Genuinely good guy vs bad boy: who gets the girl?

[Anonymous]

Genuinely good guy

Bad boy

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As expected most girls actually want the good guy and most guys are cluless about it.

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Here is the thing...
A good guy that isn't a pushover, can say no and disagree with people, and his who he is not caring if people like him or not, will never have a problem in getting a girl's attention.
Don't confuse good guys with doormats.

Sadly most good ones only develop into this when get older. Enche the idea that girls don't like them and only want to settle with them because they are safe.

Still a good guy that has this traits is king!

[ObscuredBeyond]

They choose whoever can secure a 2-story house sooner, so she can fill it with crap from the mall. And only sometimes thank him with sex, without fear of in-laws walking in on her. Because nobody likes that.

If the bad boy somehow does it first, she'll take her chances. If the really good guy manages, she'll take him, even if he has the personality of a sheet of plywood.

The bad boy needn't fear. If he can't secure that woman, there's always the ratchet skanks. Dangle some CBD in front of them like yarn, and the kitty will follow you home to keep playing with the yarn. If low, you can hold her over with some Marlboro Menthol 100s.

Now, if you're a younger, hipper, thinner version of Maurice from Disney's Beauty and the Beast? Enjoy loneliness. The nice ladies won't notice you exist. The ratchets will either friendzone you, or try to accuse you of rape just for being within 500 feet of them. The Asians who like you will be forbidden by their families from committing to you, and you'll be cockblocked. Or shut down from contact by others, even if you're content with the friendzone, as even that is treated as going too far.

You'll be happy for any female attention that isn't a psycho feminist, as they see you exist and then dedicate their lives to bullying and harassment, just to destroy you. Worse: the minute you fight back, because you have rights too, dammit, they label you an "incel," as if you'd even want sex from someone who is as much a jackass as her.

Worse yet: society expects you to be a good little doormat and take the abuse. Defend yourself, and you're automagically the bad guy. Not even a "bad boy" of the mythical variety women fawn over, the chiseled muscle piece with cig in mouth, leather jacket, and cliche motorcycle. No. You're John Wayne Gacy, no questions asked. Because anything else, would require thinking. And female NPCs hate that.

The guilty parties know who they are. It's why they hated the 2019 Joker movie so much. It points directly at them the blame they deserve for any real-life Jokers they may have created, foreshadowing that their guilt won't escape God's notice either, and that they are only fooling themselves if they tell themselves the contrary. Every torment in spite you visit on a modern Maurice, is another degree hotter the hellfire awaiting you, She-Frollos! And all your schemes, will only dig you a deeper hole!

That's not to say there are no good women left. But it's like trying to find a decent short wave radio station when you live in a broadcast dead zone. Don't place all your eggs in POF's basket. You will regret it.

[Asker]

1. Women care about much more than what you say.
2. Society expects women to be the dorrmats and take the abuse. Not us.
3. Feminists don't hate men.

[ObscuredBeyond]

My own life has shown the reverse to be true. Deny all you want, but you can't take what I witnessed in college away from me. You won't erase the abuse I endured by pretending it doesn't happen.

[Asker]

I think you didn't make the best analysis if the experiences you had then.

[ObscuredBeyond]

The school judiciary sided with me in the end. They agreed my tormentors went too far.

[Asker]

What did they do to you?

[ObscuredBeyond]

Started a bogus police investigation, and tried to prevent me from having a social life. Got me 2 months of being watched 24/7 by police, secretly, without my knowledge, over nothing in particular, in the hopes I'd get jumped the very minute I said or did anything that looked useful to build a case. Wasting resources to find a crime, rather than investigate an actual one. Took harassment to the next level, tried to drive me to suicide. Police gave up after 2 months, when they couldn't find anything. School judiciary finally told my tormentors to back off.

[Derek59987]

Bad boy because he hits on 10+ times as many girls as the good guy. Nice guys need to realize that it's less about becoming more attractive and more about showing your lust and desires to girls.

[Asker]

Thank you!
Finally someone gets it!

[he-takes-a-part]

Is it true?

[Asker]

@he-takes-a-part Read the update.

[NorthShoreCalling]

Nailed it.

[claryy]

Bad boys are the one who gets the gilr, but the good boy are able to keep the girl.

[Kevhanma]

How do you keep something you never get make it make sense sis

[claryy]

I meant that they get the girl after the bad boys and they are able to keep the girl

[StunningANDbrave]

In other words they get sloppy 2nds 🤣

[Chthou95]

@StunningANDbrave Pretty much. They get a beat up box lol

[claryy]

@StunningANDbrave usually is like that, but personally I go for the good boys

[IcedLemonade]

Assuming the bad boys who dont keep them want to keep them😂

[Asker]

@StunningANDbrave If a girl is not a virgin she is sloppy seconds right away?
If so what is a non virgin guy? Useless milked meat?

[Asker]

@Chthou95 Same question to you

[StunningANDbrave]

A non virgin guy is a guy, did you not read the post?
"Bad boys are the one who gets the girl, but the good boy are able to keep the girl"
This is in no uncertain terms saying that the "bad" boys get to fuck then the "good" boys get what's leftover.

[MzAsh]

Good guys get the good woman. Bad boys get the gutter rats.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I knew I liked you for a reason. Now there are two 😘🤗🥰

[MzAsh]

Haha 😆

[MCheetah]

Bad boy. Girls CLAIM to want the good guy, but never choose them in reality. And no, IDGAF what people think about my answer. They're full of sh*t. I knew so many men in my life that seemed like genuinely good, kind, caring, compassionate, worthy males, and they were just as single as I am. They ALL were under six feet tall (around my height, 5'8" to 5'11") and "average looking." They had a "medium" level of confidence, unlike me. They were what you would call "decent everyday guys." Single AF. At least I know why my short, ugly, dark, overweight ass is single. For these men, the. Personality was there, but being only a 5 or 6 out of 10, they stood no chance in hell.

So no. Despite people's virtual signaling bullsh*t, the confident bad boy is the one who ends up with the girl, and later divorcing her in her thirties. People like to deny this cause they're full of sh*t. It's true, though. "Alpha f*cks, beta bucks." (Not that they're even "betas" or anything, but the saying is still there.)

[Asker]

What if a bad boy was also short and overweight? Would they want him then?

Physical attraction must be there, I agree. But the good guy can be attractive.

[Subarugirl]

I ended with great guy, who is under 6 ft tall, not even remotely a bad boy. Being a good guy doesn't mean that you have to be boring.

[Hypnos0929]

Real talk:
It lowkey depends on the woman but the "bad boy" will probably have a better shot. A lot of women find rebellion attractive and dislike guys who they feel they can control. Women want to feel attractive and attracted to someone, many want a flood of emotions, many love the mystery, many want to wonder (if that makes sense).

With that said it's not necessarily women at fault, if you're always looking up to her she's eventually going to find a reason to look down on you regardless of how you treat her. If you constantly make her feel like she can do better she's going to try to, and even if she fails you/she can't go back. You'll always know she tried, and she'll always know you came back. I fell into that trap once, still haven't forgiven myself but I have forgiven her.
If you're a good guy then treat her well but don't treat her like the best thing since sliced bread. If you can't step back and walk away you NEED to step back and walk away, at least for a bit.

[Asker]

I think that attraction rebellion ends on teenager years, for most women anyway.

I genuinely believe that if good men carried themselves with the same confidence bad guys do they would have different luck with women.
It's not about being bad or good, is about having a backbone, being able to disagree and say no, have your own interests and not giving a shit about her approval. A good guy that has this characteristics is king.

[Anonymous]

Talk is cheap.

While it’s true that most women want a good man it’s also even more true they make sexual decisions based on their emotions and what excites them vs what is right thing to do or not do.

Most women don’t want to be mistreated. But they do like challenge and excitement. Although I’ve been a good guy for most of my life but I have had a few bad boy moments. There were several times I could of taken things a step further but I didn’t.

I remember talking to a braidsmaid at a friends wedding (cutest girl there). I invited her to the after party while holding her hand. She gushed and said “tempting…but I have a bf” but she kept looking into my eyes while her body melted when she said it. She WANTED me to keep pushing it and I could of easily made out with her (and more) if I kept my charm up.

But instead I said “oh I respect that you have a bf”. I gave her a hug and walked away. But I could see was starving for a mr. right now bad boy. I could of been that guy but my conscience told me otherwise.

It’s just that deep lust women have for excitement. Yes everyone has it. But they seem to have it much worse than vice versa. If they want to indulge it fine. But they are not “victims” of the outcome. If that girl consensually had sex with me that night than it would be on her to deal with consequences of cheating. But that’s were too many women don’t own up to their crap.

[Asker]

The good guys do get girls. The good guys that aren't pushovers, can say no, disagree when they have to and don't care if a girl like them or not. A good guy that has this traits is king.

That excitement you talk about doesn't have to come from asshole. It can come from a good guy who isn't a doormat.

[Opinion Owner]

Right. But finding the balance is very tough. Women always “test” guys.

[ZackBan]

To answer your update: every single one of those girls would take a bad boy in a heartbeat if you actually think a good guy finishes anywhere before last you're the one who is clueless.

I'm not trying to attack you or start something but I don't want you to waste your life deluding yourself into thinking that being good, good things will hapen to you.
Being a bad boy does not mean being disrespectful or degrading. It means owning who you are and not trying to play the hero or the victim instead accepting that you are human with human desires, when you're with a girl she knows you like her and you shouldn't pretend you don't or try to hide it but instead act according to your feelings and make her feel like you know what you want and that you'll get it.
This comes off mostly as what people call a bad boy but it's way more attractive than being a self righteous whimp waiting for thunder to strike your love into her heart.

[Asker]

The good guys do get girls. The good guys that aren't pushovers, can say no, disagree when they have to and don't care if a girl like them or not. A good guy that has this traits is king.

That is what people get wrong. They confuse good guy with a doormat.

[ZackBan]

Well it's just a naming problem then, when a guy "don't care if a girl likes him or not" as you say he instantly is removed from the good guy category.
He's a good man sure but the term good guy is synonymous with being a pushover in common language

[Asker]

Why? A good guy can fit that category.

[ZackBan]

All I'm saying is, a bad boy can be a good person and a good guy can be a bad person.
Being a good guy doesn't mean you're actually good it just means you make life choices that follow the strict and narrow, you don't take risks you're always worried about pleasing everyone.
You can be a decent person who respects women and is loyal to only one all while living a worthy life with no apologies or excuses

[Anonymous]

Bad boys are for girls who don’t value themselves or aren’t serious or look at a guy who seems challenging or just inexperienced. Good guys are the guys to get married to who cares about her and bettering his life. Bad boys are immature and although they may have money or their own place, they most likely waste their money on “guys trips”, different, parties, alcohol, high end clothes, expensive cars. While the good guy wants to invest in a family for the future. That’s how I look at it, but some guy or girl is going to read this and think WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

[mobiusforniner]

The bad guy is a misconception. Sure, there are those girls who go for total assholes, but most dont. And most "good guys" are in all reality are insecure, lacking confidence, borderline creepers who claim to be good guys because they "care" about a woman. I was there myself, thinking i was a good guys and guess what? It didn't get me anywhere. Being attractive and having "game" means being confident in yourself, a its a man who can make decisions and stick with them, a man who has his shit together, knows who he is and where he is going. Ascertive but smooth. Easy to forgive others and forget. A gentleman, not a whiny man child. Those kind of men of course blow the average "good guy" out of the water, and so these good guys have nothing better to do but blame women for falling for "bad guys". Kind of pathetic, actually.

[ObscuredBeyond]

We've clearly learned from very different experiences.

For me, it always came down to a fairly simple analogy, derived from early childhood. As I get older, the themes never change. Only the items involved get more sophisticated, but the heart of the story is one even a small child can relate to.

I was the kid with a sandbox. Not content to build just a castle, I advanced.

I wanted to create entire miniature towns, and use them to illustrate greater points about life. And just enjoy sculpting. But I would love to have a girl who shares my passion for the little world I'm building in the sandbox.

But it's never meant to be. Always the same replies from the others in that same school, always the same lame excuses.

"Sandbox civilizations are for losers!"

"Just you wait. My cat will adore this... new litterbox."

"Whatever. That guy in the white van has free candy!"

"I don't care about your sand project! My mom and dad are fighting again!"

"Eric's got better toys. Don't talk to me again."

"I met a sailor."

"I don't care about your sandbox town. Hit Pedro in the face for me, because his parents and mine don't get along, or you're of no use to me!"

"Twerp white boy! You no play with our girl Kyung-Ah! You beneath her! You go play with sand by self!"

"Merre can't play in the sand with you. She's sick. She's never getting better. Go find someone else to build sand designer malls with. No, you can't say hi to her either. She's too sick."

"You're a good back scratcher. But I know a better one! And I'm not gonna help you with your sandbox. I just wanted my back scratched."

"Turns out, I really don't care about your sandbox. I just wanted you to play hopscotch with me. But since I caught you sometimes playing it without me, and not by my rules, you need to stay away from me!"

"You can't play with Sunny anymore! You're beneath her! How do you not know that? Wong is her equal. She can play backscratch with him, but no sandbox with you!"

[Anonymous]

If you are interested in kids/teenage girls-why would you like a kid🙃 anyway-then dont complain about girls liking badboys because our brain is developing till in our early 20s till mid 20s which affect our maturity and personality.
However, if you like mature girls, date girls your age or older. If bad boys get girls, how is my current boyfriend ain't virgin. He seriously get used for sex by girls. Every girl left him after having sex with him or kissing him. He ask these girls to be his future wife but they just leave him because these girls were young and immature
I thought he is a player but he is actually very nice to and agreed to wait with me till marriage. Before you think he cheats on me, then how? He is giving all his attention to me and he can't have time for cheating. I have acces to his mobile phone etc.
So where tf are the virgin guys? Even the ugly guys in my environment is a whore.

[Opinion Owner]

The guys who say badboys are just looking after crazy and bad girls. This is like dating a lot badboys but also complaining about badboys. Badboys date crazy/badgirls

[Opinion Owner]

We are with my boyfriend together for one year. He wants to marry me after few months but i want to wait more

[Opinion Owner]

Badboys attract crazy bad girls. Have you ever seen a financially settled down mature woman like lawyer, teacher, etc dating badboys? They are Bad-BOY for a reason because they are boys, not men

[Opinion Owner]

I am together with my boyfriend for one year. He wanted to marry me after few months but i wanted to wait more*** so he immediately
wanted to marry me

[Twalli]

Your boyfriend seems to want to move too fast. I have been with my girlfriend for 3 years and while I never didn't want to marry her I didn't even seriously entertain the idea until about 6 months ago.

[PinkLady21]

It depends what you mean by good guy, the amount of times I’ve heard guys claim to be the good guy when really they end up being just plain strange, too self conscious or paranoid… if by bad guy you mean confident, a tad cocky and good in bed then it’s going to be the bad guy…. But if by good guy you mean he’s confident and can also treat a decent woman like a queen then I’d say the good guy.

[MCheetah]

He means genuinely good men, not the douchebag that a girl will try to rationalize as "being good on the inside" like you just did. If they're cocky, they're not "good guys," let alone are going to be submissive to any woman. What you said was just outright delusional and so many women seem to think of men in these contradictory standards. The Alpha Male douchebag that'll also worship you "like a queen" and takes care of his mother when not volunteering at the soup kitchen. Seriously...

[PinkLady21]

Haha no you’re misunderstanding what I said never once did I say I expected the bad guy to be the decent one to treat his woman like a queen… I simply meant the cocky bad guy will get the woman in this day and age, unless the good guy is confident and decent and not one of those guys who claim to be a good guy because they are rejected often or have been cheated on without actually realising it’s possible to be treated poorly and still be a toxic person themselves … which goes for men and women alike…. Also being a bit cocky doesn’t make someone a bad person and being submissive to a woman doesn’t necessarily make someone a good guy. Just saying 🙂

[MCheetah]

@PinkLady21

Yes, I know what you're saying. I'm saying that version of "a good guy" doesn't exist and is a complete contradiction, if not an oxymoron. Being cocky 99% of the time, means someone is NOT a good person, as shown in how they elevate themselves over others. A "good guy" doesn't think of himself as superior to others or has an ego.

That's why I said women want a contradiction in men that doesn't exist: a "good man" who's also cocky and thinks he's hot sh*t, like the bad boy. Someone else on here pointed out that the closest to that in real life is a guy who treats his friends well and would destroy his enemies, but that wouldn't be a "good guy" in the way he's presented here, even if that's the closest we can get to this contradictory belief.

[Anonymous]

"As expected most girls actually want the good guy and most guys are cluless about it."

As expected, there are still naïve guys who take what women say they want at face value rather than observing their behavior to get the facts.

Here are the facts. Women "like" good guys but bad boys make their panties wet. Good guys are always a compromise. Most women will go for the so called bad boys until they are ready to make that compromise and settle down with a guy who will pay the bills and stick around to be a good father, but chances are he won't be the guy they dream about.

[Asker]

The good guys do get girls and get their panties wet. The good guys that aren't pushovers, can say no, disagree when they have to and don't care if a girl like them or not. A good guy that has this traits is king.

Bad boys are just the easy fuck, just sluts are to us. The good guy is not the compromise he is the one they really want.

[Opinion Owner]

Sure thing dude. Lol

[Uptowngirl88]

Any guy that calls himself a good guy is not a good guy. Any good person would never have to say that. And I don't know what you consider as a good or bad guy this is vague. Anyway I would go for the man who is financial set, educated, good-looking, traditional, treats me like a lady, honest, respectful, loving and loyal. Can cook and clean. Well dressed groom ans smells good.

[Twalli]

Nobody should need to describe themselves as good or bad. Their actions should express it.

[sage2021]

That would be Mr. Perfect. I don't think they make them anymore. Just sayin'

[Uptowngirl88]

@Twalli exactly !!

[Uptowngirl88]

@sage2021 facts!!

[Twalli]

@sage2021 I think I am like that. I mean I just act the way I am and let people decide if they consider it good or bad. I make it clear it won't change as ai act that way even if I am not looking to date you. I just don't ask you out if I don't want to date you.

[Anonymous]

It depends on the age at 20s they go for bad boys and slut phase according to them it build character that's on paper on fact they that phase create a whore. Anyway later at their 30s they want the good one who provides

If she spent her prime on the cock carousel why would a guy That have some value would be with ex cock carousel rider ! The cock carousel have it's impact on them the more body count the more bitch she's the less pair she have the easier she can get rid of her man they monkey Branch.

Guys save your resources and keep and eye on them it's treasure for some chameleon out there. Oh I forgot to mention women needs oxygen I mean attention, attention worth cash. Welcome to 2021

Peace

[Asker]

People you fuck are not the same people you have a relationship with.

That is valid for both genders. Both genders have sluts, bad boys and bitches. They have their uses and it's not necessarily for a relationship. It can be for sure, but not often. You will find that the people you like to have one night stands with are very different from the ones you want to date.

That is why nice guys think girls don't like them when they see the girl with the bad boys. Those are just for an easy fuck my dude. They will be the fuck she wants for the rest of her life.

But make no mistake! Good guys that have a backbone, are not people pleasers and have interests of their own get girls as easy as bad boys.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah they only count the guys who they really like so 1 night stands and f boys are not counted. So when girl say her body count is 10 the fact it's probably about 30 pipes.

They're not for easy fuck bad boys know the game very well. They spend nights crying on them. Later when she hit the wall she have no choice except the good guy so she take him but there's nostalgia for break ribs and punch every now n then so the good guy must provide So many things to get what other got for free. I personally don't call them good guy good guy knows his values and never get such women these are simps out there

[Asker]

Don't be naive. You really think girls are not in just for the sex? And that's what they want out of them?

The good guy is not what she settles with, is what she really wants. For a quick dick the bad guy is easier to get. Same as a slut for us.

[Opinion Owner]

Don't be blue pilled. They can't get much from Chad except sex Chad doesn't commit because he has options and live his own life his own rules doing what he please.

Good guy never gets slut for free of charge he have to pay cash. Quick dick bad boy is easier ! They go to them because they're challenge the good guy is not challenge he's willing to commit and ask her to be his girlfriend.

Take a look on Taylor the fiend channel.

Peace

[Asker]

Red pills are the ones that need to awake.
This girls that want the bad boy to commit are the trash women with daddy issues. Not the good ones. The good ones just use them for a ride. That is what you need to understand.

The good guys that actually have social skills also have a easy time getting girls. Take it from one that never had his bed empty for long.

[Opinion Owner]

So she's good but use them for a ride Seriously!

True she's going for a ride as you said which is riding the cock carousel .

Dany devito have good skills too but they won't choose him over the rock.

Good guys finish last in the real world women get bored when guy say I love you and I miss you and guy who's faithful they want drama and chaos .

Unfortunately social skills won't do much in the court too.

Red pilled are the one who must wake up. SMH.

Peace

[Asker]

What is wrong with having a few fucks without commitment? Good guys with socials skills are also fucked by them.

And the Rock is very nice guy.

The problem is most good guys develop social skills later in life. If they had confidence and attitude, not asshole attitude, but posture and a backbone they would get more girls than the assholes.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

The well-adjusted, mentally healthy one.

Met plenty of "good boys" who would see nothing wrong with date rape, and plenty of "bad boys" who aren't actually badass.

The authentic one gets my vote.

[Anonymous]

I don't know any genuinely good guys with normal social skills who does not have a girlfriend if he wants it.. that says a lot to me. I see a lot of bad boys also getting some, but they are just using girls, so normally not for very long.

[Asker]

Wish I could make this the MHO now.

[Opinion Owner]

Well thanks!. I don't actually need it, so fine that you just wrote that :)

[TommyMountainFigure]

There is a misconception here.
In my experience, girls will rarely (if ever) admit to it but deep down they want a bad boy that they and ONLY they can control. In other words, as long as he isn't bad to her and always remains exciting without ever getting caught, she's happy.

[serious]

My answer would be.

Nice guy to begin with but in the end it is either the " GOOD GUY" or the " BAD BOY" either one of them will eventually get the woman.

By good guy I mean a guy who is only good enough and not nice, not 100% nice.

[YollyM]

For me genuine guy❤️ . I find bad boys shallow and emature , can't even have a meaningful conversation with them🙄

[SpiderManFan2002]

A genuinely good guy all the way, I’m not falling for some bad boy who probably belongs in a Wattpad fanfiction😂😂

[dustybiker]

There is a helluva lot more to a person than a “good” or “bad” label. I’ve met some great men that could be categorized either: equal fun, risk and dare, caring, thoughtful… Those lovely middle men that tick far more boxes.

[Weater67]

10 times out of 10 it will be the bad boy.


If that is not the case why do women always talk about how terrible their exes are? What? They couldn’t find one nice guy and stick with him? No way. Bad boys always win and that is everybody’s dirty little secret we never talk about in public.


I’ve been a nice guy for 50 years and women literally are repulsed by men being nice.

[Asker]

I can tell you right here and now that it had nothing to do with you being nice.
I am not 30 yet and I never had an issue getting a girl.

[Weater67]

Never had an issue getting a girl who would rather be dating me

[Asker]

You said that you have been nice for 50 years and that women are repulsed by that. Now you say you never had an issue getting a girl?

[wtf636]

Depends. How old is she?
16- 28 The bad boy usually. But then they get bitter cause they fuck around, so...
28 - & up. The good guy. As long as he has shit together, but I assume it is part of being a good guy.