Hey pro choicers? Why when you kill a pregnant woman you get charged with two murders but when you abort you don’t get charged with anything?

[Pterodon]

[ohshee]

Hey pro human you will know the answer to your own question. The day you become a women and you you get raped and then you find out your pregnant with your repeat baby
so let's see
You just been brutally raped
You find out now that you're pregnant
And now you have to make a decision that you would never ever think in your life you would have to make because no matter what it is you have to live with it

And you want to ask stupid fucking questions put yourself in their shoes put your mother in those shoes put your sister in those shoes and you tell me you still think the way you think put your wives in those shoes put your daughter in those shoes now what do you think

[ohshee]

And by the way for myself and myself only I am 100% pro-life

But if a woman is being bullied because of something that she did not ask for it happens to her and she's being told what she can and cannot do with her body I will step in front of her and I will fight for her it's her business in her business only now if you want to take responsibility for it and you want to adopt that baby that's just as much your choice as what she's going to do that's between her and her God nobody else just like you stepping up and adopting that baby is your choice and nobody else's

[CloudMassacre]

Because the first is someone who is already a person and wants the thing growing in their body, and the other is someone stopping the development of the thing growing in their body

[Pterodon]

Makes no sense. It’s murder or it isn’t

[anylolone]

That's a very dangerous way to define personhood.
It's literally the same logic that allowed slavery.

[CloudMassacre]

@anylolone I feel that a woman being pregnant and wanting a kid and being murdered is different than going and purchasing/enslaving someone who already exists

[UCrayCray]

Murder charges, from what I have read, only apply to viable fetuses. It’s not really comparable to abortions in that way because the majority of abortions take place long before viability. I’m not really sure what has you confused here, though. Just because a women has the freedom to make a choice for herself, doesn’t mean other people can just come along and make that choice for her.
I have seen this comparison multiple times, and it’s ridiculous. Just because I can have an abortion doesn’t make the next woman’s fetus worthless.
C’mon people.

[Pterodon]

Yes it does. It either is or it isn’t

[UCrayCray]

Why? Because you say so?

[anylolone]

"Just because I can have an abortion doesn’t make the next woman’s fetus worthless." no, it just makes the other woman's fetus not a person. And any fetus you might have in you, by the way.

Which is the center of it all, it boils down to you wanting to eat your cake and still have it for later.

[Chiarac2003]

Don’t forget…. They against the “death penalty”…. Please liberals =hypocrite

[bayoubob]

Libs are the most hypocritical and ironic bastards that ever existed in this day and age.

[Chiarac2003]

@bayoubob funny thing… Canada… same….. Italy ….. same. Germany… same. Germany jus has their new prime minister and he’s liberal n can’t do anything other than try policies that seem more conservative. Lol.

[bayoubob]

@Chiarac2003 Australia, New Zealand. Yup. And they wants them single payer health care. They wants them some college loans forgiveness. They want them some 1 world government. We say fuck you. Let's give them a 1 one way ticket to Communism. They can eat shit.

[Chiarac2003]

@bayoubob exactly…. Biden got his start with support of the Dixie Democrats.. Thurman.. etc. around 1971-72.. I could b 73… but he sponsored a bill that would segregate the busing to the schools in his district. He didn’t think it was fair to have “them” take advantage of the education system and “they” should be schooled where they live.. there is much more to it if course but Biden is in print praising these old racist democrats. Look it up. …..” Biden on busing….

[Agape93]

Depends on how far along she is, usually in the first and second trimesters when abortions are performed, it is not murder because it is not viable outside the womb. In the third trimester, where abortion is only performed to save the woman's life, it is viable outside the womb and thus can be seen as murder.

I know you'll feel the need to argue, don't.

[Brokenheartedx]

How many viable sperms have you murdered through your years of masturbation? Trillions of sperm seeking an egg, splattered onto the bedroom floor

[Cubus]

You know that sperm won't develop into anything without an egg?

[Brokenheartedx]

Without an egg sperm is of no use, but egg belongs to woman, woman doesn't want to carry foetus she doesn't have to. Men don't carry eggs or carry babies until that day men shouldn't have an opinion

[Cubus]

If you don't want to carry a baby, then why do you let sperm in?

[Brokenheartedx]

Because the men don't carry condoms to prevent unwanted pregnancy's, dont want the kids but dictate on what women should do with their bodies, bit taliban thinking huh

[Cubus]

I am pretty sure you can decline sex in such situation. And otherwise it would be a rape.

[Agagagagaga]

@Cubus I don’t think they are interested in facts or personal responsibility.

[Pterodon]

Why don’t you use or carry contraceptives?

[Pterodon]

Sperm also belongs to a man just like your egg to a woman

[anylolone]

Why do you need creampies so much?

[Brokenheartedx]

We ain't the ones telling you what to do with your body. Is it because the woman doesn't want you child and would rather abort than give birth to yours? That's the real reason men can't accept the fact that some women don't want their fucking offspring so dictate instead. If men don't want women having abortions to spare their feelings maybe they should be snipped or castrated and problem solved

[bayoubob]

@brokenheartedx You didn't answer the question. If I kill you while you are pregnant, I get charged for double homicide. If you kill me at any give time? Should you get charged with trillions of deaths?

[bayoubob]

@brokenheartedx Let's change these laws accordingly. You now become worse than Gacy, his body count is at least 33. He got the death penalty. You argument is shaky.

[anylolone]

Or, or men do what they have been doing more and more today, to which you complain incessantly, which is not fuck you.

Why not vote for financial abortions as well? Actually, no need to vote, just don't enforce child support laws.

But hey, let's no go into red herrings.
Reality is, if it's a person, and jurisprudence would tell us that up to a certain point it's, then it's murder.

[anylolone]

That's an inconsistency in the jurisprudence that must be resolved one way or another.

[Dargil]

In some states, that is about to change.

[Anonymous]

Abortion is a loophole in the murder laws.

[Andres77]

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