Why is it whenever women flaunt their body's then they are being "confident" but whenever a man does it then it is cringy and cocky?

[Anonymous]

Sexism

Something else

[normalice]

The thing that is cringey when men do it is that the men doing it are operating under the assumption that women are susceptible to wanting what they see like men are. In other words, gay men flaunt their bodies to attract other men. Doing it to attract women is "barking up the wrong tree."

[anylolone]

And they are right to assume it.

[normalice]

Not really.

[anylolone]

Actually, they are, in my personal experience they are.

[normalice]

I'm answering under the assumption that the asker's premise is true (that women find it cringey). If you're suggesting that is not the case maybe do so in your own response? I don't know what you have riding on it but I can in good conscience claim to be interested.

[anylolone]

Yes, but instagram isn't filled with male thots who's whole job is flaunting their bodies with massive audiences for no reason. A good chunk of the music industry is nothing but that as well.
And movies.

[anylolone]

Also, women aren't alone in having some bullshit they say which is easily refuted.
Men say some bullshit that's outright cringy.

[normalice]

You're combining the cause and effect. The reason Instagram isn't filled with male thots is because there are no massive audiences who want to see it. I assure you if millions of women regularly drooled over shirtless men, Instagram would be full of shirtless men.

[anylolone]

It's filled with male thots.

You don't have female friends? You don't know what they see on instagram?
Let's not forget the male thots on youtube.

I even recommended to my male friends to do more thottery on such sites to help with their dating prospects. And then see my female friends simp, lol!

And instagram is filled with shirtless men. Well, was, I don't use stuff from facebook anymore.

"But I don't see it" you aren't the market, remember, they keep everyone in an echo chamber.

[normalice]

You just said it want filled with male thots. Make up your mind.

[anylolone]

"isn't filled with male thots who's whole job is flaunting their bodies with massive audiences for no reason."

Can you understand the expression "Jeff bezos isn't rich for no reason" doesn't mean jeff bezos isn't rich?

[normalice]

Right. They dont get paid because their is no demand. Is this confusing you?

[anylolone]

Man, you don't understand a simple expression.

Bezos is rich, but he isn't rich for no reason, do you understand the expression?
Meaning, the reason why bezos is rich is not nothing.

Did you got that simple expression?

Now, apply to what I said, they do get paid, have massive followings for nothing more than showing their bodies. And it's not even that lewd because it's instagram, of course.

[normalice]

So you're saying men get paid a whole lot for their pictures but they also get a second job? I mean, I'm asking but not because I want to know. I'd just like you to get your story straight for your own sake. You seem to take this matter real seriously. I don't understand why but I would like you to be consistent anyway.

[anylolone]

"they also get a second job"? what, where did you get that?

A lot of "upstarting" instragram models, gosh, even full models (I had a fling with one once) actually have second jobs, I'm not talking about those.

[normalice]

I no longer have any idea what the point you're trying to get across might be.

[anylolone]

What I'm trying to get across is that there's whole industries of male eye candy designed exclusively to cater to women.

[normalice]

Again, that's rejecting the asker's premise, which warrants it's own opinion instead of running in circles under someone else's.

[anylolone]

It's not his premisse, he's asking because supposedly it's other people's premisses.

[normalice]

His premise is that it is other people's premise. Yes. If you think it it not, then it would be more expedient to say so in your own opinion.

[Soteris]

Then dont do it in a cringy or cocky way? There is nothing inherently "cringy" or "cocky" about a man flaunting his body so if it comes across like that then you are probably doing it wrong.

[Flower7]

Women get criticized for flaunting their bodies also.

[anylolone]

Not as much and not with the same tone.

[Somegirl408]

i never found it cringy what do u mean

[John_Doesnt]

Because the men who do it are usually fat.