Do men avoid women who make more than them in a relationship?

[Anonymous]

My sisters a lawyer and her boyfriend is a forensic scientist, both good jobs but my sister makes more than him. She often gets people telling her her boyfriend is a simp for dating someone who makes more than him but I don’t see the issue? It’s not even a massive difference in salary where I live. Do men really avoid women who make more than them/shame those that do date women who make more? I think it’s stupid. Why does it matter so much? Why’s he considered a simp just because of that, it sounds dumb.

[Chris_7565]

I used to feel proud that I had a pretty girlfriend while I wasn't making a lot of money.
To me it meant that she saw other value in me. Of course she was a workaholic and usually had more money than me but I didn't care. I paid my half of everything and I had the only thing that was really valuable to me, which was her.
I was fine with her making more money.
The only time it changed was when we decided to have a baby. She stayed home for 2 years and I worked multiple jobs to pay for everything.

[VanillaSalt]

There’s significantly higher divorce statistics in marriages where the woman out earns the man by I wanna say 20% his his income. Aside from this unless she blabs about it he’ll probably get to know her before money becomes a big issue. Remember though if they have a kid it’s HER income that suffers and so their left to survive on less then half the house income… that’s why men make the money.

[HelloSofi97]

They don't avoid them... most don't even care about that. It only becomes a problem when she's tooooo consumed with her job that it comes between the two. Otherwise, they'll be fully supportive of whatever you're passionate about. Then there's other men that prefer housewives.

[Asker]

That’s a fair point, I just found it weird that some random online dudes had smt to say about it

[bones_20]

You’d have to be stupid to avoid someone for that. Sounds like they are both in jobs that they enjoy doing, shouldn’t matter who makes more.

[Asker]

Exactly, I agree. It’s just dumb that people shame him I don’t get it

[bones_20]

Some people are simply strange.

[exitseven]

It would not matter to me. When I had a job it was in a professional capacity and it did not pay as much as what my wife made. It did not bother me. My wife stayed home with our kids for 11 years while I supported everyone with one income. Then for many years I made more than she did. I started another career knowing it would not pay as much as what I was making.. I felt it was time for a change.

[Anonymous]

No. Women avoid men who make less. I don't know why so many women think we care about how successful a woman is. Even IF I ended up with a woman who makes more than me, I wouldn't see any of that money. It would be her money, not ours, I'm still going to have to work and financially support myself. Men don't care about much you make, we aren't like women.

[Asker]

Okay then why do other men shame my sisters boyfriend? If y’all don’t care, why make that man feel inferior when they’re just in a happy healthy relationship?

[Opinion Owner]

No proof but I honestly feel like a few guys shamed him and now you're exaggerating. Most men really don't care about these things, unless they're friends and they are just trying to bust his balls about something.

When guys have their "locker room talk" "how much does make?" Never comes up because we simply do not give a shit.

[Opinion Owner]

*how much does she make

[Asker]

Um why would I bother asking this question if it wasn’t true? Jeez. Why would I need to show proof? I’m literally just asking a question I’m not testifying in court. Regardless of “exaggerating”, a few guys shaming him is still something it’s not like no one did, like my question is why would they do that in the first place? They weren’t even guys that knew him well enough to joke, one was some coworker he just met, and the others were multiple rude accounts online because they like to vlog sometimes on the internet and they talk about their lives on a daily basis so people would know their occupations. I don't know why you’re so mad, I’m just genuinely confused on the situation, just answer the question, if you can’t then don’t.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not mad. I did answer your question. We don't care. That's my answer. The men you're talking about are a minority of men. I didn't say you were under any obligation to provide proof, I just said I don't believe you, when you say that a crazy amount of people are shaming your sister's boyfriend. I said I don't have proof of that, but that is just how I feel about your question. That's all. Have a good night lol

[Asker]

If it’s the minority then shouldn’t it only be 1 person at most saying that to him instead of multiple? Plus it’s great most of y’all don’t care, but why as a man do you think some of them do? I just don’t understand it and I just want to know 😭.

[Opinion Owner]

Minority doesn't mean one individual, it means a very small percentage.

But as a man, I think any guy who uses the word "simp" usually isn't worth taking serious. It doesn't even make sense in this scenario... unless he's still financially supporting your sister, despite your sister making more than he does? That's really the reason I can think of. Some people are just going to be stupid.

[Asker]

I guess so, thanks for the response. I think simp is used randomly nowadays just to any guy someone disagrees with, it’s stupid.

[Levin]

Simping is a great word if you use it to call out bad behaviour from men, such as on this website.

If you're a retard and you use it for any man who does something nice for women, shows appreciation, or whatever, then you're dealing with a retard. The existence of retards doesn't preclude the importance of a concept.

[Levin]

Incidentally, what the OP is referring to is retards, exhibiting such behaviour (and misusing such words).

You can't generalise on the basis of retards...

[Opinion Owner]

@Levin Yes that's why I said "usually isn't worth taking serious" a lot of the time, on this site in particular, the word "simp" is often misused. I have been called a simp and have been accused of being a fake blue account by several different people, just for saying that you shouldn't rape women. Not a generalization, it's an observation. Feel free to disagree, I care very little about debating this with you.

@ asker You're very welcome.

[Levin]

Wait, or is it the woman who avoids the man? On dating profiles, lots of women are usually looking 'ambitious' men. Which usually means a decent job.

[Levin]

Also, think of this logically. Just because a woman has a decent job doesn't mean she's self aware. Logically, a woman who has dedicated a lot of time to her career obviously will often see a lot of value in that kind of endeavour. Therefore, she is likely looking for similar in her partner. Of course, what may better suit the relationship is someone that is more grounded and less career orientated, as couples arguably should balance each other out in a relationship. But few have that level of self awareness.

[Asker]

Well I wouldn’t know I’ve never been that type of woman, and clearly my sister isn’t. I grew up with women who just don’t care. My mom makes more than my dad too, I never saw it as weird til some dudes pointed it out and made fun of them for it.

[Levin]

Well stupid people abound. Keep better company is always the advice.

[slatyb]

There people saying that are just jealous that both of them make more than they do. No one who uses the terms "alpha" or "simp" is worth listening to.

[Asker]

That’s fair, a lot of the people who said that did use both those terms.

[Jamie05rhs]

Why are those people even paying attention to the money? That's so nosy and rude. Have they considered the fact that maybe, just maybe, he loves her?

[MzAsh]

Only weak men think that way.

[Slartybartfast]

I would assume they want someone making more money and ignore them yes..

[FilmGuy93]

We don't mind it so much, no. Women tend to respect guys less when we make less than they do though.

[I_am_Dor]

I dont. I really dont understand what's so bad about it.

[007kingifrit]

yes, tons of research shows relationships are doomed if the woman earns more. no point to date her

[Asker]

Thank god most men aren’t dumb like you

[007kingifrit]

80 years of research says i'm the smart one, and you life in delusion

[Asker]

And 30 years of living and you still never touched a woman so I wouldn’t be talking if I were you. “Research” but doesn’t link any reputable or reliable sources… smart where? What’d you do? Google it on Reddit? Also that wasn’t the question, I asked personally if YOU avoid women who make more, not in general if it would work out. If you can’t read and comprehend a question, then trust me, you’re the one who’s delusional. Have a nice day, or don’t.

[007kingifrit]

what an irrational response, to try and turn the conversation about me

further irrational response to imply i didn't answer the question when my personal input is contained in the first word of my answer.

you just don't want it to be true

[Asker]

My parents and my sister/boyfriend are very happy together thank you very much. And I’m still waiting for evidence of this “research” always trying to act smart over an opinion but can’t provide sources to your claims. Typical.

[007kingifrit]

alright here's one of thousands of sources "our findings show both men and women were less satisfied when she earned more" onlinelibrary.wiley.com/.../jomf.12653

you shouldn't ask for sources on things you can google yourself

oh and housewives are happier than women who work https://www.jstor.org/stable/41682634

but i guess i'm just so much smarter than you im the one who has to look things up even though you could just google my EXACT claim... but i understand, asking for sources is a sign of being stupid.

[Asker]

Um asking reputable sources is actually smart and most would say so, because unlike you I don’t listen to blind things you hear from some rando on the internet. There are tons of articles online about lots of ridiculous things but that doesn’t make it true. Plus, you think I didn’t google it? I actually did and various sources say otherwise hence why I wanted to take a look at what you’re reading. You can call me stupid all you want, but I can tell you’re not very bright yourself. Calling me dumb, doesn’t make you any smarter. I hope you know that. And your maturity (or lack thereof) is showing immensely by insulting me instead of proving why you think the way you do which is very shocking considering you’re a grown man. Now like I said, have a nice day, and good luck with your “love life”

[007kingifrit]

asking for sources is only to be done for uncommon knowledge, not all topics. by asking for a source you imply you couldn't find it yourself and didn't already know it. which makes you stupid

it's also not something adults did before the internet age anyway. You could have found those sources very easily by googling the claim. if you couldn't it shows your lack of computer literacy.

you couldn't even respond the sources once i raped you with knowledge

[Asker]

You being unable to form proper sentences makes you the stupid one. You can’t even capitalize your sentences and here you are trying to make yourself to be some wise person😂. I may be stupid, but at least I’m not the one arguing with a kid trying to “prove” I’m smarter than them when I’m not. If you’re so smart, you wouldn’t have the free time to be responding to me. Just shows that not only are you stupid and immature for your age, you have also contributed nothing to society. Do you not have a job? And like I said, in case your English literacy is below average, I have “googled” it and it said the opposite of what you said. Because guess what? Not every research article is going to have the same results. And quite frankly, your source is not only outdated, but it’s not even relevant to our country. But thanks for the laugh, retard. Made my day.

[007kingifrit]

studies show women and men are less happy when the woman earns more. deal with it

[Asker]

Other studies show otherwise and from experience you’re wrong, deal with it.

[007kingifrit]

80 years of consistent research says i'm right and life experience of everyone honest says otherwise

[Asker]

And there’s years of consistent research that men like you will be single forever. I’m done fighting with a retard with the brain and mentality of a 2 year old. Get a life byeeee

[TallAnon]

Nah, who cares

[anylolone]

Nope.

[Anonymous]

I don't