Religious exemptions to the COVID-19 vaccine?

[Twalli]

Hiw can you have a religious reason to not get the COVID-19 vaccine when you didn't have one or seek one for any other vaccine? You haven't changed your religion.

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I mean, obviously if you've sought one for every vaccine then you may have the right to get one, orherwise no so mich.

[Levin]

We really had no choice for the majority of them as they were pumped into us when we're 8 weeks old.

I don't see how it is possible to provide informed consent then, or for any of them really. Even at 14 years old you're still heavily indoctrinated and unable to think for yourself. At least I was. These were pre-internet days too. Now children thankfully have more access to knowledge and information.

And yes, I'd say I have a spiritual exemption from these injections. I don't want any toxic and experimental shite pumped into my sacrosanct body.

Having said that, one should not need to invoke one's religion to get away from these at best dubious shots.

[Twalli]

Does uourvright yo choose superceded my right to live?

[Levin]

I don't see how the two are related?

As the adverts in the UK say, 'you can still pass it on even if you've been double jabbed'.

[Levin]

In any case, these are still experimental and (arguably) dangerous vaccines, where a large number of deaths and adverse incidents have been reported. Therefore, does your 'right to live' supersede my right to live by having something dangerous and un (longterm) tested pumped into me, against my will, from a corporate manufacturer who has no liability or responsibility for any harms caused. Not withstanding the conflict of interest between the profit motive and health.

[Twalli]

There are 0 deaths linked to the vaccine. People have died after taking the vaccine. More people have died after taking a shit so if we apply the logic you're using, taking a shit is far more dangerous than the vaccine and I k kwon you've been doing that activity for years, probably at least once a day. The #1 reported effect from the vaccine is not being dead. A higher success rate than Ivermection. As for the dangers, even if you don't trust the manufacturers why do you also doubt every major religious and political leader? Even Trump took it.

[Levin]

I've no interest in any political, religious or even scientific, leader. I certainly don't have any respect for Biden or Trump. They've all proven themselves wholly corrupt.

There are many deaths linked to the vaccines. Just because people want to shut their ears from it, and don't want to hear it, doesn't make it not true.

This whole 'it's not been proven linked to the vaccine' is all very convenient. Even a CEO of pfizer would probably struggle to look themselves in the mirror after saying that, so I don't know why the general public is so protective of a corrupt corporate entity. It was like the woman who made a video about her brother who had died from taking the vaccine, and she said he'd still want people to take it (maybe he wouldn't because he'd still be alive if he didn't take it). I can only chalk it down to systemic and systematic brainwashing, from infancy.

Every belief system that we find ourselves in is fallible. Not to acknowledge that is extremely dangerous.

[Twalli]

Again most people die after taking a shit at least once, so if you really want to stay safe wouldn't avoiding that be smart?

[Levin]

On the topic of religious exemptions, if this video is correct, then it seems there would be a case (aborted fetal cells):

davidicke.com/.../

[ArrowheadSW]

I am wondering if there really are any religions that "officially" don't want their members to get the vaccine. I mean as an official stance. Not just some members saying they don't want it on religious grounds. I am curious, because you do hear of people who say they are refusing on the basis of religion.

[Twalli]

Amish and Christian scientists come to mind. The amish live in a very enclosed society and have almost no contact outside of it. Therefore they aren't exposed to many things that we are. Because of that most vaccines that we get regularly they stop once finishing 8th grade (the mandatory education for them).
Christian scientists believe that everything is determined by God. If you get sick it is God's will. You will get better only if God wants you to. Medicine is the work of Sayan and by taking it you are trying to avert the will of God. I don't actually know if they oppose vaccines but since they oppose the entire medical and scientific community it would make sense.

[ArrowheadSW]

Ah OK... I didn't think about the Amish. I did just now look up the Christian Science stance on their official webpage. It says that members are free to make any life choice, including vaccines. So they have no official stance against vaccines. But I can see why you would say that.

So far it seems like it is individual religious people, or maybe individual churches within a particular religion, that oppose it.

Heck, even the Pope came out encouraging people to get vaccinated! LOL...

[Twalli]

I am not saying that they're against it officially, but based on the specific overall belief system I can see a religious exemption granted. Sikhs (thosecwho don't cut their hair) have some hardliners that won't seek medical attention or get vaccines because they also believe that everything is God's plan. They don't cut their hair because if God wanted you to have short hair, he would have done it.

[ArrowheadSW]

I wonder how a religious exemption would be requested, and granted. Would an employer ask for some sort of official letter from a minister in the person's religion, stating that it is against their religion? It seems like anyone who doesn't want the vaccine, can just say that it is against their religion, whether it is or not.

[Twalli]

There's a form you have to fill out to apply for one.

[sawno]

The mark of the beast theorie claims that the mark is mandatory to participate in society. This is not the case for other vaccines.

At the same time these are artificially engineered cocktails of chemicals not a weakened natural virus.

So if your religious belief contains either then that is where the distinction is made. And of course for a large majority of them they don't take the other vaccines either.

[Twalli]

Actually most do. Also no major religion says tlyou shouldn't. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism don't say you shouldn't take the vaccine. All major religious leaders tell their followers to get vaccinated.

[sawno]

I specifically mentioned groups that do not take it on religious grounds I'm not making a more general analysus here.

[rcljr]

I just became a Mormon/Hutterite/ mennonite/ agnostic/ Scientologist/ Jew yesterday, so I don’t have to get vaxxed, how are you going to prove any different? Answer: you’re NOT, mind your own fucking business, get your jab, STFU and quit trying to control everyone else you libtard democrap anal retentive rectally centered control freak.

[Twalli]

I'm not a Democrat and ai have doubts about liberalism

[rcljr]

Let me clear it up for you… LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

[Twalli]

It's a political philosophy as is conservativism, capitalism, fascism, communism, socialism, nazism, etc. Actually having something recgonize by the DSM as a mental disease (although I don't think it qualifies) informs me you're an asshole.

[rcljr]

Well, that cleared up any doubts about you being a liberal, so you’re a troll, and a flan stupid one at that.

[Twalli]

Actually I don't ascribe to any political philosophy. If you have to have a label for me I guess I could be a Utilitarian Consequntalist.

[EnglishEuropean]

What religion prohibits you from being vaccinated? Serious question. by the way I don't consider Alex Jones a religion.

[Twalli]

Christian scientists and Amish people are the ones I see most commonly qualifying.

[CreamySeed]

We shouldn't even need a religious exemption. Unfortunately the state normalized tyranny and we all just accept it lying down like it’s normal.

[CreamySeed]

And no, you can't drag precedent in here “bUt tHe SuprEme CoUrt RuLed” blah blah blah the supreme court is just a panel of men I dont take their opinions as Gods and neither should anyone else.

[Twalli]

It isn't a panel of men. There are women in SCOTUS. RBG wasn't the only one.

[CreamySeed]

I kinda meant mankind or peoplekind if we are to be PC

[BigAFRO]

I'm Muslim so. I'm ok

[Twalli]

In what way?

[BigAFRO]

Pork, and dead fetus are in the vaccines. And no needle shall touch my skin Tattoo or vaccine

[Twalli]

So why are imams recommending their people to get it?

[joeldalton]

How do you know they got other vaccines?

[Twalli]

Because their religious affiliation before the COVID-19 and the fa CD t they attend ed d school without a religious exemption. Matters of public record. Religious exemptions for vaccines of school children is not considered PHI.

[joeldalton]

You have no proof of that. Good try, though.

[Twalli]

At my fingertips, no. Easily available to me, yes.

[Snakeyes7]

First amendment

[Twalli]

People a BSing a religious reason bbn to not get it

[Snakeyes7]

What gives you the right to tell people what god they worship? There are some people who believe in a flying spaghetti monster for crying out loud.

[Twalli]

Every major religious leader is in favor of vaccinations.

[Snakeyes7]

Yeah but those are the more major religions. Who knows what other religions exist?

[Twalli]

Granted, but they never indicated that they follow a more obscure religion. Especially if they are regular worshippers.