Is it racist to find brown skin more beautiful than white or light skin?

[Anonymous]

A YouTube argument where a user said that they found brown or dark skinned Indians more beautiful than light skinned Indians.
So is it racist or a preference?

Yes

No

[Nomoturtle]

Technically yes, but it's not like the word racist has any technical meaning anymore. The construction of the word race-ism suggests it's a system of thought based on race, that different races are different.
However, the modernised definition is discrimination based on race, which would be indicative of the former definition in a previous time, but today in practice it has instead become a claim of heresy during this period obsessed with equality.

Emotionally, no. You shouldn't be called a heretic for choosing who you want to fuck, you have that last remaining right to freedom of association at least. Especially when it's a preference you can't really choose.

[Asker]

Would your answer have been the same if i asked "Is it racist to find white or light skin more beautiful than brown skin?"

[Nomoturtle]

Actually I misread the question so that I thought it was the other way around. But yes it would, the argument is symmetric. Though I'd be less enthusiastic for the second paragraph; it's apparently more acceptable to discriminate against whites than blacks. It's a common joke in my country to replace "BIPOC" with "white", or "women" with "men", or "LGBT" with "straight" in various hiring descriptions for a good laugh at the blatant "anti-discriminatory" discrimination.

[Asker]

"it's apparently more acceptable to discriminate against whites than blacks"-Only in Western countries. It's the straight opposite in Asian and Arab countries

[Nomoturtle]

I wasn't aware of that. How ironic that the majority group would be discriminated against in both the East and West.

Frankly I'm a bit disturbed to see "as a fair Indian, I find that racist, it's equally wrong to call a fair person not as beuatiful as it is to a brown person" coming from people in the East. I had hoped you hadn't but it seems you've caught the same ideological diseases as we have, and that's probably the fault of the West.

[Asker]

Even though she is wrong, i can understand how she must be offended. When you're the beauty standard in a country and never faced discrimination, you would feel a little bit shocked when you see someone say that's not true

[Nomoturtle]

Yes, I see that too, but it doesn't matter how offended she is that people don't like her as much, she isn't entitled to change other people's opinions to fit to an equal standard.
Equality is unnatural, it does not emerge in a free system, and so enforcing equality requires tyranny. Imposing equality on thoughts effectively means making people into a hivemind. No way should that be allowed.

[Staximus]

Dark skinned Indian women have been looked at as inferior to light skinned ones for hundreds of years, but they are both beautiful

[Asker]

True. I would say the girl in the pic called it racist cause she felt less desirable for a sec

[kyleelyn199723]

People seem to misunderstand what racism is. Racism is when you judge someone and make biased statements about them based on their skin color. So if someone said “All white women are overweight with horrible genes” then they would be racist, but a person explaining their preference saying “I think brown women are more beautiful” that is not racist in my book. It’s just someone explaining their preference which is suggestive to how they personally feel.

[Mia-Wallace]

No. But it doesn't matter even if the preference is fueled by racism. Who we prefer to date/find beautiful is an entirely private matter, whatever the reason may be. It's simply off limits to others.

[BarryLiverstone]

True but not in all cases.

[Cjay90841]

It’s a preference. It becomes racist when it is used to limit the rights or somehow degrade the person or group of people being spoken about. However it is a fine line and easily crossed. I would recommend that the person saying that open their mind more to other preferences. They may be missing out on wonderful relationships.

[Anonymous]

definitely not racist to have a preference... you can't help what you're attracted to
just as long as you're not shitting on other types or badmouthing them because of said preference :)

[hi8sm3]

true, most people don't understand this. they called it being racist.

Are you white?

[Opinion Owner]

@hi8sm3 if anything I've never seen it be asked this way. many people have defended having a white only preference for so long, which is also ok but what isn't ok is shitting on people of colour or making derogatory statements about their features.

[hi8sm3]

yep, that is just they being toxic sh8s

[Opinion Owner]

@hi8sm3 I personally am a white woman only attracted to darker skin tones eg African Pakistani Indian etc. can’t feel a deep attraction for any other appearance but I can definitely appreciate beauty in other races just don’t feel an attraction x
Hope this helps!

[hi8sm3]

Thank you for your input.

by the way, can we talk? you can follow me

[Alwayreckles93]

I am a white lady and I do get discrimination for being white from black people.

[RolandCuthbert]

One of the weirdest things at this site is the crazy definitions folks have for racism.

[Alwayreckles93]

Well you and that Dopayo racist kid are extremely rude and racist against white people.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Alwayreckles93 It must have been really racist to say I was ignoring you.

Keep working on those new and interesting definitions of racism. That's some good stuff, right there. And again, I won't block you. I am just going back to ignoring you.

[Alwayreckles93]

You know Sir , At least Dopayo she is 16 still a kid I can understand her behavior her brain isn't fully developed yet she's still a baby. But you being a grown old ass man should be the mature one and knows better. You truly are a horrible role model example for Dopayo. What are you teaching Africa American kids that it's okay to be racist? I can see why Dopayo acts rude you are teaching that child to be racist.

[Aurora1010]

No, she needs to chill. Her sensitivity is annoying lol

[bean2k21]

Nice bit of controversy
It's racist if used as a basis to discriminate against
Or antagonize a person
So you better check yourself!

[Nomoturtle]

Well, technically it is racist discrimination.
If you prefer one attribute over another, and it's directly linked to race, then that's racial discrimination, even if you haven't chosen your preference.

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't brought up in the next 5 years, because logically it's much less of a reach than other less contentious claims of racism.
The difference is that this claim would massively further violate your right to freedom of association; you would not be totally free to choose your wife/husband, so there's been a lot of hesitance to push this idea. But I imagine it will come eventually.

[Fireguy17]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
we are all different, so what difference does it make what you like.

[FunkyMonkee]

That's called, "preference". It's no more racist than liking blondes over brunettes.

[DWornock]

It is just a preference. It is no more racist than preferring red wine to white wine.

[BarryLiverstone]

What does skin color have to do with racism? The definition doesn’t mention skin color at all.

[EaterPeter]

Skin can be glowing, healthy or not glowing and or unhealthy. Please don't try to fill colors into it, who ever that is.

[EaterPeter]

Thanks for like!

[OddBeMe]

Sexual preference isn’t chosen, per se. I’d say it isn’t racist.

[Anonymous]

No its not, but many liberals will accuse you of that.

[Gwenhwyfar]

No. Either way it’s your own preference.

[Nagahime]

It's just a preference.

[jahaims]

Look up the definition of racist

[Joker_]

Yeah, racial preferences are racist

[SmokinAces2000]

No, I’ve never been attracted to light skin

[QuietRunner]

preference is different than being racist

[Anonymous]

No, somebody's got to.