Russia has now invaded Ukraine? Do you think World War lll is really here?

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CuriousJC · Accepted Answer

National History Channel: TV Show Wars Season 12, episode 45: The Russo-Ukrainian.
The Russo-Ukrainian War is an ongoing armed conflict that began in February 2014, primarily involving Russia and pro-Russian forces on one hand, and Ukraine on the other. The conflict initially centred on the status of Crimea and parts of the Donbas, which are internationally recognised as part of Ukraine. The conflict has included the Russian annexation of Crimea (2014), the Donbas War (2014–present), naval incidents, cyberwarfare, political tensions, and Russian military buildups near Ukraine's borders from 2021. Russia moved forces into the separatist-controlled regions on 22 February 2022. This culminated in a full Russian invasion of Ukraine on 24 February. Following the Euromaidan protests and the subsequent removal of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych on 22 February 2014, and amidst pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine, Russian soldiers without insignias took control of strategic positions and infrastructure within the Ukrainian territory of Crimea. On 1 March 2014, the Federation Council of the Russian Federation unanimously adopted a resolution to petition Russian President Vladimir Putin to use military force in Ukraine. The resolution was adopted several days later, after the start of the Russian military operation on the "Returning of Crimea". Russia then annexed Crimea after a widely criticised local referendum which was organised by Russia after the capturing of the Crimean Parliament whose outcome was for the Autonomous Republic of Crimea to join the Russian Federation. In April, demonstrations by pro-Russian groups in the Donbas area of Ukraine escalated into a war between the Ukrainian government and the Russian-backed separatist forces of the self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. In August, Russian military vehicles crossed the border in several locations of Donetsk Oblast. The incursion by the Russian military was seen as responsible for the defeat of Ukrainian forces in early September. In November 2014, the Ukrainian military reported intensive movement of troops and equipment from Russia into the separatist-controlled parts of the eastern Ukraine. The Associated Press reported 40 unmarked military vehicles on the move in rebel-controlled areas. The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Special Monitoring Mission observed convoys of heavy weapons and tanks in DPR-controlled territory without insignia. OSCE monitors further stated they observed vehicles transporting ammunition and soldiers' dead bodies crossing the Russian-Ukrainian border under the guise of humanitarian aid convoys. As of early August 2015, OSCE observed over 21 such vehicles marked with the Russian military code for soldiers killed in action.[88] According to The Moscow Times, Russia has tried to intimidate and silence human rights workers discussing Russian soldiers' deaths in the conflict. OSCE has reported that its observers were denied access to the areas controlled by "combined Russian-separatist forces". The majority of members of the international community and organizations such as Amnesty International have condemned Russia for its actions in post-revolutionary Ukraine, accusing it of breaking international law and violating Ukrainian sovereignty. Many countries implemented economic sanctions against Russia, Russian individuals or companies. In October 2015, The Washington Post reported that Russia has redeployed some of its elite units from Ukraine to Syria to support Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. In December 2015, Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin admitted that Russian military intelligence officers were operating in Ukraine, insisting though that they were not the same as regular troops. In February 2019, 7% of Ukraine's territory was classified by the Ukrainian government as temporarily occupied territories.

OpenClose · Accepted Answer

I can't say either way. Like I'm pretty sure Russia will take Ukraine, but that's out of sheer numbers and economy. NATO members have our hands tied as NATO involvement WOULD turn it into WWIII. So on that front, we'll have to see if Putin stops there.

But if he goes straight for the Baltics afterwards, that IS NATO territory.

But it's a lot of the language and other tensions that have me on edge. Russia setting their defenses on high alert. Russia and China making a banking deal incase Russia is pulled from SWIFT. China looking like they're trying to make a play for Taiwan after we're all distracted. The US pulling manufacturing from China to the states.

Don't get me wrong. That last one is AWESOME. We need to stop relying on other countries for things we can make HERE. Especially since we might get to see the Midwest become a new Silicon Valley if things play out right. And I'm tired of celebrities cutting Tibetan characters from movies, or apologizing for calling Taiwan a country. Like, imagine if we pulled Batman or Iron Man because we portrayed a "member of the bourgeoise as a hero", and then apologized to the USSR for it. WTF.

Biden might have said "It wouldn't be much of a world war since the world is against them". But with China's involvement, it definitely WOULD be a world war.

But at the very least, it's heartening to see so many anti-war protests all throughout the USSR. Even Russian soldiers in Ukraine are relatively unenthusiastic because they aren't totally aligned with Putin's objective. It's important to remember that wars are primarily waged between world leaders. "The Russians" aren't our enemies. "The Chinese" aren't our enemies. Oligarchs with nuke buttons are.

Rabbagail · Accepted Answer

It's just all about NATO for me. SO many European countries are in it like France, the UK, Italy, so much more. If Russia were to even enter one of those countries, USA would be involved because in the 1940s they vowed to protect countries in the NATO movement. It would be WW3, and a new event for history.

adamjanovic · Accepted Answer

Putin is evil, but not stupid. He’s not going to be insane enough to invade a country that belongs to NATO (which Ukraine does not) because that would be suicide for him. And he’s going to have his hands full trying to take and then keep control of Ukraine before he can even try to invade anyone else.

ThisDudeHere · Answer

Russia is behaving the way it is because of existential threats. Russia has multiple geographic barriers that are easy to defend - of which it has secured only three. The rest fell away when the USSR collapsed, which had secured al of them. Russia's population is about to take a huge hit in the coming two decades. If they don't act now, they'll be in for a lot of shit.

I'm not excusing them, just giving context.

virtue2332 · Answer

I think what we are seeing here is Russia testing the water. My concern is that Russia could be feeling more emboldened and it wouldn't take much to give them reassurance to take a risk. It would come down to risk vs reward. On their own I don't think they risk it however with reassurances from say China that they would not retaliate and have some support if someone did step in it becomes less risky. For China the strategic advantage is to see how everyone reacts and on what time frame. So they could give reassurance to Russia just to see how things play out. They could use this info to and relate it to their Taiwan goals. Not good for anyone that would want to get along. Being a Veteran having been overseas close to that region I can say we are always ready for anything and have a capable force I can also say it would be costly and dangerous for all of humanity. What I think what could stop it would be for everyone who has the means would be to document what's going on and show the world first hand what war really looks like. It's easy for the media to gloss over and politicize the images they show. We are in an age were any can video with thier phones. Live stream show what this is like uncensored because it's easy to make decisions and take sides when people aren't faced with what this looks like. Hearing about casualties vs seeing first hand what it actually looks like and sounds like are two different things.

MarkRet · Answer

Probably not. This kind of all started when the west or the US tried to talk Ukraine into joining NATO. Putin won't allow that, and it brings us closer to confrontation. Biden won't do much more than issue sanctions, and the rest of the western countries always look to the US to 'do something'.

There could be a better way to handle this: Ukraine could just hand over the disputed territories to Russia (the Ukrainians never really had much control over those areas anyway), in exchange for ethnic Russians in Ukraine to be relocated to these areas, and ethnic Ukrainians be relocated out of those areas. Ukraine could then behave like Finland, and not deal with the west or Russians again, but that would require out-of-the-box thinking, which Biden isn't capable of doing.

FakeName123 · Answer

We will see.

Ever since 2010 I was predicting hyperinflation to come with the next real depression. We are now at the very start of it while simultaneously all nations are startnig to become more aggressive. For like 10+ years the EU and USA have been using sanctions against Russia while simultaneously increasing their military presence in Poland and Ukraine. Quite frankly - it was just a matter of time until Russia stops taking the hits and goes on the offense. This is a surprised Pikachu face moment right there. If you poke a wild animal long enough it will eventually bite.

Could this be the catalyst to world war? Absolutely. But I don't think its ever the reason. There has been a lot of things going on way prior to this - let alone the ongoing civil war that Ukraine has been since 2014.

VanillaSalt · Answer

If we have ww3 is cause biden hits the Russian mainland. Let’s be frank about this… the USA setup a puppet government in Ukraine. Ukraine expressed interest in being in NATO… the USA is overthrowing “dictators” and putting in their own puppet governments all around the world…this is true period. If the world wasn’t split in two USA would own it all and would then negative as a monopoly and do as they want.

there’s a certain safety in multiple powers maintaining a deadlock. Like nukes. Imagine if only one country has nukes. Not afraid to use them. Now imagine if the world was under USA control.

Putin’s taking a foothold and strengthening his position. Worst case him and biden will exchange blows for a while then come to an “agreement” where by Russia comes out slightly ahead of where it was before.

imfreeze95 · Answer

As someone who has studied history for a long time (20 years) I would say that it is a very high likelihood that if the talks between Russia and Ukraine fall through then it is a very high likelihood. allow me to explain

1: Hitler invaded the Sudetenland the rest of Czechoslovakia under the guise of Ethnic German Protection. Putin has invaded Crimea and now has invaded the rest of Ukraine for similar reasons
2 NATO is now in a very similar position as the League of Nations After World War I
sedentary and ineffectual
3 Our enemies Know it

Lliam · Answer

Not unless the U. S. decides to start it. Russia is just neutralizing Ukrainian military forces and U. S. bioweapons labs. It's not trying to take over Ukraine and has no intention of going further.

Ukrainian forces have massacred over 14,000 civilians since 2014. Russia finally stepped in to protect people in Donbas from artillery and snipers. The main thing that Russia refused to accept was the possibility of U. S. nukes in Ukraine.

Since the "invasion" the Ukrainian government has magically decided to negotiate neutrality with Russia. That's what Russia has been trying to do for almost 8 years. So I think this will all be over soon.

FreyaRed · Answer

Russia will use nukes if someone tries to attack their territory. Russian foreign mister threats my country regulary since three decades with nuclear strike, since we aren't anymore member of Warsaw Pact, nevertheless our government sent two days back hundreds portable air defense missiles, German helmets and body armors to defenders in Ukraine.
Some people think it's crazy but with drunk animals like Russians you shouldn't never show fear, because if you afraid of them they will attack you.

The_Shadow_Dweller · Answer

I believed at start, but the situation is not that grave. But near to it.
All will be decided on how the leaders, including President Putin, react to the circumstances.

Recently watched a WWIII video on youtube. How will it proceed, what will happen afterwards. Everything. The superpowers now, don't want that, 100%.

DaveJord · Answer

I said no, because I do not think NATO has as a whole as the intestinal fortitude to grow a pair as an organization. Maybe the Five English speaking countries... (Canada, Austria, United Kingdom, New Zealand and the United States) will grow a pair... but the Frenchie's and Germans will bail.

Anonymous · Answer

Matthew 24:
and Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
And ye shall hear of wars

and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Anonymous · Answer

Not likely but Putin may try to threaten NATO and test the resolve of the alliance. There’s no question he’d like to go further. Putin thought the fall of the Soviet Union was the worst catastrophe the world had seen, while most of the planet celebrated. He’s not a good man.

genericname85 · Answer

well that depends whether the UN/USA decides to start a war about that or if they just decide to let that slide, cause they've been in violation of the peace treaties with russia for decades also.

i mean ukraine is a fucked up country either way. wether russia "invades" or usa "brings democracy" is not a real difference to them.

JSmuve · Answer

Doubtful. With all the nuclear weapons that Russia has, the west would sooner throw Ukraine to the wolves than risk war with Russia and a war-mongering ideologue like Putin. But who knows, WW2 started with one country invading another.

Anonymous · Answer

I'd say this is only the genesis of World War 3. History does indeed repeat itself and if history tells us anything that this will lead to a major war.
I mean all we can really do is hope it doesn't but the sad truth is, it is more than likely to turn into one.

Loveisgirthy · Answer

I'm one to not believe or care about any politician. Everyone's pawns who think they are kings and that's how capitalism wants it, but Putin does seem legitimate in just doing what he's set out to do and not anything further after Ukraine. But honestly I'm just so done hearing about all of it. All my elders care about is politics. You see them fighting getting all riled up over simple differences and their wives just sitting back dry as the Sahara's dryest carcass. It's insane we'll discuss and fight to our graves and nothing we say could change it.

Diodoro · Answer

Potentially, but unlikely with how well Ukraine is holding up. I don't think Russia expected this big of a fight

Deathraider · Answer

I think fighting is only going to be localized to Ukraine. No European countries want to take Putin out of power by force, that would lead to chaos in Russia. Russia wants Ukraine, Russia attacking outside of Ukraine would only escalate the war, which wouldn’t help Russia at all. If Russia attacked NATO, they know they’re dead.

Ryfyle · Answer

For the morons cheering for Russia in the no existant hope that some Blackmail Data will be released on some US politicians, get real. If that were to happen, Putin would be dead withing the minute and a new puppet will be installed. All of this a distraction from the WEF infiltrating governments across the globe.

mrpt1986 · Answer

I think ww3 will begin only if china started invading taiwan
What happened in ukraine was russia protecting her own borders
NATO is really trying to surround Russian territory which is something Russia will never accept
Its their own national security

kitty71 · Answer

I will j ust say this: War is the world most profitable business for any party involved, where the ones who are in the war business, do not give a ratz about the human being , they only care for the mighty dollars or pounds or yens, etc etc each will get from being in war. Besides being the most profitable business is the most dumbest business as well. Everything comes down to $$$$$$

Uptowngirl88 · Answer

People are saying Putin is evil BUT... What did Ukraine do to Russia (Putin) to get him to this point? Putin isn't doing this for no reason. Ukraine president had to have did some shady business deal or didn't follow through with an agreement. He's just as bad as putin. Putin can't take all the blame. Ukraine president left his citizens in the dark up until thus point

alice55 · Answer

If America or any other European country try to go against Russia then yes it would become a ww3 and we're going to be in deep shit. I'm European I'm screwed.

WideOpenMind4Eyes2C · Answer

No, I doubt Nato will risk all over Ukraine, And I actually think they aren't up to a conventional war with Russia, specifically the S400 which is better than anything Nato has. But offense wise, Nato have the technological advantage.

However Putin is no fooll. He picked an opportunity virtually handled to him by disarray in the west, with the U. S having an empty cardboard box as commander and chief and a lovely diverse inclusive military... May as well continue through to the Nth Sea Vlad.

Hitler also gambled correctly regarding the Rhineland. Against the advice of his generals. When waek, West wears weak and exudes weak all over. Boris bluster is funny. But I'm over funny. Slink away bore-us

NathanDavis · Answer

not even close, no...

I don't think we would even be able to see much if WW3 really happens... I think one of the first things they would do is to cut off communications, which means the internet as we know it, will be gone...

if Russia overtakes Ukraine... a lot of billionaires will get even richer

but if they defend Ukraine... it will cost them a lot of money and lives

it might get uglier, possibly... no such thing as world wide war

fireforeffect · Answer

Russia must leave Ukraine and Putin must be arrested and stand trial for crimes against Civilization and crimes against Humanity. The only way to avert World War III is if the Russian people rise up and depose Putin and hand him over for trial.

Datboi65 · Answer

I remember all the hype in early 2020 about WW3 with Trump and Iran. This one ain't gonna get out of hand for sure. I wish the best for Ukraine though, they don't deserve this.

EnglishEuropean · Answer

It's a regional conflict between Russia and another former Soviet state. It's very far short of a World War.

lightbulb27 · Answer

Tears for the ukranians, people are suffering and dying now... and russian soldiers. not yet... lets hope not.

hi_it_is_me123 · Answer

Europe become the playground for russian and amirican conflictw. If america did not interfere itself in many other countries or did not invaded in other countries and did not act like the hero although being causes of all this, this would not be so dramatic.

DiegoO · Answer

We are close to it. Several are still in denyal. I don't blame them. People who lived WW2 never imagined it neither. Hell, after all people never imagined a pandemic neither. I just hope for this time I am wrong.

Mangospacho · Answer

C. It’s possible. If Russia invades Ukraine and pulls out or retains control of Ukraine or part of it? No. If Russia pushes westward and then China invades Taiwan and then Russia and China form an alliance? Yes.

Jackblue · Answer

No Biden will sanction Russia, there will be an insurgency for a few years, and then once relations improve between the US and Russia, Russian troops will withdraw maybe keeping the eastern provinces and Crimea.

VikingWarLord · Answer

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Anonymous · Answer

No, too many wimps in Europe and the USA. Everyone will just use words to condemn it, even on GAG. But how many Europeans, Americans and GAGers would really risk their lives for Ukraine? That is why WWII won't break out.

EternalInfobot · Answer

Not until or unless Russia attempts to invade a NATO country, so it depends on the extent of Putin's ambition.

Guanfei · Answer

No. Simply because we are in a globalized economy, where no country can live without doing business with the rest of the world. Even China and the US can't go to war, because they're interdependent, the fall of one is the fall of the other.

Pohjolan · Answer

Future historians might debate that WWIII has begun at this point like some claim that WWII begun when Japan invaded China but its not a WWIII yet. If China invades Taiwan then it is another matter.

Koalamate · Answer

War is very complicated I think Ukraine and Russia will make peace. Ww3 will not happen somebody will just send a nuke and it's over.

Adam1978 · Answer

No the leaders of the world is to selfish to put their own interests below the need to help Ukraine.

Amur8711 · Answer

As an American I think We need to support Ukraine because from what I understand Ukraine has been trying to join NATO so they have a better chance staying independent from Russia. Russia doesn't want to lose buffer counties to NATO nations.

loveslongnails · Answer

Who's gonna join Russia if the rest of the world unites against them, besides Trump and a few idiot Republicans?

ChefPapiChulo · Answer

it could. it's in the back of everyone's mind. Russia doesn't want scraps anymore; it wants to be the major power. But it can't because they are vicious and dictators. And the world won't allow it.

Troyana123 · Answer

Nope... Russia can't aford a world war just a local conflict

Anonymous · Answer

No. But battle lines may be being drawn. When China was asked, they said they didn't consider it a invasion of Ukraine. And that the United States has been fanning the flames. They said the fact that Russia ISN'T targeting the major population centers (yet) shows that this is a defensive act so to speak.
This can escalate if countries like China who we already have a strained relationship with right now reaches the point where they feel compelled to take a side.

grega239 · Answer

Ww3 starts Feminists

DWornock · Answer

Unless our masters have gone totally insane, we will do nothing except continue to lie about Ukraine. The USA cannot win a conventional war near Russia and, if it goes nuclear, the USA and another billion or more people are history.

LBT0110100 · Answer

Well, in my opinion it depends, if other nations make wrong decisions, it would generate a world conflict (WWIII).

Ex: USA attacks Russia to "protect" Ukraine, China attacks USA to "protect" Russia, the NATO would be in need to help USA, the conflicts keep getting worse. = WWIII

EmbraceThePain · Answer

We’ll see what else transpires or takes place in the near future.  To be honest, anything can happen and people shouldn’t be shocked at whatever occurs at this point.

888theGreat · Answer

It could happen yet , especially if North Korea invades South Korea, China invades Taiwan and Iran and Israel get into it.

legalboxers · Answer

*looks for the Trumpanzees*

Razp_Sorbet · Answer

Other countries are only able to step in when Russia has tried to invade a NATO country. Until then we provide refuge, money, supplies, support and anything else we can to help Ukrainian people.

BazookaTrouper · Answer

Not yet. But it sure feels like we're on the brink of WW3 if this war escalates bad enough.

CasaNorba · Answer

most likely, and with our fucked up economy and high gas price we Americans are gonna face major consequences if we stick our noses in this one. I guess Xi Jinping got us all where he wants after all.

Man do I miss Trump more than ever now

the_sinner · Answer

Small wars like these hve happened before. In this era of multimedia it just looks like a big war because of the publicity and the hype.

whosnumber1 · Answer

along as no one challenges Russia (and I doubt no one will)

AZBlake777 · Answer

I think it depends on how far Putin is willing to go and that he’s trying to test Biden.

TheAfrikan · Answer

I would not say yet that WW3 is yet here for now. Nope not yet.

JessieBellll · Answer

No, the west won't dare or Putin will destroy the world Russia has like 7000 nukes

RolandCuthbert · Answer

Was on facebook messenger the entire day. Starting a Gofundme for three families over there.

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