Why Are Some Women Against Feminism? (Page 2)

[ronaldo75]

They what its doing to other women's minds. Feminism is a positive concept but Hyper-relativity and Postmodernism have turned it into a propaganda tool to set women back. Many sexist men have already caught on to this and this is why you such a dramatic drop in men who whine about woke feminism and a rise in women who are warning AGAINST modern feminism. Woke feminism is starting to backfire ironically on women.

[Pohjolan]

Just because someone agrees with one or more parts of a -ism:s agenda it does not mean that they support the rest of it or said -ism in general.

Like just because someone wants a regulated market where people can't be sold melamine baby formula or have their water supply be bottled and sold off it doesn't mean that they support communism.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Those type of women typically get off being mistreated, have low self esteem and like being regarded as socially low.

Modern western feminism is trash but to be against your own gender best interest especially when your gender is usually marginalized and socially oppressed throughout the world is the height of stupidity.

[FreyaRed]

I'm not obliged to be a feminists or support its partially self-destructive ideology.

[UsernameXLTX]

Feminist paint women as these hopeless victims who are oppressed and need to be cuddled when it's not reality. Most women reject this view by modern feminist bc it's not how they see themselves. Modern feminist are toxic and they divide men and women more than unite us as a whole. It's now a sexist movement.

[deandre09]

Because certain women realize that there has to be a balance and believe that actual unity will help. Feminist on the other hand don’t believe in unity they believe in divide and conquer. Y’all say y’all want to be treated equal to men but don’t wanna take the stuff that comes with it

[Berethor]

Here a good video about that.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/n1oYtp1iO7A

[fonduegirl]

So you're stupid?

[Nazgol]

Because 1. not everyone has to think the same, 2. They want to remain traditional and believe in gender roles 3. They need & require a man's support, abilities & love 4. They're not delusional freaks!

[Nazgol]

5. It's not about having your own gender, it's about being true to yourself and your gender! If you look inside yourself you will see that you have needs & u will find your femininity

[Nazgol]

* hating your own

[Nazgol]

6. Because nature didn't intend for us to be feminists. There's a reason why men were hunter gatherers & women looked after the kids

[Anonuser838383]

What kids? Feminists dont want kids. Their bodies might... but they dont take care of their kids when they do have them. theyre nasty women. Very nasty and irresponsible. Social criminals

[Nazgol]

@Anonuser838383 agreed

[Anonuser838383]

Really? After birth abortion is more common than you think... im not sure you agree, millions of American babies/kids have been emotionally abandoned by their mothers

[fonduegirl]

@Anonuser838383 we need feminism because not having kids automatically make you nasty women lol

[GTHughes]

It is my opinion that 3rd wave Feminism has strayed from its roots of egalitarianism, and instead uses the victim card for preferential treatment. That’s why today’s true Feminists, prefer the term “Egalitarian” to differentiate from what modern Feminism has associated the word “Feminism” with.

[TexasRed95]

They don't hate feminism they hate the feminist agenda. Modern day feminism isn't about equality. It's about being above men. And thats why lots of women are against it. Because they want equality rather than to be above others.

[Smashingdoozy]

Because if radical feminist and terfs who ruined the basis of the movement

[dustybiker]

Some woman take it to an extreme place others wouldn’t. We all draw our own lines with everything.

[AndrésC64]

What rights are they fighting for? Women have absolutely every right that men do. There are laws against discrimination based on sex/gender. What more do you want?

[Diodoro]

They have a brain and recognize feminism for what it actually is, instead of following the word but not the actions of activists.

[hellacray]

How does being against feminism equate to hating your own gender or loving oppression?

So if people support feminism does that mean they hate the opposite gender and love oppressing others?

[fonduegirl]

Can mean that, one of the possibilities

[hellacray]

Well there you go.

There's women out there that like men and don't want to oppress them.

[awkward_author]

Some women are against feminism because they view it as a fight for a matriarchy, rather than a desire for equality, which they believe has already been reached to a reasonable extent.

[GTHughes]

Precisely. It is my opinion that 3rd wave Feminism has strayed from its roots of egalitarianism, and instead uses the victim card for preferential treatment. That’s why today’s true Feminists, prefer the term “Egalitarian” to differentiate from what modern Feminism has associated the word “Feminism” with.

[DudeDiligence]

Because they care about the other half of humanity that feminist clearly doesn't care about.

[NaultD]

Positions of power are deeply invested in breaking down solidarity. United we bargain, divided we beg.

[Anonymous]

I am against feminism because it is sexist and I am an advocate of equality, my gentials are nothing to do with it, neither are the gentials of these women you are talking about anything to do with it.

[Kiran_Yagami]

Because some women understand that actions define movements, not words, and the actions of feminism speak all too clearly.

[vald9inches]

I am still trying to figure out why feminist defend islam which is the most women oppressing religion in the world! 🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

[fonduegirl]

It's not really oppressive

[fonduegirl]

Not directly at least

[fonduegirl]

And not all feminists are atheist

[vald9inches]

What part of islam is not oppressive to women? I dare you to come up with an example lmfao 😂

[fonduegirl]

Well, they consider women Otherworldly jewels and that is why they won't make them work or other people aren't privileged to see them

[fonduegirl]

I've already clarified this... It IS oppressive but indirectly

[vald9inches]

I can't imagine being anymore direct than forcing the to cover up from head to toe in complete black even in the dead of summer and preventing them from ownership of anything and preventing them from driving or renting and in court it takes two women to equal the testimony of one man. Or how about they can never travel especially out of the country without being escorted by their husband or male family member. So how is any of that indirect? Lol

[vald9inches]

Jewels my ass more like property and slavery lol

[fonduegirl]

That's indirect. Like an insult disguised as a compliment.

[ManHater]

Next time let's go to Afghanistan and see what poor family is willing to pawn their 10 year old daughter off to be raped. Hmmm right femenism in islam when you can't say a word.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Because it's objectively bad. There ideas are wrong, and very much destructive wherever implemented. The better question is why wouldn't they be against it when it's so awful for them?

[Tstrbrainer]

They haven't really faced oppression from men, and men's response to feminist ideas might have negatively affected their dating life or expectations.

[more_than_a_guy]

I think it's because modern feminism has become quite extreme and lost it's meaning.

[LordOfThePines]

No idea frankly, but it is what they believe and they're entitled to those beliefs.

[Shamalien]

Because egalitarianism is the new goal. Women are outperforming men, and this is artificial, by design. Instead of just levelling the playing field, we basically have affirmative action for women.

[jjj101010]

Perhaps some people r more for equality rather than pushing one gender more than another. There r plenty of inequalities that men face too.

[notwoke]

because women have always enjoyed great favoritism and feminist arguments are based on something other than reality

[jahaims]

If what people say or do make you hate yourself, you are getting your self worth from the wrong places.

[JamesRandiDebates]

Because bow its tougher for women to get ahead using the only thing they have to offer.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XacHPiPgUnA

[crmoore]

Because the movement was co-opted by hateful people, unfortunately. They're the face of it, now.

[Aphrodite801]

Pick me brainwashed girls. It’s really that simple lol many men pretending to be women as well

[Neilbud]

Because some women know that they may have boys of their own some day, or have them, and dont want to blindly follow anything because of that.

[Massageman]

Because those women are actually using their heads for something other than a hat rack!

[Lisa0203]

I think some women were raised by men. Every person has a different life though. 😊

[KlinkyCoder]

Probably those women who hate feminism for the same reasons men hate it.

[JesseJayNeak]

The fact that you needed a trigger warning about dissenting opinions says a lot about you

[OlderThanILook]

I would assume it's because of the stereotypes

[slatyb]

They don't know what feminism means.

[NathanDavis]

because they're free to make that choice

[Hangry06]

They love patriarchy

[jerdanro]

Women consistantly out preform men at universities, are well represented in almost all fields (make up the majority in some), and are wealthier and more upwardly mobile than in any time in history. I'm not trying to start an argument. I really want to know what you see as patriarchal or have experienced.

[fonduegirl]

Maybe in your country, that's true

[fonduegirl]

World over? No way

[My-lover]

Honestly i agree with Jerdanro

And have researched something's and found in India there are jobs reserved especially for women and given the priority and in field of education there are mostly women , women are at high positions in IT sectors also they have special benefits even there that men don't

If someone is truly working hard and smart j think they will grow they need no help of feminological ideas

[2021biguy]

Because they love men and don't hate men.

[BarryLiverstone]

Because some feminism is more radical than other

[Grubhub]

Because they’re hardcore conservatives

[WowwGirl]

They screwed a lot up for traditional women.

[grega239]

Because feminism has achieved its stated purpose and then some.
Its nothing but a hate group now

[grega239]

Also, why do feminists sound like they're ashamed of their femininity?

[fonduegirl]

Because being feminine is being emotional and dramatic and weak, as defined by many men and culturally programmed by many cultures

[grega239]

Emotional, dramatic and weak. These are negatives in men. Its expected of women.

Programmed? Really?

[grega239]

Another thing.
If feminism is about women emancipation and choice and all that, why are you asking this question?

What if they made a choice to be a housewife, take care of the kids , cook and keep the house clean?

Maybe they looked at feminism and thought it was bullshit.

For example: mansplaining , manspreading, killallmen, changing the word"history" to "herstory" as of his in history actually means that its about men.

You're quick to complain about the ratio of men/women CEOs/notable positions , yet you never complain about how few women work in construction, garbage collectors, and so on.

What about gender quotas and affirmative action programs granted to women by the government. Men dont have those. Wheres that equality you're always on about?

How about the wage gap? We live in a capitalist system and if companies could get away with paying women less, men would have a hard time finding work.

[backdoorman]

Because they support equality, not gynocentrism.

[Waldoe]

some women "LIKE" men...

[fonduegirl]

Some, including me, like themselves better, consider themselves "human beings"

[Waldoe]

you sound terribly bitter, I'm sorry

[fonduegirl]

I've suffered

[Waldoe]

is it possible that you are attracted to the abusers? Most guys are NOT. Choose better and be happy

[fonduegirl]

Not really. Never dated an abuser, don't have one in my family. Thank you very much.

[Waldoe]

I am not "Blaming" you, just saying that there are "Great" guys and assholes... you can choose better guys

[fonduegirl]

This isn't about dating

[fonduegirl]

I never said "all men are dogs" or anything like that

[Waldoe]

"Feminists" are seen as "angry, bitter, man haters"... thats the common view. A Lot of women do not HATE men, and do not allow anyone to abuse them.. men or women or society...

[fonduegirl]

Yes exactly

[fonduegirl]

My point here was that my friend wanted to wear skirt as a part of her uniform but because it's co-ed, IT WOULD BE TOO DISTRACTING FOR FUCKING MALE TEACHERS AND MALE STUDENTS so she can't

[Waldoe]

Some women prefer to be "Protected and dependant" rather than independant and strong

[fonduegirl]

It's a skirt. It shouldn't be sexualized. It shouldn't be "revealing" or "sign of rebellion"

[fonduegirl]

I'm a moderate dresser myself, i still support feminism ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯

[fonduegirl]

This is just one small example, and yes it gets me bitter and angry

[My-lover]

Ok i might be tough while i debate but i respect the author so don't block me i won't be disrespectful though apologies in adavance if i seem to come little rude or sarcastic but it's only to the points and not the author.

So feminism is now fighting for skirts , it's really strange there are certain dress codes that needs to be followed not only by women also by men

For example even teachers can't wear what ever they want they to follow certain dicipline some schools colleges don't allow teachers to wear even jeans bc the age is such that students might get attracted to teachers and hence they ask to dress conservatively.

How would you feel if you teacher the female teacher grown women comes to teach in thigh high skirt would you focus on studies or you would think about the way the teacher dresses wouldn't you be distracted by your teachers thighs and if your professor comes in tight shorts almost his buldge being visible wouldn't the girls really look at it?

I am once again extremely sorry for being crude and graphic

[fonduegirl]

You certainly make good points.

But I never said mini skirts. Skirts can be long, as they're a part of uniform. They can also be given as option since not all women would feel comfortable in skirts.

[My-lover]

The thing is uniforms are in place to make equilibrium among students but some make it fashion and they will go for less than knee length

But uniform have skirts i don't see people said that being distracted but the length is problem for them.
But even if girls wear asked to wear pants whats the problem i mean boys are wearing pants dont they so it will be equal for all it isn't to fair to boys as well when girls can wear different dress like skirts while boys need to wear only plain pants otherwise they need to be allowed to wear shorts even boys below need some air 🙂.

[fonduegirl]

Their should be proper conduct for this. Skirts should be of appropriate length. Is this answer satisfactory to you?

[My-lover]

🙂Come on now don't be like that now , my question was what feminism has to do with skirts

[My-lover]

Fine then i will mind my own buisness Ciao

[fonduegirl]

It does. Girls have way more restrictions than men.

[fonduegirl]

When really it's the men who need help with self control lol

[My-lover]

Lol i will only discuss if you are really upto debate i just dont to be blocked because i have different view point.

It bugs me not because i was blocked but for the reason

[fonduegirl]

I'm sure i had my reasons, whoever you may be.

Or as men say when rejected by a feminist "dodged a bullet there!"

[H3LLBRING3R]

Cuz feminism is cringe and not kek

[Jintendo18]

Not all women are misandrists.

[Gwenhwyfar]

No clue

[Fuentes]

Probs cause its taken to far

[shortster]

3rd wave feminism jumped the shark.

[anylolone]

They just aren't sexist.

[Edward02]

Because feminism is cancer

[BestWoman]

I'm not

[SimpHunter007]

Feminism is gày

[SimpHunter007]

Feminist are mentally ill weirdos

[emperor90]

I dont know

[ManHater]

Do you have a cock or vagina? Trying to figure that out with those little screwed up ears you have.