How unattractive men are supposed to feel "confident" when women themselves SHATTER that confidence?

[Anonymous]

[GracefulCharm]

Dating is a two way aspect. Just because you find her attractive doesn't mean she finds you attractive. Sometimes it goes the other way too.

I can tell from your attitude towards women from your comments and your idea of confidence that you will be seen as unattractive to many women. People in general don't find their date attractive when their partner's self worth is reliant on them. So if your confidence is based on women accepting you. That's not really confidence at all. It's blaming women for them having a different idea of what they find attractive in a man compared to what you think is attractive in a man for women. isn't that unreasonable? It is their choice on what they find attractive in a man right? You can't blame them for that. It would be wise for you to listen to them and figure out what they like in a man.

[MScifiwriter]

That was a very interesting video, although I only watched the first 7 minutes so far. In all honesty feeling confidence comes from within. Regardless of the person's gender they can look more attractive by eating well and getting physically fit. In both men and women if they aren't considered attractive by the same or opposite gender, than they may simply need to work on their fitness.

[hasrett]

Do you expect girls to tell you you're hot even if you aren't just to boost your confidence? Yeah, it won't happen. Confidence comes from within, not from what other people say.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Seen it when women are attracted, they will flood him in compliments even if they aren't true. So whether it's expected or not doesn't mean it isn't likely to happen to an attractive male.

[hasrett]

@Wwwyzzerdd
Also, you're flooding women with compliments because YOU feel like we need them, and that only say something about your character, not ours.
Also, your own reply is kinda contradictory both to reply itself and your question.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I don't think you read what I wrote.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Your attempt to turn the script around on me... I don't even see the logic of your argument. You don't make any sense.

[hasrett]

Of course you don't see the logic, that's the whole point, otherwise you wouldn't be replying.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Well since your stooping to the lowest level by throwing insults I'm out

[hasrett]

@Wwwyzzerdd I don't see any insults... but whatever.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

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[hasrett]

Well now you really showed me.

[GracefulCharm]

A women who floods compliments for a man she likes but doesn't think is true is manipulative and a bad girl to date or marry. A women with integrity would not do that.

Don't give compliments if you don't think they are true. Doesn't matter if you are a man or women. It's wrong.

Also attractive women deal with the same shit attractive men deal with. Stop generalizing women and men. I'm not like a lot of men. And I've noticed too many different women to group them all as one thing.

[Krumpir]

You better say I am hot! Or else...

[hasrett]

I don't understand what's happening here anymore. 😂

[Krumpir]

If you don't say I am hot, you can forget the pancakes I promised to you!!

[hasrett]

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[Krumpir]

Hahahahaha I soooo freaking love her

[mak_1]

Maybe by doing things themselves to feel more confident... Why would anyone rely on someone else to make them feel good about *themselves*?

[Wwwyzzerdd]

...

Did you just advocate MGTOW?

[mak_1]

No, I advocated having some self-esteem and an idea of your own worth.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Doing things alone, increasing self esteem via accomplishments, creating self worth... Those are all MGTOW tenants.

[mak_1]

Actually, they’re the tenants of confidence. Let’s not get it twisted.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Whatever floats your boat.

[TheUsername27]

''Why would anyone rely on someone else to make them feel good about *themselves*''
Pretty sure most women rely on attention and compliments. Don't get me wrong I'm sure they despise them unless it's coming from a hot male... but if they stopped you have a big bunch of insecure females lol.

[mak_1]

@TheUsername27
I didn’t say that women didn’t rely on attention or compliments. I don’t, and wondered why people do since someone is always going to have a problem with how you look or behave. If you’re happy with yourself, nothing that anyone even says will matter to you.

[GracefulCharm]

Mgtow is a extreme belief that all women are the same ones you find in clubs. You could formulate that belief if you worked a job where all your co workers were men and you went to clubs and bars on your days off to meet women. I can understand why a lot of those men would be frustrated with the women they meet. The club's and bars promote a environment that give good looking women a advantage over men. Men constantly being rejected by good looking women or being used would feel bitter. These women don't represent all women tho. I find coffee shops have a more reflective environment of down to earth women. The ones who would be great wives. They would view their men as equals. Club girls view themselves as above men. Well why wouldn't they? Men constantly buy them drinks, use their wealth to impress them and brag about their wealth.

[ChronicThinker]

Sorry but, people are allowed to not find you attractive. Get over it and find someone who tolerates your looks or likes it even.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Hypergamy: the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I'm using this as a key reference to respond to why Transgenders are not entitled to sex with straight men for the exact same reason in your first sentence.

[Juxtapose]

You're a man and thus are treated as disposable garbage while women are cherished as these wonderful goddesses to be worshiped. Your word will be valued less, your looks will be valued less, your effort will be valued less and your very life will be valued less.

You gotta be able to stand on your own because unlike women, you don't have white knights and these things called "beta orbiters" kissing your ass all the time. You gotta be tough and git gud.

[fpmsn]

A men doesn't care what other people's think, if a girl can shatter your confidence you deserve that and it means that she is stronger than you and all the attraction was lost. Adults shouldn't be offended by words, that is why some words are called adult language. Put yourself in first place please

[Anonymous]

Women aren't trying to make you feel confident. They're trying to make sure they don't end up with a loser. Because that would be bad for them. So they're going to test their guy to make sure he's not a loser. The higher quality the woman, the higher the hurdle for the guy to get her. It's pretty simple really. If you want to make it over the hurdle you need to appeal to the girl. And for that, confidence helps.

[castratedwhiteguy]

Yup! The 80/20 rule certainly apples here and it gets even worse! Witness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0m_GVG3Oxo

[karahiri]

Probably not a good idea to get confidence from an outside source.

[Anonymous]

From what I know is that most good looking girl woudn't be in long term realtionship with good looking guys
Second I am average and still attract women though I improved my confidence only this year.
And just good-looking might fail when being in a relationship with a girl.

Stop brainwashing yourself with shit like that

[levantine99]

you can't generalise "women". there are dumb bimbo sluts, and bookworm gurus, not everyone is in the same basket.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Where is this magical realm of women who aren't like that?

[levantine99]

@Wwwyzzerdd they persistently avoid the places you hang around... .

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Is that a hint of pettiness I detect?

[TheUsername27]

This bitch knows nothing lol ignore her.

[levantine99]

@TheUsername27 may the virgin force be with you bitter boi.

[TheUsername27]

yh defo a virgin haha. Only insult girls use on here, so weak.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

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[GracefulCharm]

On Friday. Go to a coffee shop. Go to a event that caters to your hobby. Go to places other than bars and clubs. Stop going into environments that feature the stuck up women you don't like.

[GracefulCharm]

Also. Even if you dont look attractive. If you have a good sense of humor and positive personality. That is attractive and more important than physical appearance. Obviously a woman would prefer you to be masculine and disciplined. But I've seen lots of fat ugly friends of mine date girls that were attractive. Money helps too but the bottom line is you need a personality that they love.

[lilaqua]

This kind of shit makes dating in general really off-putting.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Now you know why some men don't seem that into dating.

[lilaqua]

@Wwwyzzerdd no it's not the girls, it's the guys

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Yeah cause women totally don't damage men then when some other woman has to deal with him it's all complaints mmhm yep

[lilaqua]

@Wwwyzzerdd wonderful, blaming women as a whole for damaging men. Some women can also be seriously damaged by men in relationships, i've seen it happen, heck I've kind of experienced it, but I don't just place the blame on men and complain. Why this makes dating so offputting is because it reduces it to a matter of "getting the hottest chick you can" and basically ignoring the girls that might be on their level attractiveness wise. When I look for a partner my goal isn't "i want a hot guy to fuck" it's "I want that guy to fuck/date", it's centered around them as an individual and their personality. It seems like I am effectively nothing to a man apart from a vagina, so what's the point?

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I was raised by feminists.

[lilaqua]

@Wwwyzzerdd you had shitty parents fine, but we all have a damage.

[Fallahad]

You feel confident by becoming something to be confident about. You obviously won't feel confident overnight by making yourself believe you are what you aren't

[Anon-ymous1]

Those girls in the black bikinis aren't even hot; their asses are too big.

[Sha84]

diet and exercising will help you

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Still getting passed for a Chad

[Sha84]

what is "Chad"

[Wwwyzzerdd]

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