Does Anyone Else Agree with Me when I Say that David Icke is an Absolute Lunatic?

[Bel88]

David Icke

For those who don't know him, he's the guy who thinks the Royal Family are lizard-aliens in disguise, and that literally everything is part of a conspiracy.

The video is well worth watching. It's only for 9 minutes, and covers conspiracies in general.

[Lliam]

I don't put a lot of stock in David Icke, but not all of his information is as laughable as the examples given in the video.
I'll say that I don't pay much attention to stuff about aliens but I don't just discount everything. I keep some information in the back of my mind for further corroboration. I'm a skeptic, but I have an open mind.

The problem with the video you shared is, it seems to have been created for the purpose of encouraging people to believe "official" narratives and not to do research or question. I'd like to know who funded it.

To deny the existence of conspiracies is to be gullible and empty headed. Are CIA programs like MK Ultra fictitious? Is it loony to question the official stories about the JFK assassination or 911? I can think of many "conspiracy theories" that were later proven to be true.

The official covid narrative is certainly questionable. Talk about a massive conspiracy.

In fact, there are unimaginably wealthy and powerful conspirators who are intent on ruling the world. And it's not "antisemitic" to research the Rothschilds.

[Levin]

On the video, indeed. I didn't watch all of it, because I have much better things to do. But the first minute I watched follows all the hallmarks of mainstream narrative journalism (I use that word loosely). Reference most absurd aspects of a person's view, strawman them and make out that is the mainstay of their thinking. Chop and cut bits out of a person's speech so they don't actually get a platform to actually say what they think, which is often usually at least somewhat reasonable once people are given the opportunity to explain themselves. Take the Wogan interview/godhead thing.

The 'journalist' in that video is likely someone who has recently graduated university, has swallowed all her conditioning from birth, follows a set script, never bothers to independently research anything, and is really only interested in the advancement of her career. At the end of it she can feel proud of herself because she get a paycheck, something to mention on her CV, and gets to laugh at all the 'stupid people' in much the same way as people did during Victorian freakshows.

[Bel88]

@Levin You have "better things to do"? Like what?

[Levin]

Would it matter to you if I didn't have better things to do? Or are you just interested in my daily activities and how I live my life?

[Bel88]

@Levin So you just made up a lame excuse to account for the fact you didn't watch the video, but still want to criticise and dismiss it. Right, got it.

[Levin]

If the first few minutes are budget cheap and nasty garbage, then I'm quite confident that the remainder will be garbage. I don't turn on the radio to hear a bit of Lady Gaga, to expect it to climax with a Beethoven piano concerto.

[Bel88]

@Levin I would rather listen to Lady Gaga than some boring "concerto"!

[Levin]

Great, keep that mind open.

[Bel88]

@Levin Sarcasm about being closed-minded from you? The one who doesn't want to watch the whole clip because he's too lazy?

[Levin]

I aim to maximise utility, my dear. I could watch the video, or I could listen to a Beethoven concerto. I do wonder which will enrich my consciousness more...

I'll tell you what. I'll watch the video, if you listen to a Beethoven concerto.

[Levin]

I mean, you may give your neighbours a shock, as the first Australian to play some classical music in their household...

[Bel88]

@Levin Ow, really. You could "maximise your utility" and "listen to Beethoven". (eyeroll)
I see you are a lost cause.

[Bel88]

@Levin That's a bad deal! I would rather have my fingernails ripped out than listen to that garbage.

[Levin]

One day culture and civilisation will hit the shores of Australia. Not this day though.

[Bel88]

@Levin That day came and went a long, long time ago. 'Beethoven' isn't something that anyone with an ounce of taste would ever subject themselves to, but perhaps you're just tone-deaf.

[NamerOfStars]

I think pretty much EVERYONE else agrees with you. I'd imagine that even if many real-world organizations actually WERE secretly run by reptile people, they'd think he was crazy.

[Buntyp]

Don't vex your spirit with people like that. Before the rise of the influencers of all sorts, these people would have all been locked up if they did that shit on other people's doorsteps. Just switch the channel and start blocking the morons, because they design their shit to provoke a reaction--and, like the old saying, for them, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

[Bel88]

Normally I would follow advice like this, but I live with my sister, and she's a fan of his and talks about him often, and it's driving me crazy. I've told her countless times that he's nothing more than a raving lunatic, but she won't listen.

[Buntyp]

My sincerest sympathy. That's like really waking up in the Twilight Zone, when someone close gets lured away like that. For some people, I think that it's their way of getting past really difficult stuff that they can't process, like Covid, and the privations it's caused, especially in your part of the world. The biggest island on the planet lets no-one in or out--that's not a small thing to process. The crazy shit can become the only thing that makes sense, when nothing else does.

Is it something that might pass as things get less weird, or is she a full blown disciple?

[Bel88]

"... really difficult stuff..."
Yes, her boyfriend died back in late 2020. She seems to be okay though, but of course some people are very good at hiding grief.

[Buntyp]

Shit. That's definitely not easy. I'll keep wishing the best for both of you. Keep an eye on her, and try to not let it rob your peace of mind. Maybe try to grin and bear it, and hope that she'll start to see through his bullshit. I really hate these fake assholes who do that to people, knowing that they're manipulating them. It's the fact that she's clinging to it that makes me think that it's a kind of compensation that she's become dependent on, as a distraction from her pain.

[Bel88]

Thank you <3

[Tamera952]

Absolutely agreed. He is a Psychopathic lunatic — a mega moron.
charismatic, yes but absolutely insane. 100%.

[Levin]

There's a lot of people who think he's a shill puppet used to discredit critics of the establishment by mixing in absurdity with truth.

In any critique of david icke they always mention the lizard thing, which is obviously just a cheap way to discredit and smear him, in place of any actual journalism. It's basically lazy populism.

Overwhelmingly, most of the articles on his website aren't about lizards and some such, but are humanitarian. Take a look: https://davidicke.com/

I think he does a good job of calling out the transhuman/AI/Scientific materialist/corporate/digital enslavement agenda for humanity. But I don't see him as some kind of guru. Merely, some of the articles and videos on his website are interesting.

[ObscuredBeyond]

I don't so much believe the royal family ARE reptilians; but possessed by reptilian spirits would be a fair accusation. I also don't believe literally everything to be part of some over-arching satanic cult conspiracy; but let's not pretend like such things don't exist either. And let's not pretend like such things don't TRY to make literally everything about themselves and their desires.

When he attacks the FBI and CIA, let's not pretend like those organizations are spotless lambs. They've admitted to doing shady things! If what they've admitted to doing is pretty disgusting; let's not pretend like they haven't done worse things that they are still covering up!

[MCheetah]

Crazy? He's got nothing on Daniela1982!
But really, he's not that crazy, when you think about it. All women over 5'10"/178 are lizard people! Human women don't grow to be that big! As well as all men with blonde hair. Blonde hair is a trait that only exists in females! Meaning, The Netherlands is a goddamn reptile colony!

Not just that, but just that, but Francis E. Dec was right about the glow-in-the-dark CIA n*ggers!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/rvT5QagqXMY

[maverick2022]

David Icke is mostly an entertainer which is why he's allowed to exist in the first place. He makes conspiracy theorists look like nuts, which actually works in the elites favor. The Illuminati existed and eventually became Freemasons to control societies from behind the scenes. If you look at the dollar bill, it is full of masonic symbolism. John F Kennedy gave a famous speech in which he spoke of "secret societies" and a worldwide conspiracy involving the media. JFK was publicly shot in the head and his "assassin" was executed live on TV before ever going to trial. Polls showed that the majority of Americans did not believe the official story of his assassination.

[Bel88]

Ah, so it's his job within the Illuminati department of the 'NWO Conspiracy' to pretend to be on the side of the people, when in fact he's a plant, a double-agent so to speak. Yeah, nah! I don't think so. Conspiracy theorists generally ARE nuts!

[maverick2022]

People in general are nuts. For example, you assuming that I just said David Icke is a double agent. Nobody gets that famous without being allowed to be.

[Bel88]

"... without being allowed to be". - "Allowed" by whom? This is silly. Things just happen, and quite often we simply cannot figure out why. There is no grand, over-arching conspiracy; life is basically what it appears to be, and there are no deeper levels to it.

[maverick2022]

I guess it's only you that has inside information then. To many people, there does appear to be a conspiracy involving the media. JFK thought so too before he was assassinated.

[progboy]

Is he still around? I thought he'd faded into obscurity. I remember him appearing on Wogan (a primetime guest show on the BBC) in the 80s and everyone in the audience was pissing themselves laughing at all the crazy shit he was coming out with! Presumably you're referring to this part of his career and not his time as goalie for Ipswich Town.

[Bel88]

I'm referring to the garbage he likes to spout now, in 2022 on 'YouTube'.

[progboy]

Sounds like it's pretty similar to the stuff in the 80s. I didn't realise he was still doing it.

[jshm2]

No. The opposite.

He is a very clever marketer and knows how to draw in a crowd. Trump actually uses the same tricks to appear more than he is.

The video clip isn't very good, as it doesn't understand conspiracies are as much a marketing tool for the individual and his business, than a "pathway" to mass synchronicity.

[Anonymous]

i'm well aware of who david icke is and he's close with his theory but not exact. the royals were made by the reptilians draconians and greys also there's a strong possibility they could be a reptilian human hybrid with more human dna and a little bit of reptilian dna inside them but shape shifting reptilians or draconians or greys no

[userxvi]

My general understanding is that they themselves are not secretly aliens but instead the "elite" contact or are contacted/influenced by what would be be called either negative aliens or probably more accurately negative higher dimensional beings and those beings work through the elite to try accomplish there wishes which would be enslave us I guess

[Bel88]

Yeah, they're not that either. Even if aliens existed (and they don't), why would they even bother with such a primitive and backwards-thinking species as us? They'd have better things to do.

[userxvi]

Okay

[goaded]

That's been obvious for decades. I remember him being on TV in the 1990s and talking about wearing purple.

[driven159]

most of the crap that comes out of their mouths they don't believe they do it to get ratings and fans it's for the money that's it

[Still-alive]

thats a duhhh lol and he's clearly capitalizing on how gullible people are

[admles]

He is an absolute moron.

Complete and utter moron.

[zagor]

So you're saying Icke is icky?

[Bel88]

Yep.

[anylolone]

He's insane, but those conspiracies aren't originally his either.

[RolandCuthbert]

There are dozens of Icke followers at GaG.

[echoecho1234]

Yes, I think he is mental

[nawtee_me]

yes he is a few beers short of a six pack...

[JR1100]

Yup. He's out to lunch.

[888theGreat]

yea , he is a nut