Do you think abortion is murder, why or why not?

[Anonymous]

Abortion is murder

Abortion isn't murder

[aanastasia233]

No because murder is a crime. Abortion is legal in a lot of countries

[skyeee_]

if abortion would be murder it would be illegal today.

[UCrayCray]

Hey asker. I have been blocked by the one who think he’s a rational male because he’s butthurt that I use words as described by the dictionary. LMAO 😂🤣😂🤣 Im not sure how he’s using the word “rational” in his name, but given the things he has said on this thread, I’m going to have to assume he’s not using that word correctly either. So funny…. sad…but funny.

[Asker]

😂😂😂

[Anonymous]

There is no question that abortion is killing a human life. But "murder" is a legal term, and by definition, the killing of a human in utero is only considered murder if someone else does it against the will of the mother. In other words, mothers are legally allowed to "murder" their unborn children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act#:~:text=The%20Unborn%20Victims%20of%20Violence,listed%20federal%20crimes%20of%20violence.

[WalkingInTheRain7]

When the sperm meets the egg, and is fertilized, and the spark of life happens, then a child is made. Plain and simple. Abortion is the flat out murder of unborn children. Anyone who says otherwise, sadly, is not seeing clearly for what it is.

[BillyBalls]

Exactly!!!

By definition abortion kills human life!!!

[WalkingInTheRain7]

It does, there's even abortion pills now where you don't even have to rip the baby out and murder it in cold blood, they just take a pill and it kills it. All in the name of lust and sexual deviance to try and alleviate the consequences of their actions. Having a baby stops with opening up ones legs or taking ones pants off, no one forced them to have a kid, they chose to have a kid of their own freewill.

I propose the same question to all people who support abortion, if they were recently made, and they were in their mothers womb, regardless of how old they are, would you be okay if your mom or dad wanted to kill them in cold blood and not give them a chance to live? Would they agree with it? I'd be remiss if I said I didn't think there were people out there who would say yes to that.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

It's a medical procedure to modify cells attached to a woman's body.

Look, I dont personally agree with abortion but im not going to prevent someone else from getting it. That's their choice.

[RationalMale]

On the bright side if someone wants to kill their own offspring, they are probably doing the world a favor.

Saying it's a procedure to modify cells is delusional, though.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

We are all made of cells and these are dependant on the woman's body to grow. Its accurate.

[RationalMale]

If you're a sociopath or a nihilist, yes. Same as if I killed someone and said I was modifying the state of a large quantity of cells.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Are they reliant on your body's continued survival before you "rearranged them"?

[BillyBalls]

The fuck are you babbling about?

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Just speaking the trust from my end.. no idea what he is going on about.

[exitseven]

I think there is a point where the fetus becomes a person. I do not know when that is but I know that the Pope should not make the decision and neither should Joe Biden.

[RationalMale]

I would say abortion is murder--killing another human being without good cause.

Now, would I ban abortion? I'd ban or heavily restrict abortion for White people. However we should not impose our restrictions on black people. That's acting like slavery, they should get to do abortions if they choose. ;)

[UCrayCray]

Except that the definition of murder includes the word “unlawful.” So if it’s legal where you live, it doesn’t meet the definition of murder.

[RationalMale]

@UCrayCray Interesting. Do you base your morality on what corrupt politicians manage to agree on and put into legal code?

[UCrayCray]

Murder is a legal term with a specific definition. Abortion doesn’t meet the criteria for that definition in places where abortion is legal.
You can get all emotional about it if you want, but it doesn’t change what the law defines murder as.
You want to talk about the killing of a life, you would not be wrong in wording it as such.

[RationalMale]

@UCrayCray Murder is an action that inherently is defined by morality, not legality. A legal jurisdiction will define what meets the criteria for murder in their jurisdiction, but it no more changes what murder is than if a legal jurisdiction tried to redefine air or water. A murder is a murder regardless of how many jurisdictions decree it legal or illegal.

[UCrayCray]

Words have meanings. Just because you don’t agree with those meanings doesn’t mean you get to change them…. unless you lobby them to add “and abortion” to the end. You get them to do that, and I will agree with you that abortion is murder. 🤷‍♀️

[RationalMale]

@UCrayCray you need to go get an education kiddo. Come back when you're at least old enough to drive a car.

[UCrayCray]

Which school will teach me that words don’t actually have meaning? That they can mean anything your heart desires them to mean? Or that you that they change depending on what’s convenient for you?
Which school did you learn that stuff? I assume that’s the education you believe I’m lacking?
And where do you live where people in their 20’s can’t drive?

[Asker]

"You need to go get an education kiddo. Come back when you're at least old enough to drive a car"- Ad hominem attacks cannot be considered as arguments, so if you have a valid point to counter @UCrayCray , please share.

[UCrayCray]

That’s how they admit they are wrong…. without admitting they are wrong. 🤣😂🤣😂

[Asker]

Yeah 😅😅

[RationalMale]

"UCrayCray" is attempting to debate if abortion is *legally* murder vs the question you posted of if people think it's murder. By definition then, that changes based on country, which State in the USA even, and how far along the pregnancy is, which she herself hasn't bothered to mention. She attempted to move the goalposts away from the question then failed to follow the logic she tried to push.

[Asker]

Hi @RationalMale , why have you blocked @UCrayCray? Please unblock her.

[RationalMale]

Because there's no point debating someone over a legality question (if abortion is in fact legal in your area) on a thread where the original poster asked a morality question (if the readers think abortion is murder and why or why not.)

[Anonymous]

It’s not alive until birth. How can you kill someone’s that is not alive. It don’t make sense at all.

[jahaims]

Do you not know anything about biology? A baby is definitely alive prior to birth.

[RationalMale]

If an unborn baby isn't alive, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't count as alive either!

[Chthou95]

You're not going to like opinions that they say it's murder. That's not even my argument anymore. You want to get rid of the baby, fine. But men shouldn't have to pay Child support if she keeps it. I believe that 100%

[InYourHead]

I mean you are intentionally killing an innocent human so... seems to meet the criteria to me.

[jahaims]

Here is the definition of murder: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

[SmokinAces2000]

No in most cases but if someone wanted to get an abortion at 9 months pregnant for example then that wouldn’t be okay

[DWornock]

It is not murder but it is killing a parasite and potential human baby.

[BillyBalls]

So you admit you are a parasite?

[DWornock]

@BillyBalls I was before I was born and even now I may be a parasite on society.

[BillyBalls]

So please do abort!!!

[DWornock]

@BillyBalls Regardless of how much they are despised, parasites want to live too.

[BillyBalls]

Abort all those in hospitals and nursing homes!!!

[Snakeyes7]

I think abortion is wrong but I see the value of keeping the government out of the way in this case.

[TallAnon]

Depends when, but in most country's legal terms, no.

[Anonymous]

Of course, it is not. Only a moron would think it is.

[jimmy2]

Yes i do tell me what the child dis to deserve a death sentence

[BarryLiverstone]

It’s not murder, it’s a legal option

[Anonymous]

Abortion isn't murder

[794400]

Incest, rape, yup cancel it. Otherwise get bent.

[794400]

Oh but I'm an alcy, or I lovez me cigarettes so much it's my fault, so cancel that shit. Libtards know no bounds. But god damn it, you better getz your coof shotz because you can't get my family sick. Wow.

[Iron_Man]

Yes it is