd need your blood brain barrier broken (Which is why the PCR test is so insanely long it can go to far up your nose) and they'd need a chemical in your blood stream that is conductive and ends up absorbed into your brain.
It's not that important. It's just a way for Democrats to tell people what to do Peter. They love to tell people to put those masks on where they can't breathe. Their totalitarian hearts. I want to know where there's masks are every winter during the flu when it kills way more people every winter since forever. Liberals are World by The Narrative there's no room for thinking
To hell with you and your propaganda. Does it bother you that the CDC totally lied and then admitted it? Those are doctors right? Are they incapable of lies?
Medical science isn't propaganda. The CDC is learning new things about covid almost daily. They have to watch trends and isolate data, which might change their messaging. If you want to see lies everywhere, it's pretty amazing that you don't see all the holes in the misinformation you are deluded into believing is somehow true.
Sourcing FACT isn't hard, it just takes the ability to drop your bias and accept that you might be wrong instead of doubling down and going into hulk mode when your views are challenged or disproven. Maybe someday you will connect the dots.
It is interesting how the worlds elites are very open and honest about reducing the worlds population to slow or stop climate change, but a relatively mild pandemic (compared to historical) and we need to shut the world down and vaccinate everyone multiple times….. makes you wonder.
your table correlates with timing more than anything else. the more recent the quicker it gets cured
its partly that technology has improved but its also the fact that we have become such cowards that we freak out over small pandemics. the world is wimpy compared to what it used to be so our willingness to suffer has gone down
The progressive left has always pushed for Medicare for all and nationalized pharmaceuticals. "But thats socialism and communists revolution blaw blaw blaw."
We have been saying this for decades. "Why would a socialize health care system be more effective then job appointment insurance?" Maybe when a 100 year epidemic stops people from working, voiding insurance payments.
It’s not about saving lives, it’s about pure absolute obedience to Gubmint, here in the US we all know his majesty biden the brainless is a useless tit head, he has been for over 40 years in politics, utterly worthless, this is his way of saying “ look at me ! I did something”
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You don't know much about Big Pharma... Vaccine profits are practically nothing compared to what they get for new medications. Generic versions are prohibited for the first 10 years a new drug comes to market. During this time, Big Pharma charges a ridiculous amount for that drug. Those profit margins are much higher than the vaccine's. And since there is more than one version of the vaccine, there is competition, which drives the cost down. Your assumption is wrong and you're ill-informed.
I haven't seen low prices on things like was stated - Chemo drugs. There are a few others that only a few make so they can ask what they want. If someone doesn't ant to pay the price they they die.
I don't disagree, but your question was about vaccines, not specialty medication. Big Pharma is only concerned with making money, not improving health.
If you want it so badly just get the procedure done, guaranteed success and prevents the other side effects you might have like bleeding disorders developing within 3 years.
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mRNA technology was researched for 10 years prior to being used for the Covid vaccines. Apparently, you think that anything less than 30 years of research is somehow an indicator that it doesn't work or that it's lethal. You are quite wrong, but don't get vaccinated, and you can find out if the virus works on YOU.
Because empirical evidence shows it mitigates the spread of the virus and decreases the incidence of severe cases. Moreover, we’re talking billions in profit. If government’s really want to manufacture more money flowing to these firms, they can easily do so more and in greater numbers than this. Last, lots of vaccines are being sold at the price of production
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nRNA tech has been around for years, It made the development of the vaccine in six months possible. It has already saved many lives and has allowed us to go back to living a normal life. Yes, big pharma made a killing but it is what it is.
Its been around for a few years sure, it just never managed to pass the animal trials properly and had disastrous long term effects. So lets all take it before we know if they finally got it right this time, then we can all die together if they screwed up.
The problem is that the information is incomplete, this is one of the first mRNA vaccines actually released to market. So it is a new technique that was never properly approved for this before and still is not even properly approved. Not just that, even if we can take the technique as 100% safe (Which it most likely isn't) that would not make these vaccines 100% safe. Because its still producing parts of the virus attributed to the immune system response damage.
After all people are NEVER dying of this disease. They are dying because of an overreaction in their body that kills them. So the last thing you'd want to do is fuel that with an even stronger immune response. Which means that long term we could be seeing mass deaths from this, and people seem to be dying from this if vulnerable in general.
So the video is a bit of a fallacy, they managed to do it so quickly because of existing and easily applied techniques. Alright cool. But that doesn't mean that this vaccine is well tested or safe because the total package with its own designed immune response is brand new and poorly tested. And it also doesn't mean mRNA is safe because it hasn't been proven as such long term yet.
I think yeah you scarily are completely right. I had an argument with a girl two days ago, she was literally spouting government policies word for word, like a good little citizen. And it’s like everyone who asks questions is bad.
Ok, so what's the question? Are you asking about vaccines, or are we talking about immigration? If you can't focus on one topic, then it isn't a question - you are just blurting out your opinions on random things.
I guess you didn't read the question. Everything I have said relates to the question, including illegal immigrations. What have you said that relates to it all?
Ok, I'll admit, I gave a highly trollish response, and I apologize. I'm frustrated with the people who refuse to get vaccinated.
Listen to the medical and professionals, hell.. call your own primary care doctor, and ask him or her what they advise you to do - It's their job to give you the best advice to living healthy and longer.
@BeenThereLovedIt Unless your doctor is in private practice they have to go by Hospital guidelines and they in turn go by what the CDC tells them. You also believe what the government tells you and I don't. No one I know, not family or friends, have had Covid, at least as far as anyone knows. I also think that we, like pregnant women who have the right to abort a life, should have the right to also choose as it is our body. And at this point I don't want anything in my body unless I know for sure it is safe and won't dox you years later with what happened with asbestos and Roundup weed killer where people are now dying from cancer when they were told it was safe.
Yeah sure, the government allowed (and still allows) corporations to poison our environment for the sake of corporate profits (and campaign donations), But...
Doctors and scientists generally follow a different guideline for how they govern their actions, they don't typically have ulterior motives.
The vaccine had incredible oversight and every step of the process has been transparent and documented. Sure, there's a chance that someone lied and there's some agenda, but it's highly unlikely to be realistic. Meanwhile, this delta version of the virus doesn't care about politics - it's far more contagious than the original variant and it is deadlier.
In FL alone, 50 kids per day are being hospitalized for it, and it's rising every day. Texas has no more beds for kids in a 19-county radius.
The choice to not get vaccinated is literally killing children.
There are times to stand up in revolt against the elites, but the medical professionals aren't elites - they are trying to save your life right now. They are trying to protect their own families just like you and I. Now is not the time to assert your rights.
Let's say this virus mutates again, and again, and on the 7th wave next year it's so deadly that 9 out of 10 people who get it are just dead- there's no saving them. Would you take the vaccine then, assuming it would even still be effective?
What I'm asking is: At what point do you question your own judgment and consider that you may be wrong about this?
I marched in 2009 against big pharma. I worked in big pharma back then, I knew what they were putting into the vaccines. The vaccines weren't the problem, it was the additives - which after my group was internationally smeared, tarred, and feathered, we finally won and thermisol was removed from several vaccines.
Yes, but in the case of covid, you have a virus that really wants to kill you, and a vaccine that really wants to save you. Seems like you are caught up on the details and not the big picture. Get it or not, but you should expect society as a whole to exclude you over time. Eventually you will be excluded from society if we can't get this under control.
Lol, you’re wearing a mask because you’re unable to think on your own. Not because someone is unvaccinated. If you believe the CDC, you’re wearing your mask because you vaccinated people can get and transmit the variant
@joeldalton True, if you are vaccinated you won't get it. Or at least you are not supposed to which hasn't been the case. So why do people get pissed if someone doesn't get vaccinated. It's no sweat off their balls if the unvaccinated get it.
It doesn't work that way, although I am beginning to think that there is an unknown variant of it that makes people immune to reason. Pay attention:
1. Even if you have actually had Covid before, that does not make you immune to it a second time, much as you wish it would.
2. People who are fully vaccinated can still catch it from others, although it might not be as severe, *except* even some vaccinated people have been hospitalized and a few have died.
3. Listen to your doctor and the CDC and stop paying attention to youtube videos and the anti-vaxers on here.
@msc545 Here’s the problem for you lunatics. You reject natural immunity. You admit that the vaccines won’t make you immune. Therefore, your choices are either to wear a mask for the rest of your life or live your life normally. Vaccine status doesn’t matter, lockdowns are useless because the virus will never go away. You’ve doomered so far that you’ve moved back to normalcy. Congratulations.
@joeldalton Calling people names is not productive or conducive to rational discussion, which perhaps you don't want. I didn't "reject" natural immunity, I merely made note of the fact that it is a very unreliable means of protecting oneself, since the antibodies created by catching Covid and surviving it are possibly far less rigorous than those created by vaccines. Here:
I realize that you think that your "common sense" is superior to studies done by people who actually understand these problems, but if you can move away from that position just a bit, you can actually gain some real, useful knowledge. None of this is a challenge to your manhood but simply an attempt to help you.
So your statement is incorrect. If vaccine immunity was more robust, then you wouldn’t be putting masks back on, would you? It’s only because the vaccinated are spreading the disease that the CDC wanted you all wearing masks.
They would require that of you either way, otherwise why would you need to put it on if you are vaccinated? The masks are about control, they are merely using the vaccinated as a scape goat. Don't like the mask? Don't put it on. If you have faith in the vaccine you do not need to be affraid. If you are skeptical of the vaccine you also don't need to be affraid if you take some zinc and vitamin D supplements to boost your immune system. Its a fully treatable disease.
@sawno where I am there is a mandate for anyone entering public buildings like Grocery stores or office buildings. My work requires me to go places that I have to wear a mask in. The Mandate is because of the number of unvaccinated people spreading this variant.
@joeldalton No, it's because they rushed out a vaccine that was dard ass instead of good without the full trials required by the FDA. The vaccine is not actually approved. Therefore it may work differently with every person as it has been shown not to be 100% effective and probably a whole lot less than claimed.
What price you should be paid if someone wanted you to take something that could kill you is a better question. This is not about cost, its about health. Young people on this side have a 0,02% chance of dying from the disease unvaccinated. And have a 0,02% chance of dying double vaccinated. Infact that statistic also applies to you since your under 50. It does literally nothing good for you.
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