Do you think the usa should have free health care?

[Anonymous]

[BCA6010]

You mean taxpayer-funded healthcare? No such thing as "free" healthcare.

If the US were to do that, it would need to pretty much annihilate the health insurance industry, and almost every company in the country would have to revise their pay and benefits policies. At face value, that's not necessarily a bad thing, but knowing the US government, there is no way in hell this would ever be executed with competence... Or good intentions.

The actual problem though is it would inevitably end up turning into a very watered down healthcare system in terms of quality, and especially if you have reached a point of being a retired or too disabled to work individual, you WILL get sidelined with basically cheap painkillers until you die. So for example since the typical retirement age in the US is 65, pretty much anyone 65 or older would get shafted as a general rule. Lots of people don't know that the US does in fact but a cash value on the life of its citizens (and non-citizens...) and a government-run healthcare system here would be best described as doing the bare minimum necessary to keep you working and paying taxes, and if you don't fall into that category for any reason... Live life while you can, because nobody will be coming to save you.

[kholland65]

Do doctors work for free? No. Healthcare is not a right, no more than shelter, food, and water is a right. you have a right to safety, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You don't not have a right to free goods and services. If you want high quality health care, you need to earn it, and you need to plan for it, just like everything else in life.

If you chose not to work hard enough, make proper financial choices, invest in your long term wealth, insure your house, and keep up with it's maintenance, should I be forced to help you pay for a new home so you're not homeless when you default and are under water on your home?

Free healthcare means less available and lower quality care. There is no such thing as free where the quality doesn't go down. Not to mention those costs have to be paid for my tax payers, so eveyone just gets more poor because which doesn't solve the fundamental problem. Now you've simply forced all people to spend more money towards their healthcare regardless of whether they needed it or not.

[Jessica405]

It would be ideal, like our NHS in UK. It would be paid for out ot taxes. It should be cheaper than insurance as you cut out the profit made by insurance companies.

It is like road infrastructure. Like schooling. Paid out of general taxation, for the benefit of all.

[wankiam]

problem in america though is that they see that as 'communist''. i personally think their system sucks but its culturally embedded to only look after oneself over there which is why it would be so difficult to roll out. the irony of course is that they are happy to pay an average of 3000 quid a year for every single American towards their defence budget... not joking

[Jessica405]

@wankiam Very true! They are quite happy to have state funded roads. State funded healthcare is not much different in financial terms. I feel it is more problematic for Republicans.

[supercutebutt]

Everybody pays in, everybody gets covered. Of course.

[joeldalton]

Glad you’re willing to pay for the healthcare of people who won’t get the covid shots.

[supercutebutt]

@joeldalton I am not. They probably don't pitch in. Most stupid people are poor :(

[joeldalton]

Oh, so everyone gets healthcare but poor people. Got it.

[Asker]

I'm watching you sleepy joe

[joeldalton]

lol. weirdo.

[supercutebutt]

@joeldalton They will get it as they do now, doofus. It's called Medicaid. You should know, as you strike me as a dopey and poor individual. :)

[Asker]

Yes thinking it be medicaid for all with. 2-5% tax raise on everyone even the rich

[joeldalton]

oh, so then people without a covid shot get healthcare that you pay for. Just making sure you're crystal clear.

[Asker]

Lol my brother has the covid-19 shot and is current sick as hell with covid so stick it up your butt

[joeldalton]

Asker - are you schitzo?

[Asker]

No no

[OlderAndWiser]

Free? How can it be free? How can you bold hospitals and doctors' office without paying for land, labor, and materials? How can you convince doctors, nurses, and techs to work for free? Where can you find free medications?

What do you mean "free" health care? It's not free.

[NamerOfStars]

"Free healthcare" doesn't exist. If it's government subsidized, then it's paid for with taxes, which, in the US, would crush most people. If you'd advocate some kind of buy-in system, where the contributions of many offset the enormous costs raised by a certain few, well, that's exactly what we have, in the form of health insurance.

Would it be nice if healthcare was more affordable? Absolutely. But I have yet to hear a plan for that hear that would actually work- without forcing the rest of the first world to abandon THEIR healthcare systems.

[Diodoro]

There is no path to free healthcare that is constitutional.

At the end of the day, free Healthcare is the premise that Healthcare is a right. A right is something that can be forced on others. Saying free Healthcare is the same as saying right to free Healthcare, which ultimately means you're saying you have a legal entitlement to the labor of your doctor.

Aka slave labor. He cannot refuse to do a procedure. You can force him to work for you because you have a right to Healthcare.

Disregarding the fact doctors became doctors to make money. In what context can we say you have a right to another man's work? In a way that is constitutional.

[NorthwestRider]

The United States has the worst Healthcare system among developed nations

[Diodoro]

@NorthwestRider k.

And?

[ChrisMaster69]

Yeah it should.

Its the land of the Free, if you have the cash to pay for it.

yeah okay it means we pay for it from taxes, but it’s then free at the point of use.

Not only does the NHS provide very great care and world class services but also you get things such as free counselling.

imagine suffering from mental health issues and not being able to pay for counselling.

i think the majority of the developed world are moving towards universal health care.

Admittedly I still have BUPA and my insurance covers a lot, however that’s more of a company perk than anything.

https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/countries-free-healthcare.php

what’s the going rate for having a baby in the US?

Its free in the UK

[Lliam]

No. I used to think so, but I've come to realize that it's a trap, just like Obamacare. It would give government control over our health and freedom.

I'm in favor of getting private money out of our health system. Make all hospitals non-profit, regulate the shit out of them, end the AMA dictatorship, and severely cut the profits allowed to pharma companies. End health insurance or at least make those companies nonprofit, too. Much of the cost of medical care is driven by insurance.

Doctors used to be allowed to practice medicine free of coercion. Hospitals and colleges used to be affordable before privatization and deregulation.

[NorthwestRider]

The United States has the worst Healthcare system among developed nations

[Anonymous]

It won’t be free unless hospitals and doctors do the work for free. What you’re asking for is single-payer healthcare, which is very expensive. You are 100% guaranteed to pay higher taxes on everything (inflation if the expenses are not funded through taxes). You are also more likely to face healthcare shortages and rationing since this is a service funded by the government and government funding is not always a guarantee and cuts are made frequently. Once you reach a certain age, you will no longer be seen as viable and no government will pay for a 97-year old to receive treatment when they aren’t working or paying taxes so they will simply deny treatment.
Overall, I think it’s a great idea.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I do. The U. S. is the only industrialized nation in the world which does not have universal healthcare for all citizens. This is despite the U. S. Declaration of Independence stating that its citizens have the right to life. If America would only tax their wealthy to contribute their fair share to the nation, like everyone else does, then we could have universal healthcare. But greed and corruption prevent it. I love my country, but it does have flaws that we should fix.

[bolverk]

No such thing as 'free' heath care, I doubt that the US would go for the way It is done in the UK where everyone working pays a tax called 'National Insurance' which funds the National Heath Service. In America the Insurance Companies/Big Pharma would have a collective fit as the prices of operations, drugs, and services would come under of a state agency.

[888theGreat]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay. When they pay a lot , they cut back. when they cut back there is less spending and buying , and people get laid off. So every "free" things costs jobs in the end. Taxes are not free. National Debt is not free. Don't believe the professors that tell you things can be free. How does a Doctor get paid if Healthcare is free or a nurse. How does the home builder get paid?

[Tabasco25]

A: nothing is for free
B: government shouldn't be involved in healthcare
C: although it would be a nice thing to have , once system is set up it's hard to take down if it becomes corrupt.
D: its a safty net not a comfy couch.
E: since it's free probably going have a lot more issues of "we won't cover this".

in my opinion

[dustybiker]

Of course. It would also stop the scamming so many doctors offices do when not properly billing insurance companies, instead going after patients and causing legal issues.

[Frank_Woods]

No such thing as a free lunch. What would be nice is for tax money to go to subsidizing healthcare as opposed to social programs and foreign nation building.

[joeldalton]

Ooh, free healthcare sounds great. All we need is to have doctors, nurses, support staff work for free, all of their medical supplies and equipment should be given to them by the respective manufacturers for free. Cities should donate utilities for free. There shouldn’t be taxes on any medical facility.

[exitseven]

There is no such thing as free healthcare. We all pay for it. But yes, the magical healthcare fairy should come and wave her magic wand and give us all free healthcare.

[NorthwestRider]

The United States has the worst Healthcare system among developed nations

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes. The richest country in human history doesn't grant its citizens free Healthcare not because it can't but because it doesn't desire too.

Free Healthcare doesn't make money sense for the greedy.

[jennifer_bloom]

I was told it does in the sense you can’t get sued or jailed or charged interest for unpaid health care bills.

[Shizunk]

I want also free houses, cars, and blowjobs. There is no such thing as free. Socialism doesn't work. I live in a socialist health care system and I still pay large amounts of cash if I want anything done well.

[Flower7]

Yes, I do think so. That would remove a lot of stress for people.

[Anonymous]

The U. S. bitches too much about what it thinks is 'socialized' this and that. So fine. Don't have any of it. Don't benefit from it.

[007kingifrit]

nothing is free. when you say free healthcare you mean high taxes and long wait times and lower quality care