Why did western politicians decide on mass immigration even though the common man hated it? Why did they sell the white man out like that?

[Sparks32]

There isn't enough land to go around and production of food has become harder so both have become unaffordably expensive. the 100s of billions of Dollars we have been flushing into the third world's shitholes wasn't enough so our elite has decided that the average white mans prosperity and interests should be sacrificed for unvetted and ungrateful mass immigration and then presto we are all multicultural nations celebrating becoming a minority in our own countries. I just don't get it.

[NamerOfStars]

That's begause none of than is true. The US has a VERY low population density, food is produced by FARMERS, not empty land, and with nearly every household growing a useless weird that neither we nor our animals eat, we're in no place to complain. Production of food has become EASIER, not harder; calories per acre is up over 20% since the start of the 21st century. Inflation isn't rising because of immigration, but because of idiotic economic policies (and keeping the same fossils in government for four damn decades).

Let the racist clap go and THINK.

[Sparks32]

here In Australia we haven't got a lot of forests left and living off the land is almost impossible now. I hear America has a lot of of crime committed by coloured people, I don't see how importing that kind of trouble helps America, Is it only white countries that import ungrateful Immigrants that commit crimes and accuse everyone else of racism? If you were white you wouldn't want that shit come into the country. Why should we make your problems our problems?

[Lord_Saddler]

Capitalism.

Immigrants mean cheap labor and good voting fodder, thus mass migration maximizes profit.

[exitseven]

In the 60s LBJ started "The Great Society". It was a revamped welfare system. It encouraged single parenthood. It rewarded women to have children out of wedlock. 50 years later a lot of these people realize the policies that democrats put in place only served to make them dependent on government. A lot of minorities have left the democrats in favor of opportunities instead of handouts. They have already lost the Hispanic vote and President Trump got the largest percentage of the black vote in history, The democrats have to replace these voters and will import millions of indigent, uneducated people and figure out a way so they cn vote.

[Soteris]

The whole idea of not having enough space or resources is the dumbest excuse for not accepting immigration I have ever heard. Even the most crowded countries has plenty capacity to accept much more and countries like USA is basically fucking empty and in desperate need of people to actually populate most of the states.

But that is besides the point really, why are countries so happy to accept immigration? Because its basically the equivalent of getting free money. For a country there basically is no better way to grow than to receive immigration and that is before we account for the slowing down of population growth in many countries which is going to cause disastrous economic and social problems if they dont receive a steady supply of immigrants to make up the difference.

So yeah. The day countries decide to stop allowing immigration is the day they decide that they hate their own economy and prosperity and wants to see their own nation burn to the ground.

[Agagagagaga]

If immigration is so goddamn wonderful why do other countries have such strict immigration guidelines?

[Sparks32]

@Soteris In Australia you could buy a house for $40 000 30 years ago. The cheapest house I've heard of lately $400 000, Most of our immigrants hate white people. We need Immigration like earth worms need wings White People are discriminated against here. We built this country and fought and died for it and the greedy politicians thought it was theirs to gave away. If only our dead soldiers only new that they were dying for nothing.

[Sparks32]

@Soteris we can't take on more without the environment paying for it or without sacrificing our care free life style so why the fuck should we?

[Soteris]

@Agagagagaga Because they are stupid. Next question please.

[Soteris]

@Sparks32 Australia has a population density of like 3 per square kilometer. Germany has a density of 233 per square kilometer. Your country is mostly a deserted wasteland that could definitely use a human touch especially to improve the environment around us which is especially true in Australia as the continent could really use some water infrastructure and artificial bodies of water to spruce up the place but which would take a large number of people to justify construct and maintain.

Also honestly. What have you fought and died for to maintain Australia? I swear the only threat you ever have had against your country is the Japanese during WW2 and they were not even that interested.

[Sparks32]

They were interested, We had drawn out borders with the top half of Australia being surrendered to the Japanese I talked to a few WW2 vets 1 being my Grandfather. And one guy told Me that out of the group of 50 men he went into basic training with only 4 ever came back Alive. My grand Father did 55 bombing raids as a tail gunner and Statistically he should have been dead by the 17th run.

[Soteris]

They were not. Australia is, and was a backwater area for them. They only even bothered with its existence because it threatened their dominance in the pacific sea. Also only like 27000 australians died during the entire WW2 so your grandfather must have been part of a particularly terrible batch of recruits.

[Sparks32]

My grand father did a notoriously dangerous job in ww2 but lived and those other guys fought and died for their country they most likely fought bravely knowing that they would most likely die. They deserve more respect then what you just gave them. Are you one of those ungrateful immigrates I was talking about before?

[Soteris]

So what about your grandfather? You said basic training, which means the people who died were average soldiers and considering the high mortality of his batch of trainees they accounted for a much higher proportion of losses than any others. Again, units rarely lose a high percentage of soldiers and Australia in particular did not lose that many so having only 4 return is not something that can simply be accounted for by bad luck.

[Sparks32]

My grand father was a tail gunner in WW2. Statistically you should be dead before you reach your 17th bombing run but he did 55 official bombing runs and god know how many unofficial runs but he came home. An other guy told me a his 70th birthday party that all his friends died Maybe they rolled the dice one to many times in the name of duty. Maybe they were out number 20 to 1 and decided to go out in a blaze of glory. I can't add an more details because I wasn't there I don't believe they were useless but you were not there. But It's irrelevant, Are you really going to insult fallen war hero's like that?

[Soteris]

Again, Basic Training. It is not a course specialized to tail gunners so you can't use that argument to explain away how 46 out of 50 died in a conflict where the casualty rate in Australia was only around 3%. Furthermore 55% of all air losses was in Germany and Australia only had a few hundred bombers with tail gunners.

Point is, your grandpa was part of a seriously inept or suicidal batch of trainees. This can't be argued with and very little of that had anything to do with the Japanese.

[Sparks32]

@Soteris You are confusing two different men my grand father the tail gunner and my friend who was on the ground. I'm just telling you what they told me and your telling me what Wikipedia told you. maybe they were a braver bunch.

[Soteris]

Brave men dont get killed more often to that degree. It goes against random chance and even how the military would use its soldiers. Only the personal actions resulting in the death of themselves could account for why that many people of a randomly selected group died. They alone are at fault.

[Sparks32]

Oh really? Ever heard of the Gallipoli campaign or D Day? They have used soldiers like that may times, Are you calling that Vet a liar? What is your point anyway?

[Soteris]

None of those even got close to approaching that number of attrition. Even Omaha beach which is fucking notorious for being a blood bath had around 75% casualty in the first wave. 4 alive out of 50 is INSANE and to sum up what I have said so far, you are a really bad liar. None of that happened so stop embarrassing yourself by making up war stories.

[Sparks32]

@Soteris You aren't attacking me, your attacking a WW2 vet so you need to shut that mouth up retard. Where do you get you evidance from anyway? unrelyablesorces. com? Did is sink in? or do in need to tell you another 50 times really slowly. You might want to make you point in under a couple of posts next time because your boring the crap out of everyone.

[Soteris]

Again, you are a bad liar because what you are saying does not make logical sense. Even during the worst military defeats you dont generally lose that many people so having a randomly collected group of people die at such an unrealistic rate is so outlandish that I can confidently laugh in your face and call you out for your pathetic lies.

[BeMuse]

They need MS-13 for reinforcements in the invent they are successful at starting a civil war. They know they are extremely outnumbered.

[BeMuse]

You have a choice.
The choice has always been yours.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
THEY WANT YOU DIVIDED.
THEY WANT RACE WARS.
THEY WANT CLASS WARS.
THEY WANT RELIGIOUS WARS.
THEY WANT POLITICAL WARS.
THEY USE THE MEDIA.
THEY USE HOLLYWOOD.
THEY USE POLITICAL LEADERS.
THEY ARE LOUD.
GROUP THINK.
PUBLIC SHAME AGAINST THOSE WHO CHALLENGE.
SLAVERY.
THEY KNOW WHAT IS COMING.
IT IS NOW MORE CLEAR THAN EVER.
NEVER IN OUR HISTORY HAVE THEY BEEN THIS EXPOSED.
NEVER IN OUR HISTORY HAVE THEY COME OUT FROM THE SHADOWS TO FIGHT.
THE TRUTH IS CLEARLY VISIBLE.
DEFEND MS-13?
DEFEND THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR BORDERS?

[BeMuse]

PROMOTE THE FEAR NUCLEAR WAR IF POTUS REMAINS IN OFFICE?
NUCLEAR ALERTS MALFUNCTION?
COMPARE TO HITLER/NAZIS?
PROMOTE VIOLENCE?
PROMOTE HATE?
PROMOTE WAR?
PROMOTE ECONOMIC DECLINE?
PROMOTE NK TO END TALKS W/ POTUS?
PROMOTE IMPEACHMENT FOR NO REASON?
PROMOTE RACISM?
PROMOTE FACISM?
PROMOTE RIOTS?
FORM ANTIFA - VIOLENT GROUP DESIGNED TO INSTILL FEAR IN FREE SPEECH.
HATRED FOR AMERICA.
SHEEP FOLLOW BLINDLY.
THEY ARE SCARED.
THEY ARE LOSING CONTROL.
WE KNEW THIS DAY WOULD COME.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ
WE PLANNED.
WE TOOK CONTROL OVER KEY ELEMENTS.
WE STAND AT THE READY.
WE FIGHT.

[BeMuse]

DARK TO LIGHT.
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
GOD BLESS PATRIOTS AROUND THE WORLD.
THINK FOR YOURSELF.
TRUST YOURSELF.
COURAGE.
TOGETHER.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
"Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong."
Q

[BeMuse]

*event

[Sparks32]

@BeMuse I wish Australia had a Trump. We are about to have our federal elections and I wouldn't be surprised if 99% of our Senators where ANTIFA members.

[driven159]

we need to stop over population first and take care of our own and in countries that are in famine, and they have a bunch of babies stop making it worse

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

To exploit desperate and hunger immigrants who labor like crazy and get paid red pennies for a salary.

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, you are fucking posting from Australia.

[Sparks32]

Yes I'm posting from Australia so?

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude pack your bags and go back to your country of origin.

[Sparks32]

Oh ! I know how this goes, You about to tell me because I'm white I don't belong in Australia Right?
Just like the White Americans We didn't move into their tribal camps, We respected their space and built our own towns and they decided that they wanted to move in with us. Nobody has ever respected our white spaces. Every body wants what we built. They don't want to live in their reservations because they can not provide the same living standards as we can provide. Every time we try to build our white reservation everyone cries foul. We are the best thing that ever happened the the Natives.

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, your question is about mass immigration. You immigrated to Australia. It says nothing about respecting traditions and customs. It simply says Western politicians are opening their borders. So take your butt back to whatever country you called home.

I don't understand insane crazy racism. If you were obsessed with fairness, you would want every supposed "race" to go back to their country of origin.

Give the Americas back to the Indigenous. Give Australia back to the Aborigines. Africans all have go to back to Africa. Asian for Asians, etc.

WTF?

[Sparks32]

It's about being sold out by our own politicians, They look after everyone except their own white people , Natives are allow to live on reservations but whites aren't allow a space of their own. Europe is being invaded by Arabs and Africans and they are gang raping our women and killing us. How about you build your own spaces and we build ours do you understand that shit. Everyone want to move in with us and that's a problem Africans will never understand. Imagine if black people created wealth and prosperity for them selves then white moved in and held your people back, beat up your children and burnt everything you built because we think you treat us unfairly. Stop following the white man around I don't want to put up with the problems coloured people bring. If you don't like people like me let us create a space just for us. Your afraid of the white man going his own way and I understand why. just admit it. Many African want me dead and I only want to live apart from them because I'm not the savage villain here,

[Anonymous]

Cheap labor

[MrSmithee]

self interest