How many believe there was wide range voting fraud for Biden to win in 2020 and that the outrage on Jan 6th was faked by establishment to cover ass?

[888theGreat]

How do they stop the counting with Trump up millions with 97% votes reported and a huge lead with 3% to count and Trump all the sudden lose by millions of votes? That means Trump didn't get one vote of the 3% left and the number would be more like 10% of the vote. Which means 107% vote counted.

Trump haters and liberal here say why did Republicans say no voter fraud. Easy Bush Republicans hated Trump and worked with Democrats to take election away from Trump.
That would be called the Establishment and Trump was most anti establishment president ever. They wanted to go back to business as usual. They killed Kennedy and cheated Trump.

How could Arizona say no illegals voted in elections , but every election before in Arizona reported 4 to 7% illegal aliens voted?

The protest on Jan 6th was a protest not a riot. I have seen church services more violent.
It was the establishment nervous over what they did and being called on it. So they invented the riots and insurgency to get population to back off and trying to scare the population.

1) Trump still got more votes than any Republican ever.
2) Biden campaign was worse ran campaign in history
3) He had Dementia and everyone knew it
4) Biden had no support at meetings and Trump had 100's of thousands

Anyone with common sense could see it was stolen a mile away.

Yes , their was a lot of fraud in 2020 elections to allow Biden to win

Yes , their was fraud in certain states but not as wide

There was no fraud , people like paying more taxes and letting illegals in country , and higher gas prices along with high inflation

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I can tell you two things for facts :

1) Kennedy entered the plaza and was not going to leave Dallas alive

2) Trump was not going to win 2020 Elections no matter what.

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The chances of Trump being up in 5 swing states with 97% of votes in with that big a lead and then losing all 5 states and then , losing two senate seats that Republicans held for 40 years would be like being hit by lighting twice in one week. Pretty much impossible.

[BeMuse]

There was shit tons of voter fraud in the 2020 election. It's been proven. Arrests and trials are ongoing. Additional audits and investigations continue. The wheels of justice turn slowly.

[Sevenpointfive]

i think there were states that should be prosecuted for election fraud

[nightdrot]

Voted "C." Though the fanciful answer provided on the ballot was not the reason for that vote. To be sure, the problems that were identified in the voting process will certainly anger a certain segment of the population and breed mistrust in Mr. Biden that will - and has - made it harder for the President to forge a consensus to govern. However, in any positive sense, Mr. Trump leaves no real legacy to which his supporters will turn - anger and mistrust hardly amounting to a forward policy agenda.

No doubt, the last minute changes that were made in voting procedures, nominally in the light of the COVID pandemic, made the risks of error and even corruption greater. Example, in 2016 there was, in one Georgia county (Fulton), a 4% error rate on ballots that year. This election - 0%. It does not take a trained statistician to realize that is statistically HIGHLY improbable and suggests some serious voter tallying problems that MAY have been spurred by, at least in part, corruption.

Suffice to say, this has raised eyebrows and even among Democrats, some 14% believe that the election was tainted. This will have some long terms ramifications in terms of the trust that the public invests in its institutions. This already being an increasingly serious problem in a populist era when the cultural mantra is that "elites" are "the Swamp" and the institutions they run - Congress, voting, etc. - are corrupt and oppressive.

Even then, there will be limits to such suspicion. After all, the same public that swears that it hates government and wants to return power to the people - this being a message on both the left and right of the populist spectrum - also merrily laps up government and then whines about its taxes.

That public has the following profile: 1 in 6 who works, works for government at the Federal, state or local levels. 1 in 7 is a Social Security recipient - and this will only grow as the population ages. 1/3 of all families, this year, will receive some form of transfer payment. All this and, of course, the instant the pandemic hit, the public stampeded to that government of the elite to find a solution. All this, by the way, while 47% of ALL Americans pay NO Federal taxes at all - even as they gripe about high taxes.

Suffice to say, distrust of the powerful elites and the "swamp" will have its' own self-correcting mechanism in the public's ferocious appetite for government and its willingness - as expressed in the national debt - to live beyond their means.

Throw in that Mr. Biden is, in terms of his populism, Mr. Trump only with a "D" after his name. Neither man has a consistent policy agenda and thus will leave no real policy/ideological legacy in the way that Franklin D. Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan did.

The Reagan era came to an end with Mr. Trump's election - after all, Mr. Clinton declared the era of big government to be over and Mr. Obama could not even get the public option into his watered down health care plan out of a Democrat Congress. However, as yet nothing has filled the gap beyond Mr. Trump's blatant and Mr. Biden's more quietly expressed vituperation.

Put it simply, there is a gap in American public discourse that - right now - is "filled with sound and fury signifying nothing." So it looks to remain for the foreseeable future, whatever the vote counting issues of the hour.

[MCheetah]

Honestly, there was very likely fraud in 2016 too, but not enough to beat Trump. Hillary had a huge meltdown on election night once she lost, damaging all kinds of sh*t. Hillary also barely bothered with campaigning and called half the country Deplorables. Even against Trump, that kind of sheer arrogance suggests she was so sure she was going to win, that some dirty business probably happened, but it wasn't enough.

Flash forward to 2020 and they overcompensated with Biden, cheating WAY TOO MUCH and very much in the open. But I bet even they are surprised by how easily it got swept under the rug and how little people cared. Outside of January 6th, they got away with complete and utter election fraud, scott-free. Not even the American people care nowadays.

That's when I lost all hope that the US can be saved. People will riot for some scumbag killing himself on Fentanyl, but not for their actual rights and freedoms as Americans. The US is so screwed, especially once China inevitably declares war on everyone.

[exitseven]

There was very little effort made to investigate any of the allegations of fraud. The one that remember was in Georgia and a poll worker observed a white van showing up at the polling place and boxes of ballots were unloaded. She took videos of this with a cellphone. She had been a poll worker for many years and was not a Republican. She took this evidence to the county commissioners. They looked at it and lackadaisically said that they could not tell what those pieces of paper were. It was obvious that they had no interest in getting to the truth.

[Kyle-Jackson78]

think about this, have you met someone IN REAL LIFE that voted for biden? 74% of my state "Voted" for biden, bUt everyone here hATES him, EVeryone in my school does, IN stores, Trucks with trump flags, i genuinely have not met a person that voted for person in real life, hell even the lesbians several door downs voted for trump and have trump flags, I have 2 trump flags on my truck as well.

[exitseven]

I live in a state that is ground zero for moonbats. A year ago I heard there would be a Trump boat parade on a particular Saturday during the summer of 2020. I was going to the beach anyway so I wanted to check it out. I expected maybe a few dozen boats. It turns out I had to park a quarter of a mile away and there were over two thousand boats, some of them large yachts and sailboats, and thousands of people lined the beach many holding American flags and Trump banners. I realize there was no way Trump was going to win in this state but just the display of support speaks volumes about how this election was rigged.

[Anonymous]

We all watched when they stopped counting and when they covered the windows so the counting couldn't be observed. Any person with an IQ higher than a rock knows if rolls were reveresed and this happend to liberals, we would of had something that makes January 6th look like childs play.

[Anonymous]

I don't think there was much actual "fraud".
I think there was a lot of *impropriety*.
Then there was also a lot of propaganda against Trump and suppression of information bad for Joe Biden. e. g All other things the same, polling shows that if people had known about the Hunter Biden laptop story and all the stuff coming out about Hunter and Joe at the time then enough people would have changed their vote to flip the election.

[888theGreat]

Trump votes were destroyed , misplaced , and changed. Information covered up is also fraud

[Opinion Owner]

"Trump votes were destroyed , misplaced"
That falls under impropriety.

"Changed" would be fraud, I don't think there was much of that.

Covering up is not fraud, it's just covering up.

Fraud is something very specific and that's why the left always frame this as "there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election". Because it's very specific language which lets them weasel around the problems: There was some fraud but it wasn't "widespread", and then there was widespread impropriety but that's not fraud. By saying "widespread fraud" they're purposefully dodging all the real problems and all the media deception.

[Jesuswasahue]

I think Trumpeters are loud, and their volume made it seem like it was true. But it was not.

Like a child crying in a fine dining restaurant.. Everyone asks why the fuck they are there, and everyone knows who they are. But the majority just want to enjoy an adult beverage, and a meal that you need to chew.

In case you didn't understand, you are the baby.

[normalice]

There wad no fraud. They just know lying about your self worth is the only way to get you worthless trolls to vote for them, since no one else will vote for them.

[jshm2]

Zero - unless it's some meth head Qanon nut.

Not a SINGLE case of voter fraud was proven in a court of law.

[888theGreat]

Because they all refused to hear the case , afraid of BLM burning down the country

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes it was. The earth is flat too. No human will ever die. Gravity isn't real. The sky is actually purple. Drinking gasoline is healthy for the body.

Believe whatever the hell you dummies desire.

[Surely]

By this time. Fraud will probably be impossible to prove for 2020. Will need to look at future elections and do things to prevent it from happening again!

[888theGreat]

Same voting machines and no changes , so it is going to happen again in 2022 and I know in 2024

[IncognitoBandito]

There was no fraud, just one group of idiots rioting to give another group of idiots an excuse to whine and gesticulate ad nauseum.

[888theGreat]

Like all the Democrats were rioting in that summer which more people got killed and businesses were looted , with many firs and burning of buildings

[Anonymous]

There was voter fraud/election rigging during the primary, so no reason the same thing didn't happen during the primary.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q7_II5SHwLs

[OddBeMe]

Bullshit bullshit bullshit.

Funny how 2016 wasn’t fraudulent.

[Anonymous]

It's been proven many times there was no fraud. Only meth has QAnoner's still think there was

[888theGreat]

and chicken shits like you that use anon

[Opinion Owner]

Put the pipe down

[888theGreat]

quit playing with yourself and put it back in your pants

[Gal67]

No, I don't believe in batshit crazy conspiracy theories. I prefer the truth, what's actually real.