I will j ust say this: War is the world most profitable business for any party involved, where the ones who are in the war business, do not give a ratz about the human being , they only care for the mighty dollars or pounds or yens, etc etc each will get from being in war. Besides being the most profitable business is the most dumbest business as well. Everything comes down to $$$$$$
People are saying Putin is evil BUT... What did Ukraine do to Russia (Putin) to get him to this point? Putin isn't doing this for no reason. Ukraine president had to have did some shady business deal or didn't follow through with an agreement. He's just as bad as putin. Putin can't take all the blame. Ukraine president left his citizens in the dark up until thus point
I think that president who is running Ukraine wants to bring back the USSR except that this time they (Ukraine) are going to run it now that they got more support from the world and think they are the victims here. and of course that is the last thing Putin and all of Russia wants, that's gonna fuck up their image and economy hard
@Uptowngirl88 You're either not watching the news and the history documentaries, or you are but are totally disregarding them altogether. Ukraine didn't do anything to get to this point. This whole thing is all about Putin's goal for YEARS to take back a country that he is running a strawman argument on that is "ethnically Russian" and should be absorbed into Russia. Which in turn would be give him more of an ability to take complete control of Europe which has also been his goal for years.
The reason this is true is because he could easily try to do this by going across the Black Sea to Romania or through Belarus which is also next door to Russia, and is one of their biggest puppet governments, but he's choosing Ukraine because it's the second largest country in Europe and has - of course - resources he can take advantage of. Plus it adds a significant bonus of land mass to Russia.
No doubt, Ukraine has had corruption in their past, but this is has been due to puppet leaders loyal to Russia, who staged elections to get or keep themselves in power like Victor Yanukovich. The reason they even have Zelenskiy now is because the people finally had a chance at a fair election. None of this is Ukraine's fault. This is all about a 70 year-old tired alpha male with pipe dreams of controlling Europe.
@ManOnFire I don't trust the news. It's left wing vs right wing. You can't believe what they say on the news. They will twist and turn words in order to meet their agenda.
From what I learned from an Estonian YouTuber (Artur Rahi), Ukraine has been wanting to join NATO. Russia doesn't want this because he want buffer countries between Russia and NATO nations. Thats why he is invading.
@ManOnFire I wasn't a into history throughout school but when it came to hearing about German soldiers, the usrr, Anne frank, salem witch trials, Greek and Egyptian mythology I was pretty intrigued.
@ManOnFire but I still don't know if Ukraine is completely innocent I think their leader is somewhat corrupt himself as most of these leaders are. But question, why would Putin all of a sudden do this now? He's had time to do this before.
@Uptowngirl88 he thought it would be like Crimea and they'd instantly give up but that didn'y happen and he can't pull out or he looks weak. Ukraine is like our mexico so Mexico becoming commies we would find some shady way to make sure it doesn't happen through proxy, Russia used there full military force which is their mistake.
@Uptowngirl88 because 5 years ago Trump was in office. You think its a coincidence that we have brain dead Biden in office he decides to invade. They were gearing up for it when Obama was in office.
No, I doubt Nato will risk all over Ukraine, And I actually think they aren't up to a conventional war with Russia, specifically the S400 which is better than anything Nato has. But offense wise, Nato have the technological advantage.
However Putin is no fooll. He picked an opportunity virtually handled to him by disarray in the west, with the U. S having an empty cardboard box as commander and chief and a lovely diverse inclusive military... May as well continue through to the Nth Sea Vlad.
Hitler also gambled correctly regarding the Rhineland. Against the advice of his generals. When waek, West wears weak and exudes weak all over. Boris bluster is funny. But I'm over funny. Slink away bore-us
I don't think we would even be able to see much if WW3 really happens... I think one of the first things they would do is to cut off communications, which means the internet as we know it, will be gone...
if Russia overtakes Ukraine... a lot of billionaires will get even richer
but if they defend Ukraine... it will cost them a lot of money and lives
it might get uglier, possibly... no such thing as world wide war
If America or any other European country try to go against Russia then yes it would become a ww3 and we're going to be in deep shit. I'm European I'm screwed.
@WideOpenMind4Eyes2C I have a basement I guess it can protect me XD Also I'm sure my village have bunker and stuff since they have been invaded and attacked during ww2, it was under Italian then German domination so we most likely have some bunker out there
D. C. is our capitol. District of Columbia. It’s where the White House and president reside. The seat of power for America… Ide love to see 1000 nukes headed to D. C and see how many they can shoot down before one lands.
Russia must leave Ukraine and Putin must be arrested and stand trial for crimes against Civilization and crimes against Humanity. The only way to avert World War III is if the Russian people rise up and depose Putin and hand him over for trial.
I remember all the hype in early 2020 about WW3 with Trump and Iran. This one ain't gonna get out of hand for sure. I wish the best for Ukraine though, they don't deserve this.
I know. I hate this, brothers fighting and killing each other. Both should know better from last century and especially its civilian victims of which both these countries made up the vast majority of. And between both the World Wars too.
Europe become the playground for russian and amirican conflictw. If america did not interfere itself in many other countries or did not invaded in other countries and did not act like the hero although being causes of all this, this would not be so dramatic.
The reason the U. S. is involved in so many wars, is that these countries are weak, they are unwilling to defend themselves. Primarily because their Men have become Women.
Here an older quora reply by an user about the question how many countries amarica invaded
"... This list doesn't include "undercover" operations of the CIA, financing of opposition groups, coups d'etat, that is, other forms of intervention and interference.
1961: Mercenary forces recruited, organized, financed and directed by the United States invade Cuba. 1965: Dominican Republic 1966: Guatemala 1980: Organizes a military intervention in the desert of Tabas (central Iran). 1981: The “contras” war begins to eliminate the Sandinista government in Nicaragua. 1986: Launches an air strike against Libya. 1989: Invades Panama to arrest whoever was his protégé, Manuel Noriega. The operation left no less than 3,000 civilian casualties. 1991: Attacks Iraq in what is called the Gulf War (Persian). 1998: Guided by incomplete or erroneous information, attack Sudan. 1999: The USA, at the head of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), bombs Yugoslavia and causes its disintegration. 2001: Invades Afghanistan. 2003: Invades Iraq. 2011: Attack Libya. 2011: Support terrorists and armed groups to try to overthrow the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Asad. 2018: Bombed Syria"
@PAcc92 it is not American's job to teach anyone lesson. Just protect your own border. It also interfered themself in to many muslim countries? These countries are patriarchial. So I actually dont understand how their men are women? At least you admit and dont deny it
Is that also not bad for americans. You all could use the money for the American citizens. You also can protect your country on your own border and not abroad by interfering yourself in other countries conflicts or whatever
I don't want America playing world police, I want NATO to stand on it's own. I want those countries to defend themselves rather than pouring that money into welfare to weaken their own Men, and ensure Women can live off the state.
Western European Men are generally very effeminate.
We are close to it. Several are still in denyal. I don't blame them. People who lived WW2 never imagined it neither. Hell, after all people never imagined a pandemic neither. I just hope for this time I am wrong.
C. It’s possible. If Russia invades Ukraine and pulls out or retains control of Ukraine or part of it? No. If Russia pushes westward and then China invades Taiwan and then Russia and China form an alliance? Yes.
No Biden will sanction Russia, there will be an insurgency for a few years, and then once relations improve between the US and Russia, Russian troops will withdraw maybe keeping the eastern provinces and Crimea.
Future historians might debate that WWIII has begun at this point like some claim that WWII begun when Japan invaded China but its not a WWIII yet. If China invades Taiwan then it is another matter.
No, too many wimps in Europe and the USA. Everyone will just use words to condemn it, even on GAG. But how many Europeans, Americans and GAGers would really risk their lives for Ukraine? That is why WWII won't break out.
No. Simply because we are in a globalized economy, where no country can live without doing business with the rest of the world. Even China and the US can't go to war, because they're interdependent, the fall of one is the fall of the other.
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I will j ust say this: War is the world most profitable business for any party involved, where the ones who are in the war business, do not give a ratz about the human being , they only care for the mighty dollars or pounds or yens, etc etc each will get from being in war. Besides being the most profitable business is the most dumbest business as well. Everything comes down to $$$$$$
That's true.
People are saying Putin is evil BUT... What did Ukraine do to Russia (Putin) to get him to this point? Putin isn't doing this for no reason. Ukraine president had to have did some shady business deal or didn't follow through with an agreement. He's just as bad as putin. Putin can't take all the blame. Ukraine president left his citizens in the dark up until thus point
I think that president who is running Ukraine wants to bring back the USSR except that this time they (Ukraine) are going to run it now that they got more support from the world and think they are the victims here. and of course that is the last thing Putin and all of Russia wants, that's gonna fuck up their image and economy hard
@Uptowngirl88 You're either not watching the news and the history documentaries, or you are but are totally disregarding them altogether. Ukraine didn't do anything to get to this point. This whole thing is all about Putin's goal for YEARS to take back a country that he is running a strawman argument on that is "ethnically Russian" and should be absorbed into Russia. Which in turn would be give him more of an ability to take complete control of Europe which has also been his goal for years.
The reason this is true is because he could easily try to do this by going across the Black Sea to Romania or through Belarus which is also next door to Russia, and is one of their biggest puppet governments, but he's choosing Ukraine because it's the second largest country in Europe and has - of course - resources he can take advantage of. Plus it adds a significant bonus of land mass to Russia.
No doubt, Ukraine has had corruption in their past, but this is has been due to puppet leaders loyal to Russia, who staged elections to get or keep themselves in power like Victor Yanukovich. The reason they even have Zelenskiy now is because the people finally had a chance at a fair election. None of this is Ukraine's fault. This is all about a 70 year-old tired alpha male with pipe dreams of controlling Europe.
@ManOnFire I don't trust the news. It's left wing vs right wing. You can't believe what they say on the news. They will twist and turn words in order to meet their agenda.
From what I learned from an Estonian YouTuber (Artur Rahi), Ukraine has been wanting to join NATO. Russia doesn't want this because he want buffer countries between Russia and NATO nations. Thats why he is invading.
@ManOnFire but I do agree with the rest of what you're saying aswell as @Amur8711
@Uptowngirl88 If you don't want to believe the media at least believe history. History doesn't lie.
@ManOnFire I wasn't a into history throughout school but when it came to hearing about German soldiers, the usrr, Anne frank, salem witch trials, Greek and Egyptian mythology I was pretty intrigued.
@ManOnFire but I still don't know if Ukraine is completely innocent I think their leader is somewhat corrupt himself as most of these leaders are. But question, why would Putin all of a sudden do this now? He's had time to do this before.
@Uptowngirl88 he thought it would be like Crimea and they'd instantly give up but that didn'y happen and he can't pull out or he looks weak. Ukraine is like our mexico so Mexico becoming commies we would find some shady way to make sure it doesn't happen through proxy, Russia used there full military force which is their mistake.
@Uptowngirl88 because 5 years ago Trump was in office. You think its a coincidence that we have brain dead Biden in office he decides to invade. They were gearing up for it when Obama was in office.
@Amur8711 they don't call him sleep 😴 Joe for nothing🤣💀💀
@Fuentes facts, putin is too power hungry, too alpha, too head strong to pull out. He likes and wants to be feared
No, I doubt Nato will risk all over Ukraine, And I actually think they aren't up to a conventional war with Russia, specifically the S400 which is better than anything Nato has. But offense wise, Nato have the technological advantage.
However Putin is no fooll. He picked an opportunity virtually handled to him by disarray in the west, with the U. S having an empty cardboard box as commander and chief and a lovely diverse inclusive military... May as well continue through to the Nth Sea Vlad.
Hitler also gambled correctly regarding the Rhineland. Against the advice of his generals. When waek, West wears weak and exudes weak all over. Boris bluster is funny. But I'm over funny. Slink away bore-us
not even close, no...
I don't think we would even be able to see much if WW3 really happens... I think one of the first things they would do is to cut off communications, which means the internet as we know it, will be gone...
if Russia overtakes Ukraine... a lot of billionaires will get even richer
but if they defend Ukraine... it will cost them a lot of money and lives
it might get uglier, possibly... no such thing as world wide war
If America or any other European country try to go against Russia then yes it would become a ww3 and we're going to be in deep shit. I'm European I'm screwed.
Go Putin lol. Tell your buddy to nuke dc for me.
They won't. I don't think.
But I also ignored the buildup believing it a bluff or show to show off their forces.
So start digging your bunker. But no, I don't think it will happen myself
@VanillaSalt What's dc?
@WideOpenMind4Eyes2C I have a basement I guess it can protect me XD
Also I'm sure my village have bunker and stuff since they have been invaded and attacked during ww2, it was under Italian then German domination so we most likely have some bunker out there
D. C. is our capitol. District of Columbia. It’s where the White House and president reside. The seat of power for America… Ide love to see 1000 nukes headed to D. C and see how many they can shoot down before one lands.
Russia must leave Ukraine and Putin must be arrested and stand trial for crimes against Civilization and crimes against Humanity. The only way to avert World War III is if the Russian people rise up and depose Putin and hand him over for trial.
Yes, exactly.
I remember all the hype in early 2020 about WW3 with Trump and Iran. This one ain't gonna get out of hand for sure. I wish the best for Ukraine though, they don't deserve this.
It's a regional conflict between Russia and another former Soviet state. It's very far short of a World War.
What about Putin's threats to attack any nation who hits at Russia?
Tears for the ukranians, people are suffering and dying now... and russian soldiers. not yet... lets hope not.
I know. I hate this, brothers fighting and killing each other. Both should know better from last century and especially its civilian victims of which both these countries made up the vast majority of.
And between both the World Wars too.
Europe become the playground for russian and amirican conflictw. If america did not interfere itself in many other countries or did not invaded in other countries and did not act like the hero although being causes of all this, this would not be so dramatic.
I see too many europeans hating america and russia right now.
Even if america did not invade, it involved itself in too many wars
https://youtu.be/0C10eF9nYbo
The reason the U. S. is involved in so many wars, is that these countries are weak, they are unwilling to defend themselves. Primarily because their Men have become Women.
Here an older quora reply by an user about the question how many countries amarica invaded
"...
This list doesn't include "undercover" operations of the CIA, financing of opposition groups, coups d'etat, that is, other forms of intervention and interference.
1961: Mercenary forces recruited, organized, financed and directed by the United States invade Cuba.
1965: Dominican Republic
1966: Guatemala
1980: Organizes a military intervention in the desert of Tabas (central Iran).
1981: The “contras” war begins to eliminate the Sandinista government in Nicaragua.
1986: Launches an air strike against Libya.
1989: Invades Panama to arrest whoever was his protégé, Manuel Noriega. The operation left no less than 3,000 civilian casualties.
1991: Attacks Iraq in what is called the Gulf War (Persian).
1998: Guided by incomplete or erroneous information, attack Sudan.
1999: The USA, at the head of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), bombs Yugoslavia and causes its disintegration.
2001: Invades Afghanistan.
2003: Invades Iraq.
2011: Attack Libya.
2011: Support terrorists and armed groups to try to overthrow the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Asad.
2018: Bombed Syria"
@PAcc92 it is not American's job to teach anyone lesson. Just protect your own border. It also interfered themself in to many muslim countries? These countries are patriarchial. So I actually dont understand how their men are women? At least you admit and dont deny it
Is that also not bad for americans. You all could use the money for the American citizens. You also can protect your country on your own border and not abroad by interfering yourself in other countries conflicts or whatever
The NATO is also to blamed
@hi_it_is_me123 Holy fuck, welcome to 2003.
I don't want America playing world police, I want NATO to stand on it's own. I want those countries to defend themselves rather than pouring that money into welfare to weaken their own Men, and ensure Women can live off the state.
Western European Men are generally very effeminate.
@Ryfyle wtf?
@hi_it_is_me123 Europeans have always hated Americans, they straight up danced in the streets for 9/11
We are close to it. Several are still in denyal. I don't blame them. People who lived WW2 never imagined it neither. Hell, after all people never imagined a pandemic neither. I just hope for this time I am wrong.
C. It’s possible. If Russia invades Ukraine and pulls out or retains control of Ukraine or part of it? No. If Russia pushes westward and then China invades Taiwan and then Russia and China form an alliance? Yes.
No Biden will sanction Russia, there will be an insurgency for a few years, and then once relations improve between the US and Russia, Russian troops will withdraw maybe keeping the eastern provinces and Crimea.
Future historians might debate that WWIII has begun at this point like some claim that WWII begun when Japan invaded China but its not a WWIII yet.
If China invades Taiwan then it is another matter.
Watch this for answers to that
https://youtu.be/hwKrL_fifYYNo, too many wimps in Europe and the USA. Everyone will just use words to condemn it, even on GAG. But how many Europeans, Americans and GAGers would really risk their lives for Ukraine? That is why WWII won't break out.
True point.
Not until or unless Russia attempts to invade a NATO country, so it depends on the extent of Putin's ambition.
No. Simply because we are in a globalized economy, where no country can live without doing business with the rest of the world. Even China and the US can't go to war, because they're interdependent, the fall of one is the fall of the other.
War is very complicated I think Ukraine and Russia will make peace.
Ww3 will not happen somebody will just send a nuke and it's over.
No the leaders of the world is to selfish to put their own interests below the need to help Ukraine.