Why is revenge seen as a negative thing?

[Anonymous]

I understand if you’re religious, why it would be. Revenge is to make someone pay for their wrongdoings to you, get even. Give them what they deserve, what they had coming to them. In Christianity, everyone deserves hell without God, so it makes sense that revenge is distasteful or sinful.
But for everyone else, (general public) why is it so socially unacceptable? Specifically in a situation like cheating. A person who cheats steals things like time, love, and innocence. These are all things you can never recover, never get back. But when someone retaliates through destruction of property, sleeping with someone (after their relationship, their best friend, father, fiancé, exc…) telling people what they did, or any creative way; it’s seen as bad, irrational. Especially when it comes to property… materialistic items that you can always buy again. Why are material items seen as more valuable than love? It’s disgusting. Senseless. Pathetic. Sometimes hate is valid, and the only way to sate it is to try to get even close to what they did to you.
I see often people see an evil person doing an evil thing as not as bad as a good person doing a not as good or close to as evil thing. Doesn’t make sense. Why are good people bad for getting back at evil people who did an evil thing? The good person isn’t going around doing evil to good people as the evil person has. This Isn’t exclusive to cheating, but I see it most often with this. Common sense is dead.

[ManHater]

Some dirt bag rapes and kills your 12 year old daughter. Chop his balls off and use a flame to stop the bleeding then cut his cock off and shove it down his throat till he dies. Revenge is good.

[Asker]

Although that would technically be vengeance, if the girl went and killed the man herself it would also be incredible. I think justified revenge should be more normalized and validated in society. Rather than justifying and normalizing the acts of evil committed by cruel monsters.

[exitseven]

A lot of people say that two wrongs don't make a right but really revenge is not a bad thing. It can be a great motivator and afterwards you feel so much better.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO

[In_Trance]

Because there's actually no point to revenge and it just showcases how insecure and small-minded a person really is

[Asker]

How?

[sensible27]

Because it is? Maybe, possibly. Depends on your definition of revenge if you think their behaviour can hurt other people it's not revenge but if you are doing something just to hurt them it's not particularly useful

[Asker]

Why?

[sensible27]

Because overall you are damaging things rather than fixing them maybe. Imagine a scenario do you think the person who hurt you was born evil?

[Asker]

Yeah, easily

[sensible27]

(and) you were born good?

[Asker]

No, ofc not. But I don’t do things solely for the purpose of causing others pain without reason or cause.

[sensible27]

Why do you think others around you do.. maybe

[Asker]

Because some things have no reason or cause other than to create pain and destruction, and people who continuously follow that path are evil in my eyes. Selfish and evil.

[sensible27]

(things like?)

[Asker]

Rape, cheating, pedophilia, those things off the top of my head. Murder could have some varied reasons so I won’t add it

[sensible27]

Why do you feel even these things are done to intentionally hurt others.. could be out of desperation and fears

[Asker]

Huh? No, those things don’t have reasons

[DryGermanGuy]

Imagine lynching the wrong negro! Oh wait, that actually happened… 🤔

[Asker]

Huh? What’s this have to do with my question? Why are you coming in here being racist?

[DryGermanGuy]

You asked about revenge. Lynching was the most extreme form of revenge. See how that works (or rather not)?

[Asker]

So you’re saying crimes should not go punished because sometimes the judicial system fails? We should let rape, murder, and arson go off unkept? This is even less rational when it comes to an individual basis as what revenge entails, getting back at someone for a personal wrongdoing. How would a person mix up that? It would be near impossible unless they were a fool, or maybe racist as you seem to be.

[DryGermanGuy]

Stop projecting and stop putting words into my mouth. We have some archaic villages in remote areas of Europe where the whole revenge spiral is rotating since the early 1900s. Starting with one drunken grandfather shoving the other drunken grandfather off his donkey. Killing each other for revenge in the fourth generation. And each one is certain to be right and dishing out God’s punishment. I ask again: See how that goes?

[Asker]

So…. Let rapists and murderers run around free? You’re pretty disgusting and I think I wanna end this conversation.

[DryGermanGuy]

You’re still projecting and putting words into my mouth. Just grow up, kid, maybe then you will realize how juvenile and silly your fantasies are!

[jahaims]

Waste of energy

[Asker]

Disagree. It makes the person think twice before hurting another person. Too many evil people get away with it because others want to be “good people” but in reality it’s more compassionate to potential victims to make the perpetrator pay. And second, it feels amazing and helps you get over the thing they did that hurt you. What wastes energy is letting what they did sit without justice. Bringing justice to them is what will let you sleep happy at night.

[jahaims]

Doesn't feel good for me. And people don't learn nor is it my job to teach them. If someone does me wrong i cut them out and move on. My time and efforts are better spent elsewhere.

[Asker]

Yeah, that sounds like the mentality of letting a rapist walk free and not coming forward for one reason or another. That would be a kind of revenge, making sure that the person is behind bars. Making sure that they don’t hurt another. The premise is universal with all crimes. The only difference is you get emotional validation rather than just the justice that befalls the crime. Parents aren’t meant to discipline in anger. They teach through love, to make sure the child learns. The only difference here is teaching through hate. Why is one worse than the other? If you are not a persons parent, you are not obligated to love them. Sure it may be a waste of energy for you, but that does not explain why society would see it as a negative rather than a positive or neutral act.

[jahaims]

Not even remotely similar. You just lack intelligence and maturity.

[Asker]

How is it not? You say I am the one who lacks both intelligence and maturity, yet refuse to explain why I do. I think it’s rather that you are just a lazy person, and thinking too hard is a nuisance for you. I could be wrong, but all of your responses and reasonings suggest a sloth like attitude on life.

[jahaims]

When did I refuse? Whether you believe me or not idc but if I am sloth how am I retired at 30 with a beautiful wife and two children. Putting energy into positive things that advance my life is why I am where I am currently.

[Asker]

You refuse by putting it forward initially. It is lazy to disagree with a person and then to not explain why, if that is what you want then just keep your mouth shut. So maybe you aren’t lazy, just argumentative and intellectually incapable of explaining rationalization for your stance. And those things you described are irrelevant, I am confused as to why they were brought up. That has nothing to do with being a lazy person. Plenty of stupid and lazy people are rich with a family.

[jahaims]

Waste of energy was my reason but you failed to understand. How many lazy people amass their own wealth by 30?

[Asker]

If your rationalization was consistent, you’d be reading a book or anything else rather than on a questionable website responding to an anonymous user.

[Asker]

Plenty, some people have all the luck

[jahaims]

That is under the assumption that I consider this a waste of time which I do not.

[Asker]

Not to say that it doesn’t take hard work for most, but is that really all you have to back your stance? You’re so insecure that you feel the need to flaunt wealth instead of offering any words that resemble wisdom or intelligence?

[Asker]

By your logic, I am the worlds smartest and most beautiful nun, so everything I say is valid and true,

[jahaims]

Not flaunting, I presented it as evidence of not being a lazy sloth as you claimed. A majority of 30 year old self made men are not lazy. Therefore it is very reasonable anecdotal evidence. My words of wisdom are to not waste energy. You make a lot of assumptions and present them as if those are my thoughts and feelings.

[jahaims]

You fail to grasp the idea of what logic is.

[Asker]

You lack the words of wisdom, that was my point. Yet you are here, wasting your energy. You hold zero consistency, and the circles of speaking to you are giving me a headache. Have a nice day, hope you learn how to properly articulate your thoughts some day. Perhaps pick up one of those books.

[jahaims]

Again not wasting energy are my words of wisdom. Wasting energy is a matter of opinion. I don't consider this a waste. You consider it talking in circles because I have to keep re-explaining the same concept because you don't seem to grasp it.