Why do people say abortion is murder?

[Anonymous]

By definition murder is a crime. Maybe you should Google the definition of murder.

[willyppah]

I hope this information will be enough for you to understand why it is a murder:
(22:5) O people, if you should be in doubt about the Resurrection, then [consider that] indeed, We created you from dust, then from a sperm-drop, then from a clinging clot, and then from a lump of flesh, formed and unformed[915] - that We may show you.[916] And We settle in the wombs whom We will for a specified term, then We bring you out as a child, and then [We develop you] that you may reach your [time of] maturity. And among you is he who is taken in [early] death, and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit [old] age so that he knows, after [once having] knowledge, nothing. And you see the earth barren, but when We send down upon it rain, it quivers and swells and grows [something] of every beautiful kind.

(31:34) Indeed, Allāh [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs.[1168] And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allāh is Knowing and Aware

[MCheetah]

I don't know, man. I find the whole anti-abortion logic to be extremely moronic, to me. It's like people can't determine the difference between scrambled eggs and fried chicken wings. How eggs and chicken aren't the same food. But when you apply that same logic to a 10-day old embryo, an eight month old baby in the womb, and a five year old child, NOPE! IT'S ALL THE SAME, apparently: Murder! 🤪

Doubly ironic that so many anti-abortionists are also the type having loose sex using condoms and masturbate, which is mad hypocritical, if you ask me (as if protected sex and sex without the intent to make a baby, isn't the same f*cking thing as abortion, as are intentionally "killing sperm" through masturbation).

Murder is the premeditated thought of killing another human being. What a fetus is, what an embryo is, and "when life begins," is not clearly defined by law and none of those are clearly defined as being a "living human being." Which is why abortion isn't illegal in most of the Western world. And neither is masturbation. (Though by the pro-life argument, really shouldn't it be? Shouldn't ALL sex without baby-making be illegal?)

THESE ARE BOTH THE SAME EXACT FOODS, ACCORDING TO PRO-LIFE PEOPLE...

[Seinna]

Killing is a more neutral word and means taking someone else's life.

Murder is a cold blooded killing of another human being and it's the law makes it a crime. Killing inmates is also murder but in some countries it's not a crime.

The law also makes rape a crime but in some countries it's not a crime under some circumstances.

In some countries killing (eg in self defense) is not a crime and in others, murder (abortion) is not a crime.

Abortion can either be killing or a murder depends on the circumstances of the woman who does it.

It's different if she does it for self preservation or because she was raped (it's killing, she's not doing it in cold blood). It's different when she's doing it out of convenience because she fucked up, didn't use protection etc and is now making another innocent person pay for her mistakes (it's murder, she does it with no regard for that other person's life).

I hope this explains it sufficiently.

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

Many different reasons.

• People have different morals.
• People have different religions.
• People have different views on what is considered murder.
• People have different ideas on what is considered life (conception, first breath).
• Laws created by man don’t always mean “right” or “wrong.”

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

Speak in full sentences.

[Agape93]

That's asking a lot for a lot of these dummkopf

[OlderAndWiser]

There are different ways to define "murder," "racist," and many other words that get used in describing situations heavily laden with social judgments.

[noless10in]

Let's see "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another" so we've got a mother who's decided and scheduled (premeditated) she is going to kill the baby growing in her stomach. We have a doctor who performs the abortion which should now be at least an accessory to murder. So you have one or two people that have thought in advance about taking a life and they do. So why should the mother and the doctor not be held responsible for murder because abortion fits the definition of murder as I highlighted in quotes from Google above. States like Oklahoma have now made it a felony up to 20 years in prison so define it, call it, name it whatever you want to kill is killing which equals dead at someone else's hand. Someone else responsible for taking that life is murder. Where should we draw the limit? Congressman in Maryland put forth a bill that would allow a baby to be murdered up to 4 weeks after birth. Would you consider that murder? A fetus or baby is totally dependent on someone else to take care of it. Can't feed itself can't change its own diaper can't provide for itself so what's the harm in killing it. My grandfather is in that same condition in a nursing home should we kill him too?

[t-8900]

Life begins at conception. From my Christian perspective it's cold blooded murder and so I see those that commit the act the same as some dude who smashed his wife's head in with a hammer. Only it is a mother killing her child, her own flesh and blood that relies on her and looks to her for love and protection. For me it's not only murder of innocence but the highest manif of betrayal known to humankind. So you can imagine what I think about the women who get those procedures done and I won't apologize for it either.

[Cherry234]

Because some people are strongly against women terminating their pregnancies. I agree with you. I don't consider abortion murder. I just think of it as a medical procedure. Just like some people (particularly vegetarians and vegans) say meat is murder. It goes against their morals.

[fonduegirl]

Because most pro life people are men who never had to go through the trauma of pregnancy. True, there are some women who enjoy kids and even feel happy about pregnancy. But let's not forget, there are some who don't. And condoms break sometimes. Abortion is your best option.

[Gigi2019]

If it's your plan to casually sleep around with the opposite sex throughout your youth, why don't you save lives (of your unborn children), have your eggs harvested and put on ice, and have your tubes permanently tied? Then you can fk your brains out without murdering innocent children.

And, once you decide that you actually "want" children, you can get your fertilized eggs planted back into you?

See, there "are" decent alternatives to birth control.

[Gigi2019]

* alternatives to abortion, I mean

[JohnK123]

Damn @anon1903 u really just said that women who don’t like being pregnant from their first experience can just kill their kid. Damn

[fonduegirl]

@Gigi2019 I can do that.

[fonduegirl]

@JohnK123 I did say that. I'm glad you got me right.

[JohnK123]

Then I would hope you get a surgery to remove all your parts why would you need them if you aren’t gonna have kids? Give everything away to women who do

[fonduegirl]

@JohnK123 Id want to get a surgery if possible.

[fonduegirl]

@JohnK123 To put it politely, I'm stating not all women would enjoy motherhood.

[JohnK123]

Ik I heard you. I just hope u do remove all capabilities of reproduction if u don’t want to use them and help someone else out

[fonduegirl]

@JohnK123 I would. Thanks for your concern.

[JohnK123]

Np let me know when u do do it so I can congratulate u on helping another woman

[fonduegirl]

@JohnK123 Of course, honey.

[t-8900]

If you can't afford a kid then don't have sex. That is the best, most humane, and civilized option. You're basically saying a night of fun is more important than a life. Don't sleep with guys who won't be there for you in 6 months, simple.

[fonduegirl]

@t-8900 I don't believe I asked for your advice. I'd do what I want. Screw you.

[t-8900]

No one said you can't. We're simply talking morality which you brought up.

[t-8900]

by the way most pro life people are men fyi. Just linked it in my latest question

[t-8900]

*most are women

[fonduegirl]

@t-8900 because morality is friggin one sided.

[t-8900]

@anon1903 as a former medical professional we were always taught one thing: "do no harm"
So it just kinda stuck with me

[fonduegirl]

@t-8900 by forcing a woman to keep a baby, it'd do her harm. She'd feel very ignored and hurt that that decision was forced on her.

[JohnK123]

But same with a man as well… I hear a lot about single women this single women that… but who’s talking about single men? No one

[t-8900]

@anon1903 but no one forced her to have casual sex. She's supposed to calculate the choices she makes just like a man has to. That's part of equality and being a responsible adult. Besides no one's asking her to keep it. She can put it up for adoption. There's tons of forms of birth control and her getting pregnant should be a non issue with using multiple layers of various protection at the same time. But if she's that concerned she she maybe opt for sterilization. It's best for everyone at that point since men have no say in reproduction anyways.

[t-8900]

@JohnK123 hey if a guy is pushing for abortion he should get punished too. That's fine by me tbh. Those types of men should get snipped imho.

[JohnK123]

@t-8900 LOl I’m just saying the lack of support for male single parents is lower than that for females I’m not saying either one would want abortions I’m just saying another random fact haha

[t-8900]

@JohnK123 sorry it's like 12:30 am and I'm high on painkiller think I'll nap now

[fireforeffect]

Wrong, Women outnumber men in Prolife

[fonduegirl]

@fireforeffect And in stupidity

[Gigi2019]

Says the woman...

[fonduegirl]

@Gigi2019 I said most. Women and men who didn't get it are dumb.

[Gigi2019]

According to you.

[Mango-man]

Because you are on purpose denying another human's right to live.

Better question: Why do some people want kids to choose their gender yet want to be able to kill them before they are born.

Let's hear what a doctor who performs abortions for living has to say about the topic

https://youtu.be/OZXQBhTszpU

[noless10in]

Great post but was so fucking pissed off by three minutes in I had to stop. How in the hell can someone say that pulling a baby apart limb by limb part by part piece by piece that is growing has had a heartbeat for quite a while weeks and weeks. Just because a bad Court decision was made just because it's legal doesn't mean there's not a price to pay. Might not be in this lifetime but there will be hell to pay.

[Adam1978]

Because they don't understand what word means and trying to make it sound worse then it is. It's like those people claiming that you can murder a animal. You can't, you can only kill it, doesn't matter how horrible the process you take doing it. Murder requires that you belong to the same species and that you make it on purpose.

[fireforeffect]

What do you call the Premeditated killing of another human Being?

[Adam1978]

That is irrelevant because that isn't what abortion is. Because it's not a human yet it's a clump of cells. It's not much different from a unfertilized egg. It's not a human yet, it might become but it isn't.

[josephinelcajon]

I am in between on this. I feel there are lots of circumstances where an abortion is absolutely appropriate BUT waiting four months and having to dissect a fetus just get it out is outrageous. Someone came up with 8 weeks and a beating heart as a point of life. I agree if you can't choose by then or did not know by then you have a problem.

[TheFlak38]

here we go again. just another fine question. this is all women can do with their freedom. fuck themselves into oblivion and then murder their unborn babies. then go out to get drunk and get fucked some more. 100 years of feminism and you contributed nothing to society besides your degenerate behaviour.

[ImNoOne111]

I probably should keep my cool but that's bullshit. Abortion is not murder. If someone stabs a pregnant woman, they have killed her plus her baby without her consent. Thats why you get charged for two murders, not because of choosing to count it alive or not. I think as the woman carries the baby, she can choose abortion. @captain_voidwalker stop playing with words...

[captain_voidwalker]

We define a person as dead when thier heart stops. Logically we whould then define someone as alive when thier heart starts. Thats about 6 weeks into a pregnancy. I'm willing to not call it murder up to that point.

[Gigi2019]

@captain_voidwalker https://postimg.cc/njbGctGz

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker well, I do agree that charging for two murder doesn't sound right but without it, it would allow for a lot of ways for dear lawyears to lighten punishment of their clients so its best to keep it. I do not agree with the that 'heart stop' statement as someone in a cardiac arrest is not dead but can have a completely stopped heart. Even assuming that sentence true , it is not enough to support your next statement so I call both invalid

[ImNoOne111]

I apologize for the typo, I meant *lawyers

[captain_voidwalker]

In medical terms the heart is considered stoped after it quits besting for 10 minutes. At that point it can't be resuscitated. Until then it's termed cardiac arrest

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker Again playing with words. Asystole (sometimes also called flatline) is what you are describing, a heart stop can be because of irregular heart beat rhythm in a given time (which may or may not result into a flatline) or can mean flatline directly. Heart stop is a loosely defined term and is not even medical so you either have to accept that you chose the wrong words or continue sounding like a child. Also clinical death is when heart AND breathing stops, not only heart. And legal death is for when a physician agrees that further effort can't help which can be less then 10 or more then 10 minutes after clinical death

[captain_voidwalker]

Well I defined what they use to determine death, and used it's inverse to define when to determine life. And you have defined nothing. If you have a better means if determining when life starts let's hear it

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker You can't get a value, inverse it and expect it to always yield its reverss, so again invalid. Also, I defined clinical and legal death. About when life starts, from start of pregnancy. Mother has control of her child's life until she carries her. After it, we can call the baby a different individual

[captain_voidwalker]

And that's where I disagree, the child's life is the child's life. The mother had the choice to not conceive in the first place. Once she chooses to conceive she is responsible for the child, failing that responsibility is in my view murder. We arrest parents for neglected children after they're born so there is president for that.

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker Can the child while in her mother's body, consent to anything? Walk? Talk? Eat? Nope. The baby needs the mother. Some pregnancies are unplanned so the mother may not actually be able to avoid it happening. Besides, while its inside her, its her body, only she can choose

[captain_voidwalker]

Just because it can't consent means your justified in taking its life. And the mother consented to carry the child and to be responsible for that child at conception. And bullshit is it unplanned, condoms, pills, patches, shots, IUD's, and good ole fashioned keeping her legs closed. That's the point where it's her body her choice. Once the child is conceived its the child's body. And we haven't even started the argument about how the father should also get a say. The child is half his afterall.

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker condoms if used perfectly are 98% percent effective. So there is still risk of pregnancy, we cannot force people to keep their legs closed or use special optional protections while intercourse so yeah, the unplanned pregnancy is still a thing. About the father, I dont think you can call in the rapist to say a thing about it. So if we get to give the biological father a say, more holes will be left for lawyers to (ab) use. Also I do not believe the child is half the father's while its in the mother's body. After it, yeah but while in there no. I didn't say because it can't consent, you can take its life. I said due to its undeniable need to the mother and lack of its ability to do even basic things, I call the mother responsible for the baby, which means abortion is her choice

[captain_voidwalker]

I'm pretty sure self control is a thing. Children shouldn't be murdered because women make irresponsible decisions

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker You walk out and a bus hits you. You were irresponsible? Nah, just think before talking...

[captain_voidwalker]

If I walk onto a street without looking both ways that is irresponsible, and I'd suffer the consequences of my actions.

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker Is it convenient for the law to require you to do that? Is there enough control to enforce such law? And also, just read your statement. How can you write such thing and dont laugh? Its completely irrational in a funny way

[captain_voidwalker]

Your entire argument so far has been killing children is a better alternative to holding women accountable for thier actions. Its not me who needs to read my own statements

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker my whole sentences was letting women decide what to do with their body instead of dictating things to them. No one forces you to get your penis cut because its proven to have less chance to transfer HIV to your partner (dont even think about mentioning religion as we are talking about law, and I will not defend religion)

[captain_voidwalker]

Actually many boys are circumcised before they are old enough to make the choice themselves and it's fucking disgusting. We outlawed female genital mutilation ages ago, but male genital mutilation still runs rampant.

[ImNoOne111]

@captain_voidwalker I think law should ban that one unless its possible to do it while the baby is inside his mother as while born, now the same situation doesn't apply but your objection to how some boys are forced to is irrelevant to the topic

[andreasderjuengere]

The same people will say that a soldier going to war is NOT murder (but ''patriotism'') :D
A crime: is a local/cultural agreement or dictation on what must not be done; to secure the interests of (mainly) those in power - or groups with common interests.

Humans will always try to imprint their own opinion on others.

[MountAverage]

What they mean by "murder" is actually "killing". But it all boils down to their belief that a fertilized egg should be regarded equal to a born human. That's the core belief and that's the fundamental disagreement they have with us pro-choice people.

[jasco]

mur·der
[ˈmərdər]
NOUN
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another:
So the argument is that your killing a human being which is up for debate. Are you killing a human being or are you killing a thing? A lot of people will say its a thing while others will say its a human being. So yea

[UCrayCray]

The unlawful premeditated killing of a human. If abortion is legal, it’s not unlawful, and that means it does not meet the criteria for murder.
So not murder…. where abortion is legal.

[jasco]

Where abortion is illegal it’s considered murder so in short it’s up for debate rather or not it should be legal across the world

[UCrayCray]

Yes! Where abortion is illegal it is considered murder. Here though, it’s not.
Women having a say over her own uterus really shouldn’t be up for debate. We should have just as much say over the use of our internal organs as you, a male, have over yours.

[jasco]

But what about the baby? Does the baby matter at all? A lot of anti abortion people usually think more of the baby than the mother and while I completely agree that you have every right to do as you wish with your internal organs but again it’s not just you anymore. Theirs a baby growing inside of you. So that’s why a lot of people are anti abortion

[UCrayCray]

@jasco
“Does the baby matter at all”
Sure it does. Does it take precedence over the owner of the body it’s living off of? Nope. It does not.
I am well aware that many anti-abortionist don’t think the woman deserves any consideration. Once she’s pregnant, she becomes irrelevant to the conversation. She is a mere incubator in the minds of many. It seems those anti abortionist only worry about a life when attached to the body of a woman. Ask them to give up part of their liver to save a life, many don’t want to make the sacrifice.
So let’s be real here. Is it really about the life that hasn’t even come to fruition yet? Or is it something else.
Repeated conversation with them usually reveal that it’s something else.

[jasco]

Who knows. I don’t believe in abortion unless it’s needed like a life or death situation. Usually I would want to take every precaution I could so I wouldn’t get the girl pregnant. If she were to get rid of it than I would leave her because i just don’t want to be with someone like that. It is her choice to do as she wishes with her body and that’s fine.

[jasco]

I don’t mind being a father to a kid if it’s mind. I will gladly stay and take care of it.

[Anonymous]

Because it is murder. People come up w words to make their self feel better about things. Planned parenthood hood was started by Margret Sanger as a way to “legally” kill fetuses of race. That’s why most of their locations are in minority neighborhoods.

[jshm2]

Perhaps you should look it up?

Murder of a human is a crime. Anti-abortion types consider the human fetus as something that should be protected under law. Its not the babies fault the parents are shit.

[Sour-rose]

Perhaps because they want the baby to live in this shitty world but the poor woman wants it gone and they think it's a breathing baby and techically counts as a human life.

Or they really want someone else to suffer with kids like they did.

[fireforeffect]

The world is only a "Shitty" place because of people like you!

[Sour-rose]

@fireforeffect Okay bud, have a good day! <3

[Anonymous]

Cause they believe it is
Technically they the soul hasn't entered the body so is it really murder
Also majority of the people saying it is murder are heavily religious but God wouldn't want someone to suffer and having a child is a huge responsibility
Also its the persons choice to do what they think is best for them and the baby

[AviatorTom]

Some people view that terminating an unborn child is taking a human life and is therefore murder. There are others who think differently. That's why abortion is such a contentious issue.

[Kaamraj]

One logic would be that after a certain number of months the fetus can survive on its own and if birth is premature then it has a chance, or a good chance outside. So instead of taking it out, you are terminating it.

[BLP11520]

An unborn child is killed. The abortion industry has made millions on women who decided to have one. Some women not ALL are lazy and use no birth control. People aiways bring up rape but it is a small percentage. My wife told me after we were married had 2 abortions. She had 4 miscarriages in a row before having 2 sons. She withheld her past from me and we have never been the same. That's enough.

[Buntyp]

Because they are trying to impress on others that their personal moral beliefs take precedence over a woman's right to have control over her own body and her life.

[TexasRed95]

So the baby is you?

[Kiss_Me]

I agree totally.

"Because they are trying to impress on others that their personal moral beliefs take precedence over a woman's right to have control over her own body and her life"
- Buntyp

[fireforeffect]

The Baby is NOT HER BODY!!! The baby is a completely different person!!

[fireforeffect]

If it was the mothers body that was being aborted, then it would be the mother dying and not the baby.

[Dargil]

Because it ends a sovereign human life with its own unique DNA and, mostly, a beating heart.

[willyppah]

True. Thanks for your short delightful reply.

[NorthwestRider]

So murder is legal in your own words?

[NorthwestRider]

Ikr, if it is murder then why the Supreme Court made it legal? The conservatives do not know what laws are because they think with their feelings then with logical

[SnakeBoop]

"Gives definition of murder"
maybe you should google the definition!
-20 for the unoriginal repeat posts again troll.

[Apulu_3]

Murder is taking someone's life.

I'm not talking about legal and illegal here because these rules don't really care.

[goaded]

So soldiers are all murderers?

[Apulu_3]

@goaded Technically yes. But they are 'good murderers' and are murdering for the protection of country.

[Gigi2019]

"good" murderers...

[BeMuse]

Ha you think Google is reality. That's funny. Apparently you aren't aware that laws are different in different places at different times.

[BeMuse]

[Cubus]

There is something in law called Radbruch Formula. It says that if law drastically breaks basic natural human rights (and right to life is such a right), and the law is unjust, then such law is not valid.

[Anonymous]

[Agape93]

Because they're idiots and emotional manipulators trying to use buzz words to upset people.

[godfatherfan]

Because they are religious nutbags... end of story.

[Anonymous]

I don't know. I don't uphold such a belief.
But they'd be hypocritical. Them eating meat means animals got butchered, which is also murder. Eating fruits and vegetables too is killing unborn plant life.

[Guy13]

Are you really this Stupid. Stay Anonymous for sure

[NamerOfStars]

Maybe you should stop spamming this damn question over and over.

[RationalMale]

Sounds like you need to go look it up yourself. Going solely by the lawful vs unlawful definition, abortion is illegal and is murder in a variety of places, including various states in the USA.

[coolerbeans]

Because a baby is a person whether it's been born or not. If you are killing a baby that hasn't been born, it's not murder, but it is still killing a person.

[noohair]

Is it wrong to have an opinion? Since we are only human and don't know all the answers to the universe, your are the judge of what is right or wrong? Your sh! t stinks as bas as every other human.

[noless10in]

You can have a thousand opinions doesn't matter there's still a dead baby to deal with. I say again they mother has nothing to do with an abortion because the baby has been aborted murder/mother walks out alive.

[captain_voidwalker]

If someone stabs a pregnant woman they get charged for murder of both the woman and the unborn child. You don't get to consider something alive only when it suits you convenience

[Gigi2019]

Precisely. The abortion bunch never mention when they believe a human being is a bona fide "person". They are pushing for live birth abortions... Maybe we can contact their elderly mothers and get the okay to pull the plug on these useless people? That wouldn't be "murder", would it?

[goaded]

The woman gets to choose if the fetus is wanted or not. That law simply assumes that it is (and murdering the woman has also taken away her right to choose).

[captain_voidwalker]

No no the woman gets to choose when she opens her legs. After that its more than just her life on the line

[goaded]

And you choose when she gets to choose, right?

[captain_voidwalker]

Are you saying women aren't capable of choosing. Because that's what I hear with your argument there. If your point is men also made a choice in the situation your absolutely correct. Thats why child support is a thing, in fact child support is the only form of debt if not paid you can still go to prison for... and for longer sentences than murder come to think of it.

[goaded]

"Are you saying women aren't capable of choosing. Because that's what I hear with your argument there." That's because you're an ignorant asshole. As anyone can see.

[captain_voidwalker]

You can sling insults all day. Your still not proving me wrong

[goaded]

Your own words prove that, as anyone can see.

[captain_voidwalker]

Well please deign to enlighten my ignorant self which words are you referring to

[Kingofkings1992]

Maybe because it’s the willful taking of another life? ( This is coming from someone who is pro choice)

[888theGreat]

so should abortions. Bible , the ultimate authority, says it is and that thou shalt not kill. I would make it 60 years in prison for murder and 20 years in prison for abortion murders.

[NorthwestRider]

Man you must hate the west soo much. I bet you would love Iran

[888theGreat]

@NorthwestRider iran is the devil's bible , the Koran

[goaded]

[Cherry234]

@goaded Thanks for showing this Venn diagram. This is informative.

[Massageman]

Because murder = the premeditated taking of a human being.

[NorthwestRider]

The last time I check murder was illegal while abortions are legal

[Massageman]

@NorthwestRider Legal system missed on that one - - - - -

[Twalli]

They believe that it's a human life, which if it was, it would be murder. Life begins at conception, but human life does not.

[Twalli]

@gguy767 Tadpoles are not frogs. They become frogs. Fetuses are not humans they become humans.

[Twalli]

@gguy767 no, but people don't eat tadpole legs, and if it never turns into a frog then it isn't a frog.

[Twalli]

@gguy767 I don't believe that a soul exists very early on. If we were to compare similar stages in life cycles as a fetus, you are saying frog eggs have souls. I don't think they do. Tadpole to a frog work well as an analogy because it's a visible obvious change in appearance

[Creampiekarl420]

Pro choice people get upset by it being called murder (which it is) because they know it’s wrong deep down

[JohnK123]

Because at the point where a baby is technically a human I don't know which week it is but if you kill a baby then, it’s like killing a human

[Anonymous]

Abortion is not murder when the entire world is overpopulated with humans.
You DimWit!

[fireforeffect]

What do you call the premeditated killing of another human being?

[Waldoe]

and abortion should be a crime... why is killing a child excluded from the Law?

[standardguy]

Murder is killing intentionally.
Fullstop. That is the biblical definition.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Because you are taking a human life in development with malice.

[OddBeMe]

Well I’d still call Kyle shithouse a murderer, but that’s legally inaccurate. So I guess…venting?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

They have no other answers other than just saying "because it is"

[Snakeyes7]

Because they think a fetus is a person and that it is wrong to kill it.

[MrTaboo]

Last I checked killing a living human being is murder.

[NorthwestRider]

The last time I check murder was illegal while abortions are legal

[MrTaboo]

That's why it's being changed.

[NorthwestRider]

Says who 😂

[888theGreat]

@NorthwestRider last I checked you are still pretending to be a man

[Anonymous]

In abortion or rather in the voluntary termination of pregnancy, a living being is killed voluntarily, this is a manslaughter.

[Anonymous]

What should I be charged with if I slipped a chemical into the food or drink of a pregnant women, causing her baby to perish but leaving her unharmed?

[JesseJayNeak]

Because it is. And abortion fits the definition of murder

[fireforeffect]

What do you call the premeditated killing of another human being?

[noless10in]

That the definition of murder

[fireforeffect]

@noless10in And that is why Abortion is called Murder!

[noless10in]

Exactly

[Anonymous]

Abortion IS murder and IS a crime.
You're unlawfully killing a human being.

[UCrayCray]

That depends on where you live

[Agape93]

Exactly. In the USA it's legal and thus not murder.

[Subarugirl]

The bible lays out how they performed an abortion ritual. So get off your moral high horse..

[Agape93]

WITH God's assistance no less.

[Subarugirl]

@Agape93 exactly! A lot of Christians like to talk a big game about abortion when their god killed his own son...

[Agape93]

And actively kills fetuses made via infidelity, they tend to ignore it. Then again they don't even read their own holy book, sooo yeah.

[Subarugirl]

@Agape93 oh and don't forget about all the actual children god commanded Moses to kill

[Agape93]

Who could? Or arguably worse, keeping the female children alive for their "uses"

[Subarugirl]

@Agape93 yeah.. the "virgins" as spoils of war

[Agape93]

Yeap. Reminds me of exodus 21, where mosaic law makes slavery and emotional blackmail ok

[Subarugirl]

@Agape93 ooh you think exodus was bad... try reading numbers.. Samuel.. Hosea
Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?

[Agape93]

Ah the Bible, source of goodness from a benevolent and loving deity. I find more comfort in chocolax

[Opinion Owner]

Unlawful in the eyes of God. And all laws made by Mankind must be in alignment with, and compatible with GODs laws.

[Agape93]

Fuck your god

[Subarugirl]

maybe you should read up on the laws of your so called god... Numbers 5:11-21

[Agape93]

Assuming he can read

[Opinion Owner]

@Agape93 I pray that you repent and ask for His forgiveness for your blasphemous comment

[Agape93]

Your god can kiss my ass, after he pays for the privilege. I don't need to ask forgiveness for something less consequential than a tax collector.

[Subarugirl]

Grow up, open your eyes and reread your Bible…you’re way too old to be acting so childish

[Opinion Owner]

@Agape93 In this case, a person prays for another person when they can see they're headed for Hell, and they want that person's eternal destination to be Heaven instead.
It's literally a "labor of love" for them. And also part of our mission as Christians.

[Agape93]

Lol I'm not going to hell any more than you'll be going to Xibalba. I'm good to go

[Anonymous]

It’s a human life and the life is ended intentionally with force. Therefore, murder.

[NorthwestRider]

The last time I check murder was illegal while abortions are legal

[Opinion Owner]

@NorthwestRider So was slavery okay when it was legal?

[Anonymous]

Because they don't believe in the rights of women.

[JohnK123]

What about the rights of man? If a couple gets pregnant, and they originally want it, then how come is it common for some women to turn and get an abortion without considering their man’s opinions

[Dchrls78104]

Because it's the truth...🙄

[gabby100]

You are taking a life. Whether its born or not..

[NorthwestRider]

The last time I check murder was illegal while abortions are legal

[gabby100]

@NorthwestRider Just because its legal does not make it right.

[NorthwestRider]

Laws do not care about your feelings. The law of the land is much more important than your feelings

[Agagagagaga]

@NorthwestRider laws change. I find it strange how much of a hard on you have over the sanctioned killing of dead babies. “BuT iT’s LeGaL!!!” I’d advise you to stop and listen to yourself but that’d tear you away from your activism.

[gabby100]

@Agagagagaga you asked me a question, i gave you an answer. That is my feeling. If you enter into sex and the woman gets pregnant and there is nothing wrong with baby, it is wrong to get rid of it just because it, an inconvenient.