Is it OK to disagree with how putin is hated?

[Signuptodp]

I don't agree with war but I think that every president gets a lot of hate when they do so much for the country and then the haters use what he did. So if u hate him don't use it? Don't use oil etc.. Go live the life u had before. I think I can understand why he acts like that. i don't agree with ear but at the same I wouldn't hate him and call him evil bcs we don't know him

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[Sirenboobzilla]

He invaded a country without warning. Lied to his own military, condemning them to a fight they didn't want as many of the Russian people see Ukraine as brotherly.

He wants to secure resources for Russia while maintaining a monopoly on oil and gas sales with the EU, and wants to keep NATO off his doorstep while having grandeur dreams of reestablishing the USSR. On top of heavily monetizing and censoring what 'news' and information flows through to the Russian people. Yeah he's not the picture of a good man

[Signuptodp]

But before that he was hated by people when he did so much for the world. So they are the reason

[Sirenboobzilla]

Literally all he did was take full control of Russian oil and gas production and made it such a HUGE portion of the Russian gdp. So huge that if it fails, and believe me it will as the EU has been moving to rely all on green energy, there goes the $$$.

[Signuptodp]

But how do u know?

[Signuptodp]

U cannot trust the media.

[Sirenboobzilla]

I don't need to rely on the media for that information. History, business analysis, economic data, Putin's own words, the list goes on.

What are your watching?

[Signuptodp]

U cannot trust either

[Sirenboobzilla]

So what then am I to trust? The word of God? The goodness of people's hearts?

[Signuptodp]

Don't trust anybody. Know u know nothing

[Sirenboobzilla]

Mhm.

[Christian65]

So he's basically George Bush Light.

[Lord_Saddler]

What you Westerners need is a bunch of Chinese or Russian nukes and military personnel at your borders and an international campaign against you (it's not like you did nothing to deserve it) because the language of strength is the only one you understand.

[Sirenboobzilla]

Settle down there Darth Creeper

[DryGermanGuy]

Putin did absolutely nothing "for the world". Are you drunk? He is part of the traditional Ex-KGB kleptocracy stealing from his own people and holding the world hostage with energy while giving into his delusions of grandeur. The man is pure evil.

[ChrisMaster69]

An easy example.

get a trip to Russia and simply say you don’t agree with the war.

Before you do, try saying the same thing in western countries.

Everything that happens in Russia or Russia does overseas is only allowed with his say so.

this includes the nerve agent attack in Salisbury in England.

Their army is having to rely on crowd funding and they are actively using T-62 tanks which stopped production in 1975… you know things are bad when you are using a tank last built in 1975.
Imagine how the conscripts feel getting in one and driving into combat something older than their parents.

[Whatever2929292]

You can disagree with whatever you want

https://banned.video/watch?id=62a2d0be5e42770ee1e08684

[Aurora1010]

Politicians in general are evil and corrupt, very few of them are actually decent. Putin has done many terrible things.

[IsoUser]

I couldn't agree with you more in that all Politicians are inevitably corrupt even here in America it is Incredibly Obvious. Don't Ever Allow the So iet union to ever back us in a corner

[Signuptodp]

@IsoUser but it's not okay to hate on anybody bcs it doesn't lead anywhere. I'm a buddhist

[Levin]

Politicians are scumbags in general with no moral scruples. Only the scummiest human beings are fit for high office.

But worse are the people who give them attention, fight for them, and vote them in.

[Avicenna]

Putin was a rights-violating dictator even before he invaded Georgia and Ukraine (twice). That's enough reason to hate him.

[Slartybartfast]

Sure we had this Debate the other day.

Is Putin a horrible human being or a sociopathic murder machine?

Debat debate..

[ibodi]

yeah, I can see that our own ideology cover my eyes.

[jshm2]

Putin isn't hated, though. Most of these leaders secretly covet what Putin has.

[Twalli]

Don't use oil and live the life we had before? We used oil before, when it was cheaper, that's how we got places by car. Nobody alive now was alive before cars were used.

[Dargil]

Sure Is it OK to disagree. It's called Freedom of Speech.

[Anonymous]

You should never do what your television tells you to do.

[Signuptodp]

But would u say that saying he's not a bad person is not stupid?

[Opinion Owner]

Double negatives are hard to read.

I don't believe in 'good guys' and 'bad guys' it is far more common that they are 'bad guys' and 'worse guys'.

Russia has invaded another country to secure its resources and we like to think that that is wrong even though basically every territory ever defined by humans has done exactly that at every opportunity throughout history.

Do I think he is a bad person? Is probably an awful cunt but he is also doing his job. Russia is dependent on oil and gas sales for its economy to function, the west has been attacking Russia economically for decades.

Invading the Crimea and Ukraine is kind of necessary from Russia's point of view. I would say that makes them the bad guys.

But the West, primarily driven by the mafia controlling the Unitied States are the 'worse guys' frankly I think that our behaviour is absolutely disgusting.

[Signuptodp]

I think u cannot hate him bcs people had no problems insulting and hating him either. So why would he have a problem killing the world when they didn't care about his feelings either.

[Opinion Owner]

If someone is going to kill you they will do it regardless of how you feel about them.

[Signuptodp]

No what I'm saying is that why would he care about them when they had no problems hating him?

[Opinion Owner]

I am not sure what the misunderstanding is here.

I feel I understood the first time and that my coment is relevent and I can see no additional information in your last reply.

[Signuptodp]

I'm saying how does killing somebody who doesn't care about you makes someone a bad person?

[Opinion Owner]

Killing is inheriently wrong, it doesn't matter who they are or how anyone feels.

The only justification for it is self defence.

[Signuptodp]

No I'm not saying it's okay but it doesn't make him a bad person.

[Signuptodp]

I also wish peace for the world

[Opinion Owner]

Once you move away from the individual and start talking about the actions of nations it becomes more complicated.

The same sort of thinking can apply though.

For example in the UK you are allowed to arm yourself and first strike in defence of yourself, someone else or property.

So as Russia is being threatened / attacked economically etc by the Unitied States, its allies and pawns, one of which being the Ukraine, perhaps there is justification for Russia invading Ukraine.

But 'history is written by the victors', it is somewhat inevitable that 'might is right' when it comes to nations.

That isn't really ok but if no one can do anything about it then the morality is somewhat irrelevant.

[Lord_Saddler]

The way he's humiliating the West makes it really difficult for me not to respect him.

[_no_one_]

I think politicians deserve all the hate they get
they be vaging lives for ego sometimes

[Anonymous]

Putin is no worse than our own leaders. We just have our own propaganda instead of Putin’s being forced down our throats.

[Cubus]

Some politicians like Putin. Especially in Germany, Hungary, Serbia, Italy and France.

[noohair]

My view is I can't find a logical reason why he did what he did. His ego seems to get in the way.

[Jouth]

Don’t let Putin use the toilet at Starbucks.


#We’reClosed

[IsoUser]

Putin is a freaking Monster Period!

[Signuptodp]

Imagine people would hate you on the Internet. Would u have problems killing them? Would that make u a bad person?

[Lord_Saddler]

Like George Bush, Obama and Biden? Or Like Tony Blair and Boris Johnson?

[IsoUser]

Putin was essentially raised in the KGB so he is a Dick Outright: I personally loved when horses ass Donald Trump compared himself to Putin and Putin Outright Laughed at him being President Horses Ass Trump , OMG it was way too funny

[Lord_Saddler]

Wasn't the KGB a CIA-like organization?

[IsoUser]

The difference is that One Single Man, Like Hitler or Stalin didn't control the dictatorship to come

[Lord_Saddler]

Yeah, only a few billionaires can control the US institutions, a single man can't do it indeed.

[IsoUser]

It's apparently blatenly obvious that you can't You Freaking Loser!

[Lord_Saddler]

I still haven't figured out if you're just mentally retarded or illiterate. Or both.

[IsoUser]

To be perfectly honest I think that You Personally ate to much radioactive Lead Paint as a child, causing Swelling of your brain and Severe ADD

[Lord_Saddler]

Confirmed, you're both mentally retarded and illiterate.

[Anonymous]

No, he deserves all the hate he gets.

[In_Trance]

sure