It's hard to feel sympathy considering his lies probably led to people being hospitalized or dying.But at least he stuck it to the libs and didn't let them tell him what to do.
The jab IS Delta. Thinking those who created the disease are your salvation from it, with thousands dead in Europe proving the opposite to be true, is folly. So is dancing on the grave of a martyr who resisted tyranny.
Tyrants will always kill two types of victims: random suckers who obeyed them and groveled at their feet, for belonging to a background the tyrant hates, are the first to be killed at random. The second to die, are those who choose obedience to God over obedience to tyrants, and resist tyranny.
The only difference this time, is that the tyrants chose a bioweapon, knowing that bioweapons have massive potential for collateral damage. But unlike a nuke, don't cause immediate massive property damage.
Yet, their "cure" is no cure at all. Actual cures, they try to ban from pharmacies, to make sure that you die faster. Instead of dancing on Bernier's grave, you had a responsibility from the Beyond to join those who would put the creators of these bioweapons into a grave, after a brutal public hanging. You will not be found blameless for your attitude of contempt.
You also owe an apology to those denied access to ClO2, Ivermectin, and HCQ, all because Big Pharma wants to put witchcraft in your veins. You deny their plight.
@msc545 : Still using that pathetic misquote from MS-LSD? When Trump said "disinfectant," he wasn't talking over-the-counter cleaning products. He was talking about the antibacterial properties of UVBI. At no point was he encouraging anyone to drink Lysol.
What happened there, was a woman tried to poison her husband with Lysol, in a typical black widow scheme. When cornered, she tried to claim that it was his idea. This didn't work out.
From there, the Rachael Mad Cows went to work, trying to tie the black widow's scheme to Trump's speech by way of the flimsiest of grounds. This worst-than-tabloid garbage was then paraded by leftist menstrual rags like Mother Jones as gospel truth. And the NPCs fell for it.
My personal experiancies of therapy, psychology & psychiatry are so bad that I cannot trust anyone or anything related to their products and services.
My personal experiances with fysiotherapists, dentists & doctors that perform surgeries have always been good enough for me to be greatful for their products & services. This is the very reason I took the vacine.
The personal experiances of my friend, are so bad with mental health professionals that he has completely lost his trust in the entire healthcare system. His personal experiances with side effects of varios different meds has made sure he will never trust any med companies ever again.
Neither of us can no longer trust politics or polititions of any kind in any country. I feel sorry for all those followers of anti-vaxx polititions who have died and mislead. I also feel worried over all those who refuse vaccine for their loss of trust in the entire industry.
Bro y’all need to chill out… What has humanity turned into? I personally I have gotten COVID-19 twice and then I’ve gotten delta as well. I was fine. It hit me a little hard due to the fact that I have asthma. But in the end, It depends honestly on each person’s individual Heath, and their underlying conditions. Just because he ended dying due to COVID it just a ironic tragic event. Because even if he got vaccinated he easily could’ve gotten Delta and again the same issue. It is not our place to be judging another person’s choice. That being said some people can’t get certain vaccines due to how their bodies react to it. For example, I get vaccinated for a most things. However, I make a few exceptions such as the flu shot. The only time I got flu shot I ended up getting the flu and it escalated to the point of hospitalization. All years prior I had never gotten a flu shot and never got the flu. And I haven’t gotten the flu in any of the other seasons since I’ve chosen not to get a flu shot.
@Joyinmotion No, it doesn't make sense because if he was vaccinated, his odds of dying would be near zero. braybray is a rambling idiot who is turning a public health issue into a political one.
How did I make this Political? Just out of curiosity? I just simply said that sometimes certain people can’t get certain vaccines bc of how their bodies react to them.
It is sad that their families will lose them (I'm assuming their families aren't secretly happy they're dead, but given who and how they are there's a good chance there's many who will in fact love being rid of them), but it's ultimately for the greater good.
And hey, they died doing what they loved, owning the libs. So hats off to 'em, they did what they wanted.
And hey, if more anti-vaxxers wanna go ahead and die, I'm all for it. I just wish they wouldn't take people who can't get the vaccine for legitimate reasons with em (some folks with immune disorders or other health concerns can't take vaccines, and thus rely on herd immunity, which isn't happening).
But yeah. Totally owned the Libs there, buddy. The rest of you hang in there till you die and you, too, can stick it to the libs.
It is my opinion that if someone is a COVID denier, they should not receive priority treatment.
They elected to get sick. They don't believe they are sick with what is killing them.
Let their "thoughts and prayers" save them, and let the healthcare system be for those who actually want it.
Of course, this is not practical, nor would it uphold the Hippocratic oath.
So tax the billionaires who became trillionaires during the pandemic, and ban corporate bailouts (if you're not able to keep your multinational corporation afloat it should fail - no company is "too big to fail"). Use the money to pay for more hospitals.
It is definitely a tragedy that good, sensible (vaccinated) people are dying of things that wouldn't otherwise kill them because anti-vaxxers are too stupid to recognize their own impact.
I say again: if a COVID denier is hospitalized they should not receive priority treatment.
I don't care. I think getting a shot that will keep you sick for life on the S1 spike protein and doing it because assholes on the internet peer pressure you into making yourself sick for life, is worse than dying from a disease that has a 0.5% death rate. It'd like saying, "What do you think of the guy who got mauled by a tiger because he wouldn't drink bleach like the rest of us?"
And in case you haven't remembered, the vaccine isn't stopping cases of COVID regardless. Not taking something unsafe that pharmaceutical companies are bribing politicians and talk show hosts like Stephen Colbert to push doesn't make you an "anti-vaxxer," though I like how the left tries to push that strawman.
I think you'd have to be a real petty piece of shit to celebrate someone's death because they didn't do what you wanted them to do. Even IF the vaccine was safe (it's not) and even IF it stopped COVID (it didn't), laughing at someone for being cautious and skeptical about something makes you the bigger piece of shit, here.
That low death rate didn't stop millions of deaths so far and many other life long side effects for survivors.
The vaccine has prevent new cases. You can catch it but its symptoms are very minimized if you are vaccinated. That means the vaccinated host will suffer less, have a higher chance of surviving with no life long problems and less likely to transmit it.
I agree that any death is bad and should not be celebrated. But they have some responsibility on their fate.
Now I want to know why do you think the vaccines are not safe. Literally every piece of data from countries around the world is proving that it is safe and works. On my country alone is estimated to have saved 20 thousand lives. Every major health organization has approved it. Even every national health agencies gave it green light. What kind of conspiracy theory do you think it's going on to every single government in the world to be on board?
So you believe that health professionals, from all across the world are all wrong? Every country makes its own decisions regarding the pandemic and they all have nation health organizations with professionals who give their take to the government on how to proceed. To you, all of them, are wrong. I mean the guy on that video is right. On him you believe.
I can clear that for you. My country, Portugal, is making itself a vaccine. And it's not the only one. So many do have information and possiblity to make vaccines.
I don't know how it works in the US, but in the UN each country is responsible for the security measures their population takes and they use their medical professionals as advisers on that. So yes lots and lots of medical professionals have a big role on what is done about the covid.
The WHO analyzed all vaccines before giving them gree light. And for example Astrazenica was under serious questioning. I believe the work the National and International organizations made at verifying the safety of the vaccines. And even if I didn't the results their implementation is having would be proof enough.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 save your time with this dumbass. he does nothing but spread lies and propaganda about the vaccine. even his mother told him he was a worthless piece of shit and she was right.
These people remind me of the foolish liberals who were anti-vaccination because they falsely believed that the Measles vaccination was causing Autism. Cut from the opposite ends of the same cloth. They followed "Dr." Andrew Wakefield and celebrities like Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy into a Measles renaissance. These people have been quiet for years (although I've noticed that Wakefield himself has resurfaced recently, and has been more active than in recent years, trying to merge the two anti-vaccination ideologies together). However, if you Google "Autism Measles", you'll find many others from that debunked argument and era. Now we not only have people in rural areas of the country that are not getting vaccinated (which is covered by the national media ad nauseum), but we also have many people who reside inner cities across the country that are not getting vaccinated (which is hardly covered by the national media). It's on the local news all the time, and for that, I give them credit. The number of those who remain unvaccinated in the inner cities outnumber those who remain unvaccinated in the rural areas, and I doubt those that are unvaccinated in large cities identify as conservatives or Republicans. It's an issue that's not getting enough national attention.
The bottom line is this: Even though we can't have forced compliance, and it's an individual's choice, getting vaccinated is a good idea, regardless of political leanings or ideology. You can't piss off stupid big government people if you're dead.
Let’s also remind you of the high and mighty Democratic Party you have a child molester as president, multiple politicians refuse to follow their own mandates, and continue to break constitutional law with many of their mandates… ignoring everything else like Afghanistan are you really going to take this road because your parties full of idiots… also if you died in a car crash tomorrow I’m sure your family would love seeing people laugh at your death and talk shit about your life.
Disrespectful waste of oxygen. Both your words and your life.
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Your link is from May, 2020 and looks only total deaths, not deaths per capita.
But when we get past your failed and pathetic attempt to lie and look at more recent stats of death per capita (the correct way to view death stats), we see a mix of red and blue states with the highest death rate per capita. www.statista.com/.../
Everything else you said is the ramblings of a disgruntled, blathering, idiot.
Anti-vaxxers get what they ask for. Though I don’t blame minorities for not getting vaccinated due to lack of trust with the government because of Tuskegee Experiment and other instances. The white anti-vaxxers are just ignorant at the highest degree. Though when they do succumb to a serious case of COVID they’re rushed to the hospital and instantly regret their decisions and filling up hospitals. Meanwhile vaccinated people who need to be in the hospital for a legit medical reason are turned away. This is why I think anti-vaxxers with COVID and for COVID need to be turned away from the emergency room.
I feel sorry for them. I’m not a grave-dancer. I’m of the opinion that it’s foolish to not get vaccinated, or at least to make that decision based on the information sources I see a lot of these people oddly relying on. But I feel bad for misguided people, I don’t think they’re misguided because they’re bad people with bad intentions, I think it’s unfortunate that they were led down a path of misinformation, probably long before Covid hit, but just in their general attitude. But it’s always sad when someone loses their life, regardless of whether or not they played a part in their own demise.
I am not going to dance on his grave. I just don't understand what happened to American society. This kind of stuff happened in the dark ages. I mean, these people are dying when the folks on the news and in politics are all vaxxed and all masked up. And even if they get sick, they get access to therapies normal folks like us will never get.
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He spread lies about a safe and effective vaccine that probably led to others being hospitalized or dying. He was a piece of shit and got what he deserved.
I agree that the politicians and talk show hosts who promote this stuff are pieces of shit. He was just naive and gullible. Gov. Abbott contracted Covid. I bet he didn't take some regeneron and invermectin. I bet he got the best care available. The Fox News staff? They are all vaccinated.
Yet they promote this stuff for the political benefits and look the other way as people die.
Shit happens, he lived free, he died free on his terms, living and dying by his choices, that how you really live, not by being on your knees sucking government dick, begging for help, begging to be told what to do. Man up, grab your balls, unless your mommy has them in her purse, and fucking live life.
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Yep, not getting a shot that would've saved his life is a cause worth dying for. 🙄
You tell em' man. I bet you would've been man enough to refused the smallpox and polio vaccine cuz fuck them scientists trying to help people survive. FREEDOM!!!
At least he died a free man and chose not to get the shot under his own free will and went under his terms.
I dont want to be forced, I want choice. If I dont want it, fine leave it at that. Thats my choice, not your choice or the goverment to make it for me.
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His refusal to get a vaccine was based on lies, paranoia, and conspiracy theories, not science, facts, or reason. That doesn't make him a martyr making a stand, it makes him a fucking idiot.
I stand by my words. I refusal to get it, because I was raised without never being vax. I never had of shot of any kind of vax. My father, his father, my kids and now my grandkids. None of us never had any kind of vaccines.
We believe God has choosen our path of life. We dont want the devils poison in our vains.
You would not believe me if I told you. See we are a group of people who follow the teachings of Jacob Ammann and have simple customs and refuse to take oaths, vote, or perform military service
@FoghornLeghorn99 Anyone who supports Trump doesn't know a thing about him, or his family. I do. Mine worked with them. If you or ANY of the millions who "support him" ever did, you'd never sing his praises again. E V E R. He's the living epitome of a narcissist douche bag. All those "college educated Trumpers" who can't see that have wasted their money on college.
@FoghornLeghorn99 Jimmy Carter, but that's irrelevant. Trump is not a decent man. I find it even more hilarious that his minions booed him for telling them to get the vaccine !! LOL Talk about confused followers, huh?
@FoghornLeghorn99 Unfortunately, he's still being worshiped by idiot Congressional leaders, and their decisions affect everyone in the USA. They're more worrisome than the douche bag.
Aren't you the same dork that said that your whole family were Republicans, including yourself, but then when the Republicans voted against a Covid relief bill that would give 90% of the money to foreign countries you changed your mind and became a Democrat?
Yeah, the Republicans wanted YOU to get all the money, but you rednecks weren't smart enough to figure that out.
@Darksign I'm not a Biden supporter, but the fact is, Trump was far more corrupt, as were his cohorts. It amazes me that some people actually think corruption is only found in the political party they don't like. LMAO.
@katiesmuff if there the case then you should be 100% against the Biden vaccine mandate. After all it would kill swaths of conservatives and that’s what you want right?
@loveslongnails newsflash. The vast majority of educated conservatives who voted for Trump KNOW he is a scumbag. But at least he isn’t a hypocrite. The reason we voted for him is because WE HATE THE RADICAL LEFT which Biden is now pushing.
For example with this vaccine mandate. Nothing has ever been done like this in US history. I noticed the Democrats are weaponizing corporate America to harm conservatives is ways they couldn’t earlier (but also ironically minorities have the lowest rates of vaccination). But if you are crossing the border illegally or work for the post office you get an exemption.
You people want a war then you will get it. I really would prefer a level headed non radical president for once. But the days of Clintonian politics are long over. Democrats are inching closer and closer to communism and FUCK that. I’ll do all I can including violence before seeing the USA become a communist country.
@backblueblack22 I seriously doubt the "vast majority" knew anything about just how MUCH of a scumbag he was, and is. He got voted in because people were tired of "politics as usual", aka, Hilary and somehow believed that a scumbag of another sort would be better. What we got was a different "kind" of stupid, and instead of "draining the swamp" and replacing it with honorable people, he put in his own criminals and made a different swamp - but a swamp nonetheless.
I was with you for a while until you flew off on the whole Communism thing. Usually its socialism, but for you it was Commies. Talk about a tempest in a tea cup. There will never, ever be Communism in the USA. Why? Because it doesn't matter WHO is in power, it takes a shit ton of money to get there, stay there and maintain the capitalist status quo. The "left" is no less interested in capitalism than the right, but the right has a better propaganda machine for spreading the myth that they are. At best, they're willing to throw more crumbs. There's as much chance that the US would go Commie as the Cubs winning the World Series and the Bears winning the Super Bowl all in the same year. LMAO.
@loveslongnails so it’s okay for woke generals (Mark Miley) to call fucking China and tell them we might attack in advanced just because he’s got Trump Derangement Syndrome?
Trump was wrong about election fraud. I’ll give you that. He did tell his supporters to protest peacefully but he also rose the temperature.
I never said Trump was no Boy Scout but if you compare him to what Biden is doing has done then hands down it’s obvious who really loves this country.
Also I didn’t start using the label “communist” until the squad took things to a whole another label. I’ve met leftists on GAG who openly identify as communist. The phrase “socialist” is now becoming a euphemism.
@backblueblack22 Let me tell you something about Trump. My family worked with his family in NYC, and with his daddy Fred. Donald doesn't give a shit about anything but Donald, and money. Never ever has, never ever will. This country means nothing to him but a place to make money with bankruptcy laws that favor the corporation, which he used gleefully more than 4 times. The USA is just bankroll, much like it was for Cheney. When he rolls out the flag, I just want to puke.
I'll bet a few people will say something like "how can you disrespect the dead like this", but also be in favour of capital punishment for people who kill, possibly even people who damage property or block roads.
I have no sympathy for them. Some for the people who they left behind (one had 3 small children and one on the way, iirc).
They championed the right to not be protected from the virus and the virus did them in. I’m not happy about that but I also don’t feel sorry for them. They gambled and lost.
I think its really fucked up how the media seems to celebrate when someone who they disagrees with dies.
I do have one question though, since I don't listen to any of these three. Are they against vaccines in general, the covid vaccine specifically or the vaccine mandates? There's a huge difference between the three yet they all get filed under the same label.
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I highly doubt they gave a shit at all about vaccines before it became a right wing political issue.
Aren't black people like 98% democrats? And aren't balck people among the lowest, if not the actual lowest, in vaccination rates?
I'm not throwing shade on black people, nor am I criticizing the choice to not be vaccinated, but I don't think the perspective that the unvaccinated can solely be attributed to Trump supporters. For one example, my whole family voted Trump and we're all vaccinated.
Quit trying to blame blacks for the low vaccination rate among trailer trash in red states. The vaccination rate among whites is 50% and 40% among blacks. Citing a few family members doesn't mean shit. www.kff.org/.../
If you think I was trying to "blame blacks" for low vaccination rates, you're illiterate, cognitively incompetent, or content with a faulty argument in a desperate attempt to try and discredit people you don't like.
This was caused by the left. Trying to pressure and convince sombody to take a vacine instead of just minding your own business makes them defensive and hostile to the idea. Censoring critcis, arresting doctors, shuting down debate, forcing your opinion and labiling the truth as missinformation makes people feel like the sicentifc method has not properly been apliled to the vaciine. And that the potesial side effects are hidden.
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This was caused by the right, including assholes like marc bernier who peddled lies about a safe vaccine to create fear and mistrust among a base of retards like you.
It's very ironic. The disease they didn't believe in killed them. I feel sorry for their families, their deaths could have been avoided.
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I think it proves Darwin correct-it may be how the nation is saved-the pandemic kills the rufusers (who are for the most part arch right MAGA types) thus also removing them from both the voting and gene pool, ending the divisions they have caused
I’m conservative and I was NEVER an “anti vaxxer”. I got the vaccine myself 5 months ago.
My only issue is forcing people especially extremely low risk people (teenagers) to vaccinate. It’s one thing if you present the data, risks and options. Quite another to have an authoritarian attitude about it.
I find it funny. Respect, they stuck to their guns until the end, but it's still a pity. It's not worth losing your life over.
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Less than 2% of those who have gotten covid have died from it. The other 98% survived. Of those 2%, half or 3/4, are people over 50. And of those over 50, they are people with pre-existing conditions. So a) he could have had pre-existing conditions. b) his case was rare. c) they could have passed from something else and caught covid on the way out.
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I bet these talk show hosts peddled the same statistics in an attempt to dismiss covid as harmless before dying of covid.
These are literally the statistics on the CDC website... the same one everyone has access to lol. Lmao you all are really dumb. But I forget, the left isn't all about the facts, just feelings.
This is the funniest thing on the planet to me. Tell them facts from the CDC and they still call you an idiot all while keep spouting, “trust the science”. How much more scientific can I get when I am looking at information from the CDC itself? It’s seriously mind boggling. Keep watching your news man. It’s truly serving you…
@PinkGraffiti I'm calling you an idiot because you're implying it's nothing to worry about and ignorant of the fact that talk show host Phil Valentine made the same argument you're making and still died of covid. www.independent.co.uk/.../...-farrel-b1911351.html
The cdc also recommends getting vaccinated and masking but you just ignore that and cherry pick what you want to believe don't you?
Idiots like probably though their odds of dying in a car or motorcycle accident are low, so why bother wearing a seatbelt or helmet.
I mean... antivaxxers have pissed me off to where I think this shit is funny now.
But let's not pretend there aren't millions of leftists who won't get it too. Last time I checked NY still had 40% of the population unvaccinated and it's not exactly Trump country up there... and they already had an abnormally high death-toll.
Perhaps you're right. Part of me doesn't blame them though, since the leftist establishment has been engaging in gaslighting for quite some time now.
Only reason I believe in the vaccine is because I study a related field and I know the science behind vaccines. If I didn't and ol' Bidey'Boo personally told me to get the vaccine, I'd tell him to do to me what that hooker did to his crackhead son.
If you take the word conservative out of the equation, I think ANYONE dying from a virus when they could have easily been given a free vaccination should qualify for a Darwin Award!
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So in proper leftist double Standard fashion you're actually mocking a man's death. A death caused by a virus that comes from your beloved parent nation "China"
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I'm mocking the death of an asshole who put others lives in jeopardy by spreading lies about a safe and effective vaccine, then got what he deserved.
That you want to turn someone who unintentionally died from a disease that could've been prevented by a simple shot into a martyr taking a stand for freedom shows just how insane the riech wing is.
which last thought of his do you think was more likely: I'm taking a stand for the freedom to die of a disease that's preventable. or I should've gotten the vaccine then i'd be alive.
There's nothing wrong with chosing to take the vaccine. But the keyword is chosing. Forcing people to take it by holding their lives hostage until they do is what's wrong. Trust me if it was completely optional everyone would come around to take it, just like smartphones. No one forced us to own them and yet we all do. My problem is that a man died and you make it sound like he deserved death for chosing not to take the vaccine which means in your eyes he never had freedom, either get vaccinated or die
I don't see what being conservative has to do with it. I know people with both liberal and conservative views that don't want to take it. That's the only issue here to me is that again politics are thrown into a topic that it has no reason to be apart of.
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Anti vaxxers are overwhelming conservatives and it's they who've politicized and spread lies and conspiracy theories about vaccines. Quit trying to whitewash it by try to spread blame to everyone.
Ah I love this. You ask a question, I post an opinion that is not even a statement. And now you ask for proof. Proof of what? Proof I have an opinion? Proof that I asked a question? This is all people with your mindset can ever do. Complain and deny. You shut everything out and for what? As I said I never made a factual statement towards anything. I'm done with this silly argument. Continue to live a sad life of pointless offense.
You're saying that there are liberal anti-vaxxers to in an attempt to deflect blame from conservative without offering any evidence. Instead you're posing speculative questions and I'm calling you out on your bullshit and asking you not to speculate but to prove your implied claim. You know exactly what you're doing and you're full of shit.
First of all, the Covid shot isn’t a vaccine. Second of all most people calling people that refuse the Covid shot “anti-vaxers” have no right to be able to communicate openly in the world.
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and he probably caught the virus from a fucking vaccinated, mask wearing sheep, since the science you want us all to believe so dearly, has said that vaccinated people are still catching and spreading the virus.
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So the people smart enough to get protected from covid with the vaccine are the ones spreading it to the ones too stupid to get the vaccine. Brilliant logic.
Never mind that if he got the vaccine, he'd likely still be alive. omfg, you're stupid.
It is their choice , which is America , not China where you belong. They probably had other factors that really killed them. I don't know them. So couldn't be too conservative.
At least he had a longer life than Simone Scott a 19-year-old college freshman who underwent a heart transplant one month after developing what her doctors believe was myocarditis following her second dose of Moderna...
It's not like they weren't warned yet they still chose to stick their head in the sand. Isn't this a form of evolution though? The dumb systematically offing themselves because of their own stupidity?
I'm wondering why public health has been so politicized by leftists that they gleefully track these things based on ideology. Adults need to make their own decisions.
The right has spent the past year or more spreading lies, conspiracy theories, peddling fake cures and horse de-wormer, denying cdc recommended public health measures because wearing a mask for 20 minutes in the store violates your precious freedoms, demonizing public health officials, and you say the left is politicizing this? LMAO, are you fucking kidding? You're a fucking joke.
Thanks for proving my point. You’re so brave to go anonymous, by the way.
But leftists never lie and pursue an ideological agenda, correct? What Are you doing right now? What have leftists been doing since the beginning of COVID lady year? Biden and Harris originally didn’t want to trust “ The Trump Vaccine”, for example.
So what do we take from your comments? You’re a Communist ideologue who wants to control everything under the guise of “public health”, “ climate change”, “systemic racism”, etc.
@archerer- your straw man is going to burn you. And you’re cut from the same cloth as this coward anonymous asker.
Asker, you've done nothing of the sort- the lies and hypocrisy are obviously totally on your side. What you are actually doing is joyfully celebrating the death of a political opponent and childishly using it to score some political points. All I have said is that we should not politicize this public health matter as you and others have done. And no one is naive enough to believe you actually care about the safety and well-being of your political opponents- we all know how much you hate them.
@archerer: if that's the case, I'm sure you're celebrating as well. Maybe you need totalitarians to control every aspect of your life. Most of us don't want that. But given that a lot of people have and will lose their lives in Afghanistan due to the deliberate actions of the Biden Administration, it isn't a good idea to blindly trust ideologues.
People who actually care about public health don't politicize it- they put the best information out there they can and let people process it. But it doesn't help when your chief spokesperson won't come clean on his previous actions regarding gain-of-function research and constantly changes his messaging.
Yes, I also celebrated when my dictator of my native land was assassinated, why is that childish? It’s our future we are fighting for, of course I’d rather piece of shit politicians die. And I’d celebrate it every time. Not all life is equal, and you agree.
one person pointing out the stupidity of anti-vaxxers is hardly scoring political points.
The bottom inescapable line is it's the reich wing who politicized a pandemic by spreading lies and conspiracy theories about vaccines, peddling fake cures, attacking public health measures, and demonizing public health officials.
but i can see how a trumptard who lives in a delusional alternate reality that accuses the other side of the very thing they're guilty of would think that.
Asker, you're so blind you can't even see that your own comments are a conspiracy theory yourself. No wonder you went anonymous. And, yes, you've politicized it time and again by making an issue of what you assume is the political orientation of those commenting on the vaccine and masks.
In a free society, there will be disagreements and people will comment on matters of importance to the general public (since when are government officials immune from criticism or disagreement?). You obviously hate that and are desperate to try to shut down any debate by labeling those who disagree with you as "Nazis". You are simply too immature to be taken seriously. and, unsurprisingly, don't discuss facts- you merely spew hate and set up some false monolith that doesn't exist. And no one is infallible with complete omniscience, especially not some childish anonymous troll who thinks he's scoring political points by acting like an eight year old.
CDC and Fauci guidance has ranged widely on masks. People notice the inconsistency and they know that members of the government lie frequently. Rather than insulting them as "Nazis" and claiming they're "delusional" and appealing to authority, maybe you should explain why you think CDC/Fauci and other guidance is accurate.
@archerer, you're all attitude with nothing to back it up- the perfect useful idiot along with your anon clown friend.
@Archerer: And there you go once again arguing against some strawman caricature, just like the useful idiot I pointed out you are. Nothing to back it up, as usual. But you're obedient and love to feel superior to those who don't loudly march lockstep. Hitler loved people like you.
everything i said about the right wing's pollicization of this by spreading lies and conspiracy theories about vaccines, peddling fake cures, attacking public health measures, and demonizing public health officials is a fact. none of which you've disputed. how is anything i said a conspiracy theory?
so calling right wingers out on their politicization of a pandemic is politicizing it? lol wtf? anti-vaxxers are overwhelmingly conservative and trump supporters so no assumption about political ideology is being made. www.forbes.com/.../?sh=2657d5554947
a pandemic is a public health issue, not a political one. and your very statements in your second paragraph are politicizing the issue and you're too blind to see that. lol.
you've yet to state a single fact about anything. You've done nothing but whine, peddle alternate reality nonsense, and accuse the other side of the very thing the right is guilty of.
So your entire distrust of science is based on a flip flop on the mask issue? scientific opinion changing as new facts of an evolving situation develop is nothing new and hardly grounds for peddling conspiracy theories and total distrust of the scientific and medical community. meanwhile trump told 30,000 verifiable lies yet you probably believe every word he says.
You're not too smart are you? Questioning government is not necessarily politicizing a topic. They're questioning statements by government officials and I'm trying to explain to you why I think they're questioning it. The CDC/Fauci messaging has been inconsistent. Is it a politicization t notice that? Do you believe everything that a government official says?
My personal view is that you try to look at various sources and come up with a conclusion. No one will agree on a given topic, yet you think it's some crime against humanity to question your supposed monopoly on the truth.
but the right isn't just questioning public health officials. They're demonizing them, lying, and peddling conspiracy theories.
to prove that, here's alex jones calling fauci and bill gates murderers, "demons", "joseph mengala" and referring to the vaccine as a "bio-weapon" and "poison". you're really going to tell me this is mere questioning of public health officials because of a flip flop on the mask question? please. this is outright lies, conspiracy theories, and hate mongering. twitter.com/.../1433953302618718209
I’m smart enough to know you don’t care about facts, that’s why I don’t even bother, just here for entertainment. The irony in everything you say is fascinating and invigorating. It’s a spectacle to hear your thoughts and the entertainment value is through the roof. I can’t teach you anything and you sure as hell can’t teach me anything, for two totally different reasons.
Asker, Alex Jones speaks for himself and no one else. But from what I saw on that excerpt you linked to he criticized Fauci and Gates for their publicly-stated positions and leftists in general for going after Joe Rogan for taking Ivermectin, calling him "stupid". Jones is a media personality, and this is what he does (a lot of hyperbole included). You seem to think that anything Fauci says must be accepted as gospel without comment or criticism and that just isn't how the world works. That isn't politicizing it, which is exactly what you and other leftists have done numerous times.
Again. there will always be people who disagree with Fauci. That doesn't make them the evil reprobates you think they are for not sharing your politics, and that is the underlying issue here- as your repeated questions here on GAG make clear, you hate your political opponents. It's not that they use their constitutional right to criticize a public figure, because if someone is a public figure, they'd better be used to criticism- it comes with the territory.
And we still haven't forgotten how when the vaccine was "The Trump Vaccine", Biden and Harris didn't trust it. THAT was playing politics. Biden should have credited Trump for his role in having it developed and worked on distribution and getting info about it out there.
Don't start whining about hatemongering- we've seen tons of that from you on this and other rants disguised as questions.
@Archerer: You're both dumb and arrogant, which is a lethal combination when it comes to explaining things to you. You don't have a monopoly on truth (no one does) and you need to learn that there are going to be differing opinions and perspectives. If you don't learn that, you're going to continue to discredit yourself. And facts, and more important, their interpretation, aren't limited to what you want to cherry pick to support your attitude (you aren't coherent enough to have aw well-defined agenda).
@Archerer: And you can't "school" anyone on anything if you haven't put your own analysis into it, e. g., interpreting data and facts. Parroting someone else isn't that. You're a parrot, and it shows.
How unoriginal, I was hoping for something better from you. I haven’t parroted anything at all, wasn’t it your first argument that I don’t back anything up? How can I both not say anything but at the same time be parroting someone else’s opinion? But it’s what you’ve been trained to say to retaliate… it’s a sad form of denial to be honest. Oh and of course, the irony that you can’t see you are talking about yourself 👌
alex jones is indicative of right wing propagandists from fox news to OAN all of whom demonize fauci and whose audience of lemmings agrees. Jones called fauci a "murderer", "demon" and referred to him as "joseph mengala" and you want to white wash his statements as mere entertainment. is it any wonder fauci and his family have received death threats and have 24/7 federal marshal protection. quit acting like this is a minor distrust issue due to flip flopping on masks. it goes well beyond that.
i didn't say a single thing about agreeing with fauci. you on the other hand based your anti vaccine and anti science stance on him flip flopping on masks, which is just idiotic.
considering only 10% biden voters say the won't get vaccinated, clearly no one gives a shit what biden or harris said about the vaccine. meanwhile you ignore the right's spreading of lies and conspiracy theories about vaccines, peddling fake cures, attacking public health measures, and demonizing public health officials in a really lame, failed attempt to blame the left for the right's politicization of a pandemic. www.forbes.com/.../?sh=2657d5554947
Can you cite comments by me which are anti-vaccine/anti-science to back up your claim? If you can't, you will have to admit you have spread lies.
And please don't make me laugh about propaganda claims- that is nonstop from the Democratic Party's media arm and blowhards like you. You have politicized this and I don't have time to run down every one of your claims and assumptions. Fauci is a public figure, and unfortunately they do sometimes get death threats, but you've merely assumed that Jones' comments caused them. And you don't want to address what Fauci has said, which is a crucial part of the story. Has Fauci done everything right? Has he fully addressed his role in the gain-of-function research?
You clearly can't discuss facts. But you're really good at propaganda and blood libels. You're a good leftist totalitarian wannabee.
@archerer: it's not my fault you're a lemming. Talk about unoriginal.
You do know there are antivaxers on both sides don't you? Or are you too stupid to do some research.. I bet you are..
And before you say something stupid.. I'm fully vaccinated. Being antivax is not a conservative thing.. Nect time you want to bash someone think about how stupid it will make you look.
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And for the record, I'm anti FORCED vaccination.. I got vaccinated because it was my choice.. The government should not have that kind of power over anyone... Period. And I'm a liberal that says that.. Not a worthless leftist like you.
Name a left wing anti vaxxer talk show host or reporter who's spreading lies about the vaccine. I'll wait.
And anti vaxxers are overwhelmingly conservative and trump supporters. Maybe should have some facts to support your bullshit so you don't look like the fucking idiot you are.
The following shows that there are just as many on the left as the right.. But hey i can search google and find anything i want to support my side.. But you're too stupid to understand that aren't you.
In 2015, the Pew Research Center conducted a survey of 2 thousand adults which concluded about 12 percent of liberals and 10 percent of conservatives believed that childhood vaccines are unsafe.
How noble for you to try to change their minds. You know that they will still come after you in the civil war but yet you keep trying to save their live. God bless you
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Who's trying to change anyone's mind? Anti-vaxxers are fucking morons who've vaccinated themselves against logic and reason.
I don't know what do you think of the 13 year old boy who died from heart complications after he took the vaccine for a disease that offers very little risk to 13 year olds? 🤡
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3000 people die from aspirin every year and you mention 1 person out of 2.12 billion who've been vaccinated without a source. please.
Also tell the over 8000 vaccine death how helpful that vaccine was. This vaccine has killed more people than every other vaccine during the last 15 years.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yeah i know. they estimate a lot of shit if it's about selling a drug. i know how they are measuring covid deaths different than vaccine deaths.
for example: if you get mangled by a train and they take a pcr test on your splattered corpse and find you to be pcr positive, you will be counted as covid death (which is why this "pandemic" is so overblown). meanwhile, if you die of a horrible thrombosis or a coronary vessel inflammation which was caused by the vaccine, you are still not counted as a vaccine death.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 it's almost like politics are ordering scientists not to look. and they silence those that actually looked and came to different conclusions. for example the ivermectin study is now published and proven to heal corona. do you see any of that in the media? i don't. i only see vaccination propaganda... and that for a "imergency permission" vaccine that has no long term studies whatsoever. it's funny that people don't care about long term when it's about a medicine even though we have so many historical precidents for that fucking us up. just think of the thalidomide desaster or the rushed swine flu vaccinations that ended up harming more people than the swine flu itself.
being anti vaxx is different. there are very good vaccinations out there. like that for polio, rabies tetanus and more. so calling me an anti vaxxer for rejecting a vaccine that is evidently relatively unsafe, untill i can see the data is quite retarded. we do not have the data to claim that is safe. and every media outlet that claims it's safe is lying... i mean think about it. why would you take a vaccine where you have no long term case studies when you know that the disease you're trying to stop only has a 0.02% of killing you "if" you even get it, which isn't that likely either?
So overblown? Italy had to go into full lockdown. Brasil had common graves open to bury the dead. NY had trucks outside hospitals because they didn't had space inside for the bodies anymore. Overblown?
I heard about that drug already. No it's doesn't heal corona, that is why you don't hear anything about it. That is not the first drug that people say "It works screw the vaccine" whitout a clue of what they are talking about. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w
The vaccine was tested by people who know much more about how it works than you and me. Then it was approved by a no number of entities, from several different countries, all by people who know a lot more about it than you or me. If you chose to think all of them are bought by a world wide conspiracy... that is on you.
Literally all the data that is coming from the vaccine usage is proving that it works. Look at the number on countries with a large amount of the population vaccinated. I can use mine as example. We have almost no restrictions now with 70% of the population vaccinated and we have even better numbers now than what we had when we were on lockdown with very strict measures.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 italy has compulsory flu vaccinations and a super old demographic. if you take a vaccine right before you get an actual infection, you die. media doesn't tell you that. every "real" epidemiologist would strongly advice against taking a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic...
but we can disagree on this. it's fine.
my point is: yes i am against to covid vaccine. i am ok with anyone taking it, who wants to take it. i just don't want it for myself and i have taken many other vaccines. therefore. NOT AN ANTI VAXXER. point and case.
Being an old republic doesn't mean it didn't evolved over the years.
I never heard about a person dying if the are vaccinated right after getting infected, but since they are advising everyone to take it, my guess is that must be more to that. I will search for that info.
Just an anti vaxxer against covid vaccine. All of them?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 that's like saying "you hate food" cause you don't like a particular food item. it's dumb.
Being an old republic doesn't mean it didn't evolved over the years. no it doesn't it's not what i claimed. i just said in a very old demographic with compulsory vaccines. a disease is much more likely to kill people. because oild people are already weaker to disease. and freshly vaccined old people even more so. that's why so many died.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 dude. what the fuck are you talking about? the same critique i have on one covid vaccine are true for all the others. they are not even one year old and we know nothing about their potential harm. whereas we know pretty exactly how dangerous corona is and for me, a small known damger is preferable to a unknown danger. therefore i prefer the risk of getting covid over the risk of getting the vaccine.
would you take thalidomide or contagan just cause many others have created the same drug? this argument you just made is probably the stupidest one i have heard yet.
The guy mentioned on this post probably thought the same as you. I hope that risk doesn't end the same way. As far as I am concerned the risk of not taking is far to high.
I am not saying you should. I am trying to understand where you stand. That's why I asked if you dislike all of them.
No you clam, people go into the hospital for shit like they always have... the hospitals treat them like they always have for whatever it is they really have, for example pneumonia, but they register it as covid for the numbers. If someone dies of pneumonia they then claim it was covid so they get more funding if they get better it’s still considered a covid recovery and the numbers are increased. Which is why the numbers for all other flu like viruses have disappeared.
your obvious anger towards me and your response of personal attacks only shows that you are the one refusing to except anything other than your narrative.
I work at a Canadian health organization and I can easily see the numbers
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