At your age, you have virtually zero risk of dying from covid (0.003%). If you do catch it, you'll recover easily (80% have mild to zero symptoms. At worst, it is like the flu) and will then have natural immunity for years. Natural immunity is far, far superior in fighting covid and every other infection than the immunity provided against covid by the jab. The jab actually decreases your ability to fight anything other than the original SARS-Cov-2.
If people are afraid that you might catch it and infect others, tell them that people who receive the jab can also contract and transmit it. So it's an invalid argument.
The jab damages female reproductive organs. Ask your parents if they want you to be sterile.
If a medical practitioner wants you to get the jab, you have a right to be fully informed before voluntarily consenting. Have them sign an affidavit that says they provided you with a list of all the ingredients and informed you of all the possible pros and cons. They won't do it because the ingredients are secret and many doctors don't know any more about the risks than do lay people who get their information from TV.
It violates all the Nuremberg codes to force or even coerce someone to participate in a medical experiment. And the jab IS experimental. It has not been tested for safety or efficacy. And regardless of what the media says, the FDA has NOT fully approved any of the available vaxes. They merely approved one Pfizer jab that won't be available until 2023, and extended emergency use authorization for the one that is already in circulation.
The risks of dying from covid have been greatly exaggerated in order to generate hysteria. Both the average and the mean age of death from covid is 80 years old.
Safe and effective drugs, supplements and treatments have been deliberately disparaged and withheld.
There is a ton of data out there about risks from the jab. Young people who have no risk of dying from covid are dying or suffering permanent injuries from the jab. And even the manufacturers have no idea what the long term risks are because the general population IS the guinea pig. However, many top experts in fields like virology, cellular biology and other related sciences are predicting catastrophic deaths from the jab over the next 2 to 3 years.
Is it worth the risk? How much is your health worth to you?
As I said, there are lots of resources, but they are desperately blocked, banned and censored by the pharma profiteers.
A fantastic resource is Global Research.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/latest-news-and-top-stories
The Highwire with Del Bigtree, as well as Health Freedom Summit and American Frontline Doctors are great resources for finding interviews with top global experts. There are more, but those are a good place to start.
Don't be fooled by manufactured consensus. Don't succumb to coercion. At least wait a couple of years to see how the experiment plays out before getting one of these shots.
@Kitty46, the best the manufactures say is that it may reduce symptoms if you contract covid. But it is now widely admitted that it doesn't prevent contracting or transmitting the disease.
And, again, the chances of not getting over it on your own, as you would with something like the flu, are extremely low unless you are well over 70 or have some underlying condition like heart, lung or kidney disease or are immune compromised. In fact, it appears to be less dangerous than flu for young people.
The best thing is to be up on your vitamins, especially vitamins D and C. And ivermectin has proven to be extremely safe and effective in curing covid if a person begins to develop symptoms. HCQ+zinc supposedly works well, too.
And adverse reactions to the jab are becoming widely known.
@Kitty46, it won't disappear. The flu doesn't disappear. The question is, how dangerous is covid? In reality, it's about as deadly as the flu. Except the flu kills more young people. Plus, there are now known treatments. Fuck the fake death statistics.
Something that will never go away, either, is the fear porn. The profiteers found out how easy is was to manipulate the populace, so they will continue to weaponize fear propaganda forever, or at least until enough people wise up and tell them to fuck off. I'm embarrassed by how gullible and willfully ignorant people are.
It's all about profits, not just for vax manufacturers and pharma profiteers, but for mega-corporations like Amazon and big box stores, real estate investors, etc. This has been about plundering people's assets and eliminating competition. There never was a "pandemic" and it's not about protecting people's health.
Treating covid
www.onedaymd.com/.../...protocol-for-covid-19.html
Ivermectin:
One of the safest drugs known to man
On the WHO's list of essential medicines (for humans)
Billions of doses world wide over 4 decades
$Cheap, off patient, generic
113 studies, including 31 RCTs, showing effectiveness against Covid-19
Did anyone else notice that www.onedaymd.com/.../...protocol-for-covid-19.html doesn't mention "113 studies, including 31 RCTs"?
And that their graphs showing the "success" of the don't show anything to compare it to? (Quite apart from the fact that treatment necessarily involves active cases.)
This is an information-free graph:
I mean, really, what is it supposed to prove? Oh, wait, I almost missed the light blue background which shows the start of using the treatment, which started at the peak of new cases.
How is any treatment protocol supposed to stop people passing on the virus outside the hospitals at all, let alone instantly, on the first day?
What happened in the other areas of India? Where's the graph of vaccinations on that timeline? Was there a lockdown, or access to masks, at some point? (Answering myself: yes, there was a severe lockdown in both Delhi and Uttar Pradesh until the beginning of June.) I know they've administered 77 million vaccines among the 200 million population of that area so far.
People are clogging up hospital beds in OK, right now, from taking horse medicine. Leave the experiments to the professionals, they're happening, and they may yet find it helps, but they haven't yet.
https://archive.is/cCmyd
"Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances"
If someone forces you to get a vaccine then they are guilty of assault, forceable confinement (if you are captured) and medical malpractice you are jabbed while restrained. If someone tries to coerce you, then they are guilty of negligent misrepresentation (telling you the vaccine is safe and effective), intimidation (frightening you into getting a vaccine) or culpable homicide if you become ill and die from myocarditis-a common adverse reaction to the Covid jab in particular.
If you didn't want the V but you got it in order to travel - you were coerced.
If you didn't want the V but got it so you could see your family - you were coerced.
If you didn't want the V but got it so you could keep your job - you were coerced.
If you didn't want the V but got it because your doctor wouldn't treat you - you were coerced.
If you didn't want the V but got it because you couldn't go to certain stores without it - you were coerced.
What is the Nuremburg Code?
The Nuremberg Code is the most important document in the history of the ethics of medical research.1-6 The Code was formulated 50 years ago, in August 1947, in Nuremberg, Germany, by American judges sitting in judgment of Nazi doctors accused of conducting murderous and torturous human experiments in the concentration camps (the so-called Doctors' Trial).7 It served as a blueprint for today's principles that ensure the rights of subjects in medical research.
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u What is your reason for not wanting the vaccination?
That isn't a reason. That is simply restating what you have already said. What leads you to the conclusion that you don't want to get it?
Do you live with your parents?
t is unlikely that parents will let you make this decision. If you get covid, you will be exposing the other family members in the home and they have a responsibility to try to keep everyone safe.
He's got a point, vaccine only reduces the chances of getting infected. So if you get the virus, your family is at increased risk and quarantine despite being vaccinated.
However this doesn't apply if you don't step out of the house at all
@Juxtapose Yes, but nobody is fording her to still live with her parents, either. When you take advantage of a situation like that, the trade-off is that you sacrifice some of your individual privacy and other rights.
When you live alone, you can stay up all night and play your music as loud as you want, but not when you live with other people.
@Juxtapose And her parents are not required to give her a place to stay or to feed her or to do any of the other things that they are still doing. If she wants to continue receiving their help, she should accede to their request. That parent-child relationship isn't supposed to always be a one-way street and this is something that she can do for them.
@Juxtapose "In 1905, the Supreme Court ruled that a state can mandate vaccines, and accompany those vaccine mandates with a criminal fine for those not in compliance. More broadly, the court ruled that the state can impose “reasonable regulations” to protect the public health, even when such regulations interfere with individual rights. supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/"
I know, and she's in India, anyway, but I was making the point to @Juxtapose. I agree she should comply with reasonable demands from the people paying her way.
A person can refuse to take vaccine or use mask, provided they don't engage with public at all. One's individual rights can't put the life of others at risk.
You're not allowed to do that. By not getting the vaccine you put ME in danger. Whether you "fEeL sAfE" or not is irrelevant and not important. What's important is safety.
The jab doesn't prevent one from contracting or transmitting covid. Keep up, people. It's common knowledge at this point.
All that is claimed is the hope that it will reduce symptoms if a person contracts it.
So what's the difference between jabbed and unjabbed in preventing the spread of covid?
@Juxtapose The facts are at the CDC site, and they've been reporting them for 18 months or more.
If her parents want her to get vaccinated for themselves they can get vaccinated otherwise it's not her problem.
The vaccine works right? Why should anyone be forced to take it when the vaccinated are protected by their working vaccine
@disgustingweebtrash It's almost like they don't know what they're talking about xD
@Fion3il, I don't "trust" anybody. I look at evidence. I do also look at people's qualifications, and affiliations, as well as any motives they might have for lying. What do they have to gain?
Regarding the CDC, it is a private company. It gets much of its funding from from corporations and private foundations such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, GAVI, and many of the same pharma companies who produce vaccines. It also owns and profits from many vaccine patents.
Simply given the way the CDC has behaved, I give it little credibility. The same with the WHO. I don't have details in front of me so I can't quote details. But they seem to be working for those who stand to gain a great deal from this covid "pandemic" and "vaccines".
@Fion3il. Trust implies lack of critical thinking. I don't believe something just because a certain person says it. I read, listen and formulate my own opinions based on information. My opinions can be modified or changed as new information becomes available. I seek out and assess as much information as I can get.
I have a lot of smart, informed friends around the world who share posts and point me toward things that I may not otherwise not come across. I read and listen to some of the things they share. .
Credible information on covid comes from the research of eminent scientific experts and the findings of thousands of medical practitioners who, at great personal cost, share information that doesn't comply with the official, desired narrative. People who promote the official narrative get rewarded. But honest, ethical people who take their Hippocratic oaths seriously do what they can to save lives. For that, they get blocked, banned, censored, mocked, slandered and threatened by the immensely powerful forces of dishonesty and greed.
@Fion3il, not a group. Some of my FB friends are just particularly intelligent and well informed. They are not stupid, political ideologues who believe everything that's spewed by the corporate msm echo chamber that manufactures consensus for the powerful elite. They actually ask questions, do research, and use their brains to sort through bias and bullshit.
They include award winning independent journalists, authors, publishers, and researchers from around the world. One good friend is a progressive woman, a two time mayor, who is running for California governor in 2022.
What's your reason?
A year ago this week my 3 month coma almost ended very differently. My heart stopped. I'd basically suffocated as my lungs became scarred and filled with fluids.
2% of people who contract covid die from it. That's 1 in 50.
The last numbers I saw of deaths attributed to the vaccine was 73 out of 50 million doses. And no autopsies have been performed to rule out previously unknown underlying issues that might have contributed.
I would not wish my experience on anyone.
I'm diabetic. I was admitted to hospital in late June 2020 for an infection in my foot that needed 6 weeks IV antibiotics. A simple treatment. My blood sugar control was the best it had been. Ever.
On admission I was tested. Negative. Four days later the test was repeated. Also negative. So I was moved to a main ward with 2 others. Next day one more was brought in. Within two days he'd developed full blown covid. He'd had a false negative test. Two days later all four of us were covid patients. Within a week I was on life support. I spent the next 4 months in ICU, in a coma for 3 of them.
I remember some of it. Not much, thankfully. I made some "covid Diary" videos I posted on Facebook. (I'm taking a chance here that someone may recognise me. I'm very private normally but I'll take my chances for this.)
I was suffocating. Drowning.
I lost over 70lbs bodyweight. I needed dialysis for weeks and still have to take medication to support my kidneys - which only now work at around 50% of what they should do. My liver was damaged. My organs all failed.
On 1st September 2020 my heart stopped. My breathing stopped. Medically I was, essentially, dead. Thankfully I was talking to a nurse at the time. I don't remember it - I was delerious when not fully unconscious. The nurse was able to start CPR immediately. The crash team was there within seconds and they kept going for four hours to save my life.
Four hours. Several broken ribs caused by the resuscitation. WHO recommendations are not to try at all.
After I came out of the coma I suffered a relapse of the infection in my foot. The only choice for my survival because I was so weak was a below knee amputation. On 19th October 2020 my foot and half my lower right leg were amputated. I was in hospital until a few days before Christmas 2020.
If you think that experience sounds better than a few days of headaches after a needle in your arm then you've missed my point.
I wouldn't wish the last year of my life on anyone. My future is unlike anything I had imagined. My life is going to be very different from what I'd expected or imagined.
I can't force you to have the vaccine. But I'll beg you to if I have to. If it would help.
Please. Don't risk an experience like I've had.
Please. Reconsider the vaccine.
I'm approaching 50. My son just turned 3. I can't run with him - my prosthetic won't let me. I can't play the way he asks me to.
Please. Think about your future.
Just don't take it, its going to be to be very tough but its the only real option. Many of us are willing to go as far as we need to go before we take it. Personally i'd die before i take something against my will.
The reason you should not go for a fake ID is not just because that is a crime, you condone this tyranny if you get it. The solution is not taking it no matter what happens unless you want to take it for medical reasons. Nobody has a right to make you take it against your will that is highly illegal in international law.
So simply don't take it and don't give in, find alternatives to places that don't let you in. We need to make a stand now or this tyranny is permanent. If we bow down and fake it, sooner they will literally force you to take it. If we refuse no matter what in large enough numbers there is nothing they can do.
And it won't be over if we give in, they then have the system to force you to take anything including things that make you sterile if this one doesn't already.
If you don't have a job that requires you be vaccinated, that is one way. If you aren't going to college that requires that you be vaccinated, that's another. If you don't have friends who won't allow you in their house unless you're vaccinated because they have young, unvaccinated children, or because their family members are older or immunocompromised, that's another way to avoid being vaccinated.
But, haven't you been vaccinated against childhood diseases? This is the same kind of thing. It prevents you from getting seriously ill from Covid 19, it also prevents YOU from infecting someone else because you've been exposed to someone and you've acquired the illness.
This is simply a way to stop the spread of a communicable illness such as mumps, measles, chicken pox, German measles, which are deadly to a fetus if a woman is pregnant, tetanus... and a HOST of other illnesses which we vaccinate against, as common as the flu.
As long as people like you refuse to get vaccinated, this illness will continue to be a worldwide problem that fills up hospitals with sick people and prevents people from taking care of ordinary medical problems such as cancer, heart disase, diabetes et al.
There are practically no ICU beds for anyone but Covid patients. More than 90 percent of the very ill patients are unvaccinated.
It would seem to me a logical and HEALTHY choice to become vaccinated to protect all your friends, family and the community, and by extension, the world.
If another variant comes along that beats the current vaccine, more people will die from this illness and many, many more will become sick. The number of young children with Covid and infants with the Covid syndrome, has skyrocketed. Schools are closing again. Infants have died.
The vaccine is part of the solution to bring life back to normal. Isn't that what you want for everyone?
My family kept tryna force me as well. But i stood my ground. They were like, you dont realize what you could get without the vaax! And i was like, and you dont realize what youve just done to your body, experiementing with this vaax. I may decide to get it later but right now its a no. So stop
Did they hold you down?
Yea i had to deal with that too but i verbally abused that ass back. Two wrongs dont make a right. But it sure kept me from being forced to do something against my will
Im not an antivaxxer. I just dont wanna take something i dont fully trust yet. But no i just threw back everything at them. Like i mentioned in my initial post where they said “it could hurt me” and i told em “it could hurt you too.” I just kept repeating everything they said because it made sense
As others have been saying, stand your ground! Don't let anyone pressure you into getting something you don't want or believe in!!!
If it bothers your family, wear a mask around them. It isn't society's business: don't ask; don't tell.
The only backlash you'll really face is when your school and/or jobs mandate said shot. You can get a medical or religious exemption... if you qualify. But that's easier said than done.
Regarding your update: Damn, sorry girl :|
If it makes you feel better, some of us getting vaccinated don't want it, we got it because we had to as well. Like for me, I had to get vaccinated because my job required it, otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten it either.
You'll have to get your own place to live so you can live apart from your family. The only other alternative is to promise them that you'll live in a state of constant self-isolation i. e. no going outside, visiting friends, running errands (and mean it).
Your family is probably worried about the danger you might pose to others if you don't get the vaccine, especially younger family members who can't get vaccinated. They are also worried about your survival, as there have been a lot of deaths from this virus, especially the delta varient.
I believe everyone is free to get the vaccine if they want to or not. However, no one is free to let their choice endanger others. We must all take responsibility for our choices, and accept the consequences. The problem is that a lot of people want to express their freedom of choice while avoiding the consequences. That's just not how the world works.
If you live in America you don't need to show people proof of vaccination to be a part of society. This isn't Nazi Germany; the Gestapo isn't going around asking for your papers. Your health information is private and protected; you don't have to share it with the police or businesses.
Take the vaccine or get covid19. Polio and a life time in the iron lung is more merciful then covid19. Just take the shots and forget about it a day later.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/xowUq7JgFeQYou can survive being muscularly paralyzed from the neck down with functional lungs in an iron lung for 50 years. There's nothing on this earth can help you survive covid19 that destroyed your lungs. It's like lung cancer that is as contagious as the flu. That is avoidable with a vaccine. Also polio is basically an extinct disease from using vaccines and that's the game plan flr covid19.
If you were truly a martyr, you'd try to get COVID to prove it isn't deadly, and then die of it. Martyrs aren't martyrs until they're dead.
But since I assume you want to live (aka, enjoy your personal freedoms), you've got a few options.
Reject the vaccine, move out of your parents' home and make your own way. You like your freedom, you like having control over yourself. This allows you both and also allows you to remain unprotected from COVID-19 and its variants.
Or, accept the condition of living in your parents' home and get the vaccine. You protect them, you also reduce your chances of hospitalization if you do get a rare breakout case, and that saves them the money your treatment will cost.
So.
How much do you make a month and can you afford your own place?
No ones forcing you to get vaccinated. You should Get vaccinated though, one of the primary ways viruses mutate and evolve is from human hosts so by limiting the chance of being a human hose for covid 19 you’re reducing others risks as well as your own risks.
I encourage You can take time doing your own research on vaccines because a lot of people here are big fear monger conspiracy theorist making ridiculous claims that the vaccine “alters your dna” “the government will track you”.
None of these have any bases in facts, it’s illogical non sense that can easily be debunked. I suggest watching hbomberguys measured response video on vaccines:
No one can force you, if they really are going to force you then I would separate yourself from them until ghis is all over at least. If they can't respect your decision on not putting something in your body that has been proven to have real possible side effects and plus its a vaccine that hasn't full been tested, then they don't respect you and are blind to how stupid they are.
Without knowing any of the specifics about the legal environment or social-political situation you are in, or even the type of vaccinations that are available for whatever pathagon you are refusing to be vaccinated for, all I can say is that you owe it too yourself too determine whether it is in your best interest to be vaccinated or not. If the products available have an unproven track record for effectiveness in boosting autoimmune response, or has unsafe side effects that cannot be easily defined or explained by the manufacturer or governing community health agencies of your area and geographic location, than you are correct in being concerned about unfavorable side effects of an unproven vaccine, in favor of further testing and development before allowing yourself to be administered any products.
I haven't gotten them either. The information against is being suppressed.
Some are trying to forge the vax certificates. I think that's going too far.
I think it's wrong for governments to force this. It's our bodies.
But in a few days I won't be allowed in a restaurant, even with sanitizer at the door, temperature check, and mask on. It's bullshit. They're really leaving us no choice now, if we can't enter stores.
@AmandaYVR I got the vaccine, and I think it's a good thing to do. But I fully respect your right not to.
You won’t be forced to take it. You may face certain consequences where it’s required to attend some colleges or to work somewhere and some cities are requiring it for indoor dining, etc. but no one is going to make you take it. Your choice could limit where you can go and what you can do though depending on where you live or travel to.
You are an adult so it’s your choice if you want to get it or not
No one can force you per say (cause it can result into some serious problems) but we do require a “vaccinated certificate” to travel almost anywhere (including malls, etc)
So as situation arises and you want to visit any public place you’ll be indirectly forced to get vaccinated by government (and we can’t do anything about that cause it’s government duh)
I haven’t been vaccinated either but in near future if I plan to travel I’ll have to get vaxxed and maybe you’ll have to too (unless you can manage to remain unvaccinated until this whole corona pandemic blows over)
I find it scary that outside of the approved government narrative, despite the experts being wrong about almost everything this pandemic, everything else is a conspiracy theory. Fear and censorship has always been the precursor to controlling populations.
Stand up for what you believe in. Even if you end up deciding to get the vaccine. We need to fight back against this blatant authoritarianism. Though it’s even harder when it’s family that thinks you are harming them. You could try to reason with them, showing them Israel’s data. But it may be best to move out.
•The flu is worse, there is nothing to worry about.
•Why are we halting travel there is nothing to worry about.
•We just need to shut down for 2 weeks to slow the spread.
•Masks don’t work, stop buying them.
•Masks do work but only N95, cloth are worthless.
•Masks do work and everyone should be wearing them, including cloth masks.
•Hydroxy works.
•Hydroxy doesn’t work.
•The virus is totally natural.
•The virus may have been from a lab.
•There is no evidence that the virus isn’t a natural virus
•There is significant evidence that this virus is not be a natural virus.
•The hospitals are overrun.
•The hospitals are forced to lay people off.
•The vaccine is highly effective.
•The vaccine has no side effects.
•The vaccine needs a booster but is still highly effective.
•We will not be requiring vaccine passports, that’s a conspiracy theory.
•We will be requiring vaccine passports and if you protest you’re anti-vaccine.
Literally pick one. This is just going off memory, there are plenty more examples. There is a reason people are fed up with this absolutely disastrous handling of the pandemic and distrustful of our institutions and “experts”. Not once did they admit that they didn’t know. Everything that came out was released and widely regarded as unquestionable fact.. until sometimes as early as the next day. People have created memes of Fauci arguing with himself.
Did you? They talked down Coronavirus every step of the way until it was convenient to push a narrative.
If your state allows it, you can talk to your church or religious leader about getting a medical exemption. This might buy you some time. Some religions are anti Vax and some states do respect that. Unfortunately, other than that I do not believe anyone should force you to do it.
I feel sorry for you.
The choice of countries we have at the moment are
complete shitholes with a wholesale lack of respect for human rights and dignity.
Or mostly shitholes who are sliding in that direction.
Hopefully India isn't that bad as it seems.
Being a Martyr is the opposite of your situation. You selfishly don’t want to do something and the whole world has stated that everyone needs to do it to save the human race from it’s DNA being forever altered. You are scared. It’s ok to be scared or hesitant but the reason children are vaccinated before entering public schools (for the flu, chickenpox, measles, mumps, etc..) is so the entire class can make it to graduation. This is a “All for one, and One for All” situation. If some people keep resisting it allows more chances for the virus to keep mutating until the vaccine won’t work at all anymore, at which point you will have helped make the problem worse. Getting shots sucks.. but killing humanity by aiding it’s enemy is worse. Just get the darn shot. Then move on..
In the US you are of age rejecting the vaccine is your right (though I wouldn’t recommend it). Don’t know if Indian law is the same.
Really 😊
That really sucks
Actually there's no force from authorities. It's voluntary
You should examine why you feel that way, & examine if it's emotional or rational.
It's not just about you, but everyone else if you allow yourself to become a petri dish for variants to breed & morph into more variants.
You got vaccinated for school, right? (like all the ones young kids are suppose to have?)
The jab IS Delta. With UVBI, Ivermectin, chlorine dioxide, HCQ, and dozens of other effective treatments, the Sheetla Mata cultists wanting to put witchcraft in your veins are without excuse. They will have to answer for their contempt for HIPPA and Nuremberg. And that answer involves a rope and a tree.
You may need to move from India or go to the black market and get fake certification for the vaccine.
Best of luck, we all have to do our part in fighting tyranny & Medical Apartheid.
It's a question of saying: I don't want it but I take my responsibility.
You can be against vaccination but you harm others by not doing it so it has to happen. Close your eyes and take the shot (s) 😀
Stand on your principles. You're technically an adult, you can do what you want and nobody can force you.
At least the democratic party will not ostracize you now. Until it's time for the booster...
You are entitled to your choices for what you expose your body to (the vaccine)
But if you want people to accept that you have to accept that:
Others are entitled to their choices for what they expose their bodies to (the unvaccinated who may be a carrier and superspreader)
What's good for the goose is good for the gander
You simply avoid harmful and unGodly injections at all costs, regardless of the consequences. Place your faith in Jesus for comfort and possible spiritual advice
There is no reason to avoid vaccination. A lot of my friends lost their relatives because of coronavirus and because they weren't vaccinated. Believe me getting a coronavirus is much worse than getting a vaccine.
Just choose Pfizer or Moderna if you can, get 2 doses and live happily. If both your parents and society telling you to get vaccinated there is a serious reason behind this
Go off grid? Maybe rationalize with. them other options like living away from people. In forest with motorcycle, bike? Live in a car, van, Rv.. boat? The only way to avoid, is to. do just that.. Maybe youtube questions, choices, If shit hits the fan, I plan on living on a boat, free sea food, travel away from. danger, have fun, life to short to live in lockdowns on land, covid shots, depression.. Im set up to go off grid.
Put your foot down is what you do. Let them know you are not taking it and stand by that regardless what they think or say.
if you live outside the US and Israel then I dont think you have anything to worry about
Carry a flamethrower with you. Anyone mentions the word vaccine, tell them you are immune because of the flamethrower. Of course, you'll have to hide in shame once you get infected with covid because you didn't listen to good advice.
There is that. Sounds like a plan...
Sneak over to Mexico, adopt a Mexican accent and then come back over the border. They don't give a shit if THOSE people have covid or vaccines because that's RACIST!!
Besides, you're only 20!! You don't even need it!!
Oh! You're FROM India! are you there, now? There's a guy there that created a cure!! If you get covid, you should go see him!! As far as I know, he's giving it away!
just get it, it's safe and you can save a life (maybe your own)
to not get it is just selifsh
Depends where you live, but here we have to show proof of two vaccinations to enter a bloody cinema or supermarket. Just got my first one yesterday because there is no choice.
What do you do? Get the vaccine. Maybe avoid the Astra Zeneca and J&J jabs, considering your age and sex they're slightly more dangerous than crossing the road, but the others are even safer.
I'm not aware of anyone being forced to have the vaccination. Certainly not someone with all their faculties around them!
No one is allowed to force you on getting something injected inside your body without your acceptance...
They must respect your decision...
Get an exemption form or get a fake copy of PROOF OF VACCINATION
Just don't take it, it is in last instance your choice.
Bad choice, but yours.
You know it's not even a vaccine but just an experimental gene therapy
@Backstream tell us how you are privy to this information because you know, you are given Intel none of us living in reality have access to. How can you say this without proof? I have friends who are scientists. You are not qualified to have a valid opinion. While you're researching conspiracy theories on your toilet, my friends are trying to save lives in labs all day and night.
@Friendlybro79 , opinions are just that, opinions and everyone has a right to their own opinion, you aren’t the opinion police, you don’t get to say who can think what, but it does pin you down as a typical leftist control freak. I doubt also that you have friends AT ALL, let alone friends that are scientists. Go try to gas light somebody else chump.
@rcljr I'm not trying to control your opinion fool. I'm challenging your opinions which are just that opinions based in nothing. I'm trying to challenge you so maybe someone else says oh yeah this guy just says shocking things without proof. Maybe I should not take his opinion seriously. My opinion was formed based around the idea scientists and doctors in the majority saying get the shot. I'm not telling you to get it or think anyone should be forced. I think you should want to because it's the logical thing to do. I won't be bullied by dummies. You don't have the right to be so dumb that it kills others. That's why there are laws because not all people know what is right and wrong. I thought you were for law and order. Or like most right wingers you only observe the ones you like.
By laws i also mean to add mandates which are different. I'm referring to the one that the government we both pay taxes to said they can mandate vaccination and should. If you don't get it because you do have a choice then you'll have consequences. You're proof that you can't take care of yourself or others around you hence why mandates exist. Imagine if we knew we'd save lives with a vaccine and oooh wait we do know that. Well sorry if you're a non believer but you're opinion doesn't matter when it's false
@rcljr not impressed
Get the vaccine or never leave your house again 🤷🏻♀️ simple choice really.
You're right about one thing. You would need a stupid certificate if you don't get vaccinated. It's all about what you are doing for your fellow man.
You just simply avoid it. They can't make you get it. You're a 20 year old woman.
I didn't want to either but my career is more important. Just do it. Don't be stupid.
What is causing you to forcibly get it? Work? Travel? You aren't being too specific here.
I believe as of Yesterday, The Supreme Court in USA banned that One had to be Forced to Do this. xx
Do you know where you read it? Because a couple of weeks ago they "denied an application for an emergency writ of injunction against Indiana University’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate, upholding the rulings of the two lower courts.", meaning that IU can require covid vaccinations.
www.jurist.org/.../
this vaccine is a meme
we will live after the virus too to all the dummies
this virus won't kill you you all acting out
this virus isn't lethal for young people
@goaded I get it and yes you get a little chance but that doesn't mean we all should rush and get the vaccine because some people clearly don't want and its their choice we can't do anything and I am one of these people I know it might look weird to some people
but I choose this if I die fuck it its not like I enjoy life anyway lol
@DarkWinterNights How, exactly? You have the choice to do anything you feel like. Many of those things have consequences.
@goaded you think people don't know that? some of them are clearly aganst covid vaccine simply because its not old enough and how do you know its 100% safe? all you hear is 'the vaccine is safe' but you don't know unless ur the doctor and you know whats inside
just because doctors said whats inside doesn't mean its 100% you people shouldn't believe so much
@Jonny59 How many medicines have been given to over a billion people in their entire existance, let alone 12 months? Major problems with them (and bear in mind there are multiple alternatives) would have shown up when the numbers were in the millions. Getting out of bed isn't 100% safe, why is that where you set the bar? Why isn't reducing your chance of dying in the next 12 months worth it?
You say "you don't know unless ur the doctor", then, effectively, "don't believe the doctors" (who aren't pretending it's 100% safe, they're saying it's a lot safer than getting the virus).
@Lliam I'd say it takes one to know one, but you don't even think you're part of a cult, do you? More people will die without high take-up of the vaccines than with it, it's as simple as that. No propaganda, just simple, provable, obvious fact. It also significantly reduces the chance of getting long covid.
Choose to get it then you won’t be forced to get it
I doubt forced vax will ever be a thing. Required vax for public places might be. Your choice to become a hermit for your anti science views.
Watch out, doomer…mu is coming for ya.
And just like that, respect lost. I can't fathom the selfishness needed to refuse a vaccine meant to keep you and EVERYONE AROUND YOU safe. No shit society and your family won't respect it.
If it keeps you and everyone around you safe, why are you so worried about the people who don't get it? If you people are so worried about it get it yourselves to "protect" you from it and stop worrying about other people because you shouldn't have anything to fear if you're all vaxxed...
I lost 3 people to this virus. So seeing some entitled little shit refuse to get it for no reason, and putting other peoples lives in jeopardy, really pisses me off.
I can't imagine being that selfish. Imagine being the reason members of your family get sick and die, or friends, or a spouse, or your kids. I'm not a good person, but even I'm not that fucking selfish.
@Juxtapose The controversy is entirely fabricated.
You're 20 years old nobody can wash you to do anything at this point just stands your ground
Say you want it up the ass they have COVID suppositories
You don’t get it. Easy.
Now they are saying everyone going to get it and those with the shots are 8x better than those without the shots
Shrugs just take it. Not the end of the world.
I know your not a person who listens or reads or does anything a human with common sense does so i won't bother leaving you a link. But there is many that i could link you too proving that been vaxxed ageist something is way better than just letting your body fight it off. But again i know you don't bother to read nor accept the fact medical stuff is made to help us and works compared to it's just made for no reason.
Don't be a Karen. Nobody likes Karens.
Nobody likes dickheads, either.. but here you are.
Lol it's not forced silly
I will never get that shit
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