Is it mandatory to get vaccinated where you live?

[malwins]

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here u can't enter just about snywhere. i wanted to get a curling iron yesterday but couldnt. i can't enter a bus also.

[MCheetah]

No, but two weeks ago, they did make it mandatory in Korea that in order to enter an entertainment venue, sports venue, or gym, you have to be vaccinated. I don't care about the first two, but I can't continue my kickboxing now because of this. I'm so f*cking sick of this BS virus. And why the f*ck haven't we nuked China yet? It's not like this is the ONLY sh*tty thing they've done. We don't even need nukes; drone strike their asses in Beijing and call it a day.

And I'm also so sick of these assholes telling you you have to get the vaccine. Ironic that they're usually the pro-choice crowd as well (I'm even pro-choice, but this includes vaccines as well, making me not a hypocrite). I'm not going to f*cking risk a heart attack, blindness, or a stroke by putting that sh*t in my body, especially since we already have to do all the other sh*t anyway, like wear a mask and do social distancing.

At the very least, you'd think they would let that go. But in many countries around the world, the masks and COVID safety precautions are still in effect. So what's even the f*cking point if nothing will change? Even in places with 90-95% vaccination rates, these policies are still in effect. The world got along fine without this vaccine and natural immunity exists. Something these brainlet dickheads on the far left don't seem to understand, despite all their "trust the science" spiel.

The most recent South Park episode called those who didn't take the vaccine selfish, in a joke of theirs. And yet for some reason, it's NOT selfish to force people to take something that can literally f*cking kill them with a higher mortality rate than COVID? Piss off.

[Fuentes]

Biden's cognitive isn't prepared to square off with China for WW3 because we all know if that took off the US would be the face of that war not NATO and allies.

[MCheetah]

@Fuentes
Yes, that's why they f*cked Trump out of his second term, to begin with. There's no guarantee Trump won 2020, but considering these assholes burying information, shredding documents, censoring discussion of what happened on social media, and refused an investigation, my money is that Trump won and that they 100% rigged the election, on top of literally admitting it in Time Magazine (or at least those close to powerful people doing so). And look at how GREAT everything is going!

Not that I think Trump had all that much power as president, but I see the title as being the morale of the country. Trump was a fighter and for free speech and rebellion. Biden is a limp old retard on top of being a belligerent asshole and barely nicer than Trump. In other words, people would be fully energized into going into a war with China under Trump's aggressive leadership. But with a weak simpleton like Biden, who makes the US look pathetic, the morale for war just isn't there, when even the leader of the country looks weak and pathetic.

THAT is why I think even through the president doesn't hold much political power, their psychological effect on the country and world, still matters a great deal. Hence, why China basically owns the US right now.

[ZackBan]

Same theme here. Not "mandatory" but you have fewer rights than a stray dog if you're not.

What once was a somewhat legitimate fear has now become a shameless money making scheme.

Two doeses were one thing but a booster shot every five months is 2 to 3 shots a year and with such dangerous side effects it's pretty much a game of russian roulette.

Before I would have supported protesting agaisnt it but some people tried and the governments of the world just ignored they exist and demonized them for not caring about the safety of others.

But if safety is more important than freedom we might as well all live in cages away from any danger.

[Anonymous]

It’s not mandatory anywhere, you just lose a few privleges if you don’t. It’s not like they’re forcing you to, I didn’t take it and the only difference is I do schooling at home instead which I prefer anyway. And I can’t eat out at restaurants which is fine by me. No ones forcing anything, they’re just being very suggestive of it is all.

[Uannoyme]

No. People aren't even being asked about vaccination status. Some stores say wear a mask if you're unvaccinated, but it's kind of an honor system thing.

[malwins]

where is that paradise

[Uannoyme]

Ohio

[FatCat2022]

I am not getting the shot under any circumstances and I do think it will be much harder to force these vaccine passports on everyone here in the U. S. and this is why they are doing it so slowly to see the public's reaction. This is all something that was planned many years ago and most people just do not understand that. They know the people who actually know what is going on will never get it so they are focusing on the sheep who will get as many boosters as they tell them. It really all comes down to how bad are you in fear? They are using that fear to control you. So just don't fear and you will be fine. If they ban us from public places so what? There is always a way around it.

[cth96190]

Here in Australia a tyrannical globalist-owned govervment is screeching that it is mandatory, but Section 51xxiv of the Australian Constitution says that government cannot force medical or dental treatment on anyone.
Forced vaccination is also contrary to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Nuremberg Code (1947).

[Koalamate]

They can't force it but they are just preventing people from being able to do anything without it.

[cth96190]

Same thing.
It is coercion, which would not last a minute in the High Cout.

[TheFlak38]

They told you you need to get vaccinated. You complied.
They told you you need 2 shots. You complied.
Then they told you you need a booster shot as well. You complied.
Now just weeks before chritmas they discover the new super lethal variant and all three injections you had are rendered useless so you need another 3 new injections.
Whoever doesn't realise they're being played are fuckin retards.

[Anonymous]

It’s mandated here meaning if you don’t have the vaccine you can’t work, you can’t enter any retail or hospitality venues not even to buy underwear , clothes or even food unless you show proof that you have been doubled vaccinated through a government app that shows your digital vaccine Certificate, this is to prevent fake vaccine Certificates. Public transport it’s not a requirement to be vaccinated but it is a requirement for everyone to wear a face mask

[Opinion Owner]

Forgot to also mention even going to the hospital for a procedure like a scan or to see a specialist, you have to also be double vaccinated! if you aren’t your appointment will be canceled same as your procedure! unless you can show genuine proof of a reason for why you can’t have the vaccine. Think this is only until mid December than the unvaccinated people are than allowed to enter all businesses providing the business themselves permit unvaccinated people entering, as the government from mid December are leaving it up to businesses to decide if they want to keep the current laws in place or not

[TheBMG]

Yes, but not necessarily because of where I live but rather where I work. Being in healthcare, the government is saying that we have to take it or they will impose huge fines to our place of business. Really they are forcing our hand. I’m fully vaccinated and with booster. I chose to do it, but I respect those that choose not to.

[genericname85]

not quite yet. they keep promising it's not gonna be "mandatory" but they already started making it mandatory for care workers and they have a huge hate campaign against anyone who doesn't want the vaccine. like they have public discriminatory mechanisms in place, that makes lifes of people who choose not to get the vaccine very difficult.

[Subarugirl]

It's still your choice, you can chose not to, just accept the consequences of your choice not to.

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl they are litterally blackmailing people to do it by making certain things (like studying in universtiy) impossible without it and then they say "but you had the choice" just to be free of people suing them because they know exactly that this particular vaccine has a high right of severe adverse effects. probably the highest of any medicine you can get over the pharmacy table to date.

and yes i will accept the consequences. but you know in germany we remember a famous saying from the separation of germany not too long ago. they said "nobody intends to build a wall" (separating gdr and western germany after ww2). that was like a few months before they did build a wall. i bet it's gonna be the same with "the vaccine not being mandated".

[genericname85]

*high rate

[Subarugirl]

You realize that schools, colleges, and certain professions and travel have had vaccine requirements for decades right? This isn't something new.
Also that statement that you made about it having the highest rates of sever adverse effects is so very false... antibiotics are responsible for almost one in six (16%) estimated emergency department visits for ADEs. Among older adults, oral anticoagulants are the most common causes of adverse drug events (ADEs) leading to emergency room visits and emergent hospitalizations.

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl no, as a student in college, you never had a vaccine requirement. i understand that if you wanna treat someone that has autoimmune weakness due to disease or medication.

what many people, including you as you demonstrated by your arguments (that obviously stem from media indoctrination) is a blatant ignorance of medical and ethical reasoning that CAN be considered as legitimation for a mandatory vaccine in certain professions. there's only one and that is the mediate protection of others. meaning for example in the case of polio, rabies, measles or pox: if you as the treating person have those vaccines, you can not infect the person you're treating.

in those cases, it is ethical to demand a vaccination of care personal because the patients will not be able to get those disease from the care takers if they have those vaccines. but that legitimation is not given with the covid vaccine, as you're still as likely to be infectious to others if you get the vaccine. this vaccine is only for self protection and therefore the ethical legtimiation for a mandate in any context is not at all given.

i mean can you name one medicine that causes severye side effects like myocarditis independend of age in 1 in 5000 cases? i am not aware of any medicine that is that bad. especially for young people up to 20 years, who do not suffer severe effects at all from covid. even up to the age of 50, it's still statistically stupid to take this vaccine.

and that ignores all the statistical bullshit the skews the detection of side effects and shrouds the connection between health effects and the vaccine.

a November 2021 study of the UK Office for National Statistics shows that people age 10-59 who got this vaccine have a doubled mortality rate compared to unvaccinated people.

but go ahead. keep regurgitating the political media propaganda. i'm sure your health is in their best interest...

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl i agree that Antibiotics are bad. that's because A: they're massively overused or B: if you had to take them, it was probably really bad so the risk benefit analysis was still in favor of taking them. howver the risk benefit analysis for the covid vaccine is negative if you're under 60 with no previeous diseases.

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl and by the way: do you know why nobody informs you that this vaccine is actually worse than the disease for most people? because litterally everyone who would have an interest to tell people because they would otherwise be personally accountab le and liable got freed from that liability from our oh so compentent politicians because "it's an emergency"...

[Shamalien]

People need to learn to mind their own fucking business. If you think that because of your fear, that YOU have the right to advocate for me to be made a second class citizen and barred from public spaces because I don’t believe in the same RELIGION as you, then you are a nazi. You would have been one. You think you would not have, but you would have. You are FUCKING TRASH and I sincerely hope you live to experience the other side, the side YOU PUT ME ON

[Anonymous]

No, it's not, but you can lose your job depending on what profession or employer you have. I'm in Tennessee which is a Republican state so they're not as strict about the requirements. Overall, in the U. S. it's not mandatory. People just have to make up their mind here is it worth it or not. I don't understand how this ever became political.

[AviatorTom]

Not really. The US government is requiring companies to require their workers to be vaccinated, but I work from home so it doesn't really apply. The state I live in does not have a vaccine or mask mandate.

[Jaysonava]

So disgusting

[AviatorTom]

@Jaysonava What's disgusting? the mandates or lack of them?

[Jaysonava]

mandates

[Apulu_3]

No it is not necessary but in most jobs you need to get vaccinated. Even my parent's staffs have a mandatory rule to get vaccinated and it is strictly followed.

[BeMuse]

No. I live in America, the home of the free and the land of the brave, not some shit box commie hellhole.

[malwins]

forreal

[BeMuse]

It's a shame I can't say the land of the free and the home of the brave right now, but for now my home in Florida is free even if some ares of my land (the USA) is partially occupied… There are still a lot of brave people fighting it though. Vaccine mandates are banned in Florida and the local government doesn’t have the right to force vaccination. Hopefully more states stand the fuck up.

[BeMuse]

Be brave, stay frosty...
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[Lost_in_the_Woods]

@malwins

* for now.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I have seen the kind of drugs they have. I don't think the Vaccines are meant to help people.

They have already been shown to cause reproductive problems (perticularly in women). And sudden heart failure. (perticularly in men)

Too many lies to try to cover up the bad effects of a "good thing" make me think there is more to trying to force it on people than keeping them healthy.

I will live in the woods and eat rabbits before I let them stick me.

[BeMuse]

@Lost_in_the_Woods Yep, they are culling the population and people are lining up with smiles on their faces. People always wonder how populations allow atrocities to occur. Now you’ve witnessed it...

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

https://youtu.be/VqVSt0_Zmuk

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

But if there is one thing I learned from Star wars, It's this.

The bad guys usually win. They cheat. They abuse others. They kill people who speak out.

But there is no victory for them. The more they hurt people, the more who fight back. The stronger they get, the stronger the resistance.

The bad guys can win 1000 times. Kill 1000 heroes, but the fighting never ends until they are destroyed.

Sure, the bad guys might win more battles, but they can never win the war. The war isn't over until the good guys win. Sure, there are ups and downs, but good people will always fight evil. When evil wins, more will join the resistance. But when the good guys win, its over. Evil has to start over from nothing.

When I realized that, I wasn't afraid anymore. It was my cell number V moment.

They can kill me. And they might kill me. But they can never really win.

Good always wins in the end. Not because they always win, but because that's the only way it can end.

Until then, we keep fighting.

[BeMuse]

@Lost_in_the_Woods

https://i.ibb.co/vJsWGHW/Covid-Vax-ACS.jpg

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Look, I hate to say it but evolution has been sliding backwords for deccades because smart, responsable independent, hard working people have very few children while the TLC crowd are off setting records.

I absolutely think there is a plot to get rid of people. But if it isn't the end times like the religious folks say we might just be on track to get our shit togeather before the next ice age.

The heart failure seems to be a rare and genuinely unintended consequence. But it runs in my family already so, you bet they can't talk me into taking that risk.

I'm more worried about the fact that the spike protein they swore didn't leave peoples arms ends up at highest concentrations in women's ovaries. That didn't take long for people to figure out. I can't imagine it was news to the drug companies so... 🤷🏼‍♂️

Only time will tell. But girls like @malwins might be the only future for the human race and honestly, it's hard for me to really see a downside.

I'm just worried we are running out of time. When they AI works the only benefit to those in power will be resources. They need a small number of people to write code and the rest of us are just in the way.

You think Bezos took an experimental Vaccine that has a 40% efficacy in the real world? You think he went with ivermectin, or you think they made a regular Vaccine for their friends before they let the virus go?

I don't know. But I'm sure they could wipe out the vast majority of the population in a matter of months with a man made virus they can't get because real Vaccines actually do work.

The only way to survive that is to either be rich or start training your immune system. I'd pay money to get covid.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

But hey, that's all I want to say about that at the moment. 😅

[BeMuse]

@Lost_in_the_Woods “The heart failure seems to be a rare and genuinely unintended consequence.”

Nope. It was an expected side effect and was obvious in the clinical trial data. There were were a number of deaths due to it during the clinal trials. They went forward with it nonetheless. Myocarditis/paericarditis was outlined in this October 2020 FDA briefing as an expected side effect of the mRNA vaccine candidates. The first EUA was issued Dec. 11 2020 after that briefing. Their was a heavy media propaganda push to discredit all scientists that pointed out the obvious… It’s intentional.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Sure. But the fact that they knew about it doesn't mean it was intentional.

It just means they don't care if people die.

[BeMuse]

@Lost_in_the_Woods You’ll find out in time. Obama set something in motion a long time ago and the truth will surface soon enough...

[MotorcycleMan]

No, although a lot of people try to claim it is because it might be mandatory for some jobs or to go certain places. They want freedom, but refuse to be responsible.

[Goodwifie]

It is in my occupation working in pharmacy and we've had to deal with people coming in to be vaccinated and being extremely angry about it because they don't want it.

[TsundereMatrix]

We have vaccine passports here so every non essential business you go to has to check it to let you in. Non essential businesses that don’t comply with checking vaccine passports get fined.

[Aquestion992]

Yes, here you need a vaccination certificate, or documentation of recovery from COVID-19, or a negative lab rapid test or PCR test to enter many categories of businesses and public services

[Anonymous]

Yes it is where I live. You have to wear your vaccine card on your clothes over your chest. There are vaccine police on patrol looking for violators, if you out and about with no vaccination you can get put in jail/quorantine. Most people are getting vaccines and infections almost don't exist.

[The_Shadow_Dweller]

That is a really good thing! I wish the ID cards system was here in India. But with that much huge population, a simple system generated certificate is cool, I think.

The response in India has been really good, about vaccinations. People were eager to get it. There may be anti-vaxxers but I don't know them.

[Gramkabir]

Yes vaccination is necessary... otherwise it'll be difficult to put pandemic down. I don't know why in Europe people are against vaccination. We've to live and we have to manage economy.

[JCT666]

While, it's not legally "mandatory" here in Scotland, refusing the vaccine can still result in losing your job and being denied to certain places here.

Low key coercion, you can call it...

[Jaximus-Lion]

Not in Sweden, we didn't even have a lock down, not even a day. You can go where ever you want and work too, no one would say a word.

[Anonymous]

Mandatory? No. But then we have a sane population. Not so much paranoid crazies worried about 5g micro trackers or idiots getting their news from Facebook posts, repeatedly lying about "unproven" or "untested" vaccine technology.