+1 yI don't really follow politics so on one hand, this is an uneducated, uniformed opinion. But on the other hand, the reason I don't follow politics is I figured out a long time ago it's pointless BS. One side blames the other, one administration might fix or ruin some aspect of policy, then the competition moves in and takes credit for the fix, or takes blame for the ruin, and everyone just spins the story to their own liking. It's a ridiculous waste of mental energy to follow and partake in this drama.
When it comes to the elections, I don't believe anything was "stolen". The system is faulty, but whatever. People vote the way they will, and maybe the count got messed up or something, but doubtfully in a meaningful way. And it doesn't matter anyway, whoever becomes president is just a puppet to sit there and tell people what they want to hear. Literally, there are entire campaign managers, speech writing teams, etc, whose job it is to find out what people will respond well to, then to feed that to the puppet's mouth for delivery.00 Reply
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+1 yI don't think it was stolen, but I do think social media and the main stream media covered and didn't cover a lot of stories that could of changed the outcome.
Much like the Hunter Biden story with the Ukraine being flagged as fake news but then later on found to be true and now it is on social media after the election.
Biden had a huge advantage in the media and online... liberals didn't care so long as Trump didn't win.
At the same time, one thing that has definitely come out of this, is that there is a severe lack of truck in elections in the USA.
To gain public trust, a audit should of been done in all 50 states... just to make sure that every vote was by a legal citizen, no dead people, no illegals, no any other way.
We hear there is no fraud, from liberals but at the same time they fight to prevent any audits. Yet this is the same group of people that in 2016 said there was fraud and launched a years long investigation into Trump.
Somehow its not fraud when their guy wins.
Until there is a system in place that can make sure 100% of the time, no illegals can vote, no dead people or any other type of fraud there will be lack of faith in the system.
If enough people don't believe in the system, that is when the USA will have a problem that could lead to a civil war.10 Reply
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m +1 y@BeMuse
Complete nonsense. All the Trumpster drama amounted to NOTHING. There was no fraud, there is no evidence of fraud and NO lawyer with half a brain is wasting his time for the lost cause of a sore loser. Just look at the kooks still trying to peddle the big lie, Giuliani is on his last leg, Sidney Powell is a nutjob and Mike Lindell can't tell his ass from a hole in the ground.
From FOX News (!) :
GOP Maricopa County audit confirms Biden 2020 victory in Arizona
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The final report, conducted by the cybersecurity consulting firm Cyber Ninjas, contained allegations of possible impropriety related to mail-in balloting and duplicate ballots but confirmed that the forensic audit found more ballots in favor of Joe Biden and less for former President Donald Trump than in November.
The ONLY reason that report was sent to the state's AG to verify, is, that Trump then has to direct his ire at him, when he verifies. It's just a game of hot potato.
All these other audits will end the same way, confirming Biden's win.02 Reply- +1 y
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There is nothing to "fix", what is there not to understand? A judge has to work with EVIDENCE. If there is no evidence for fraud and no credible witness for fraud, that probably means there is no fraud, yes? The Trumpster team lost more than SIXTY court cases, so it wasn't exactly for a lack of trying. Rather a sick and sad sense of reality denying. If some kooks try to dig themselves into a hole in front of a judge, it's up to them, but don't expect the judge to go along with it. - +1 y
There were over a thousand signed affidavits from people who witnessed voting irregularities. There were ballots that were clearly ran off a copy machine that were counted. All these ballots had no choice for the down ballot races and they all voted for Biden. A woman pol worker had taken photos of a van asking piles of ballots out of the back of the van and sneaking them into the polls. The judge could not see clearly that they were ballots so he just threw out the whole thing. Why not have the FBI investigate each of these claims instead of chasing every Trump supporter that was in Washington DC on Jan 6th?
Mostly, yes. It wasn't technically him, per se. He's just the monkey they placed in the driver's seat. But yes, I believe with 99% certainty that the election was rigged. I mean, I honestly think you have to be an idiot to NOT think there was at the very least, some funny business going on.
Oh, and the fact they literally f*cking admitted to doing so in TIME Magazine. People are dumber than pig sh*t though, which is why they even had the cheek to admit it, in the first place. Sheer f*cking hubris.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
50 Reply26.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. There was so much evidence and so many statistical abnormalities that the courts just did not want t ohear. They said the President had "no standing" What the hell does that even mean?
Besides that, nobody ever won an election on the platform of raising taxes, eliminating jobs and taking away your guns.33 Reply- +1 y
@normalice right, his platform was that he was going to unite this country. we have seen how good that turned out.
Obviously. Anyone with a IQ that exceeds mental retardation would have picked up on it election night. Thus why audits are underway in many states and an emergency order was executed with FEMA/DHS. Arizona conducted their audit and showed clear legally evidence that wide scale election fraud occurred. It is now going to the AG for legal prosecution in that state. Many other states will follow.
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@exitseven The idea is to weed out the corruption in all corners. For example, the state legislature of Arizona ordered the audit as was their constitutional right. They used their subpoena power to gather the evidence and passed it on to the Attorney General. So those that helped are clean. Those that impeeded the process are dirty. Now it is the Attorney General’s job to represent the public interest and enforce state laws by bringing charges against those who committed the crime according to the evidence and to represent the state before federal courts. Now we wait to see if they are clean. Many states are running in parallel weeding out corruption in their own states. When it gets to the federal level we will find out who is clean or dirty again… Not that we don’t already have a good idea… In the end, the military is probably the only way, but by the time we get to the last resort we will have evidence on everyone, and military tribunals aren’t something you want to fuck with. It’s not like regular court.
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@exitseven People are falling all around you, you probably just aren’t paying attention. Celebrities are going to jail. CEOs and Federal Reserve presidents are stepping down. Democrat representatives are being indited. Rothchild money managers are having random car crashes… Haitian diplomats connected to the Clinton Foundation human trafficking are stepping down. The list is long… Powerful people are dropping like flies.
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@exitseven Hunter Biden coped a plea bargain... White hats put the audio in the middle of one of Joe Biden's speeches to embarrass him... Skip to 1:16:30 or there about.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3mkoSWf0A&t=4570s
+1 yThere never did surface any decisive proof of that so no. I don't think so. Though strong indications of local elections did arise of dead people voting and such. Funny thing is though how Democrats were so smugly telling Conservatives to "suck it up like they did" when they did the exact same thing when Trump prevailed in 2016 and accused him of a "hijacked election".
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yWatching From the outside of the US, while it could not be proven that Joseph R. Biden Jr had 'stolen' 2020 General Election, it was obvious that the DNC/Democratic Party did everything in their power to bugger it up to the advantage of the Democratic Party and its candidates.
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+1 yIt wasn’t stolen but he is a lying POS all the same. He did steal if from Bernie though.
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Good point. Sanders was winning the primary before they nominated Biden.
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Yup, plus his sons emails just got confirmed as true. He did a favour for Libya to lift their sanctions in exchange for 2 million and also got Biden a private equity deal in China in exchange for something else. They’re corrupt to the core.
Add the fact Biden rose to power as the one who put 1/3 African Americans behind bars for petty drug possession while his son was a drug addict snd never faced charges.
Anonymous(18-24)+1 yEither the election was stolen, or the majority of voters really wanted a president with dementia. I'll let the Dems decide which one it was.
20 Reply8.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I don't think there's enough information to determine that.
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+1 yNo because republicans were already planning on saying that it was stolen if Trump didn’t win, Trump said it himself
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+1 yToo many irregularities to say it was a fair election.
10 Reply10.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Probably so
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yYes I do
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