Why do people insist that guns never killed anyone and that it’s the person?

[ChefPapiChulo]

How ignorant do you have to be to not know that they’re are invented to kill? The gun is a killing machine that was created to kill. Guns fulfill their purpose as they were created with the intent to inflict as much pain as possible.

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Some of the nonsense from these gun nuts is just insane.

[anylolone]

Because guns don't kill people, agency comes from humans.

The sheer majority of legal guns are thousand times more likely to save a life from an illegal gun than to be used as a tool to kill the un-assailing. Which is the core reason why you hate them.

[ChefPapiChulo]

aren't you that crazy person that no one responds to?

[anylolone]

You just responded by completely ignoring the easily verifiable facts, like usually.

I love owning you guys, it's so fucking easy.

[ChefPapiChulo]

okay sorry then my bad.

[Anonymous]

@chefpapichulo Wants women to be raped.

He wants women to not be able to defend themselves, get attacked, and raped.

This is the guy trying to tell you about morality. The “man” who wants to take guns away from women so they can get raped.

[Lyndsielee666]

What you shouldn’t do is accuse people of that shit.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Lyndsielee666 he’s part retard.

[joeldalton]

chapipoopoo also wants governent to run roughshod over people's rights.

[lofii]

He thinks being anti gun will help him lose his virginity

[fireforeffect]

Because it is the truth.
it is true that from the very beginning, guns were created to kill people, but they cannot do this by themselves. It tasks a person to operate the gun.
Do you blame the car when a drunk driver runs over and kills someone? Do you blame the spoon for Obesity?

[ChefPapiChulo]

Comparing guns to cars is stupid. Cars weren’t created as killing machines.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

Christmas PARADE 2021 THE TWO THOUSAND POUND BULLIT USED TO KILL AND MAIME

[fireforeffect]

Does that make a difference? Both are inanimate objects with no willpower of their own. You did not object to the Spoon. So is it true that you blame the spoon for obesity?

[ChefPapiChulo]

I’m not going to object to every stupid thing you say. This isn’t a court room.

[fireforeffect]

You are simply afraid. You know that the Argument cannot be disputed, so you deflect with insults.

[ChefPapiChulo]

afraid of someone who compares guns to cars? no one is afraid of you.

[fireforeffect]

You obviously are because you deflect with insults. You are afraid of the truth.

[ChefPapiChulo]

You’re crazy

[fireforeffect]

You are the One who's statement prove you to be so.

[ChefPapiChulo]

okay communist.

[fireforeffect]

Now you are projecting.

[BCRanger10]

Because the person is the one who aims and pulls the trigger. During a murder trial, why then is person on trial and not the gun?

[ChefPapiChulo]

because only someone who is insane would suggest to prosecute a gun and the mention of it is idiotic.

[BCRanger10]

So then the person using the weapon is the one responsible. Correct?

[ChefPapiChulo]

no one is saying they aren't.

[BCRanger10]

Okay. That being established, my next question is whether a gun can do anything apart from the person wielding it. Can it?

[ChefPapiChulo]

you need to either make a point or leave my question with your nonsense. a gun is not just an object. it is a killing machine that was created to kill. and murders will get their hands on these killing machines if they are easy to obtain. there is no denying that and no matter how much nonsense you spew it doesn't change that fact.

[BCRanger10]

I'm trying to make a point. Please answer my question.

[ChefPapiChulo]

what makes you think i have to answer your questions? ii've answered the first one and i'm not going to continue answering stupid questions. leave my question with your nonsense i have better things to do than to respond.

[BCRanger10]

Okay well I'll answer it for you. The answer is "no". That means a person can choose to or not to use a gun to harm or kill someone.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Well, that's actually the positive thing about guns - they are sincere.
A person might lie, but a gun means what it says.

[ChefPapiChulo]

You understand what you just said is gibberish and makes no sense without context right? Or no?

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

I think I've been quite clear instead.
Machines are much more reliable than some people.
A gun is built to kill, and it kills.
Police says they are there to help, and yet they hold guns and kill with them.
A gun, when it shoots, perfectly means what it says.

[ChefPapiChulo]

word salad buddy.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Machine = good.
People = bad.
Simple enough.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

Knives were invented long before guns were invented and they too were invented to kill and have been doing so for eons yet no one call for knife control

[ChefPapiChulo]

Comparing knives to guns is retarded.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

but they were both designrd to kill nothing retarded about that. Someone walks into a school with twenty knives and kills twenty people you tell me what the difference is people are dead. besides that you run out of bullits you got a hunk of metal. With a knife you still have something that will kill. Samething with a bow and arrow you run out of arrows in the forest or street you can find stuff to make an arrow. retarded is how you brain works

[ChefPapiChulo]

knives weren't. dumbest thing i've ever heard. knives were created milions of years ago and it wasn't meant for war.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

then why the hell were they invented to clean toe nails. They were invented to kill dinner and your enemy. Man has been making war for eons before guns were thought of.

[ChefPapiChulo]

i think you're too old for this discussion.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

no just heard all the bullshit before !

[joeldalton]

I just went upstairs and my guns were stored away. None of them killed anyone. I asked twice, even.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Can you say the same about every gun which is easily obtained?

[joeldalton]

yes. Every gun just sits there. They are inanimate objects.

[ChefPapiChulo]

and water is wet. thanks for your brilliant insight LOL.

[joeldalton]

I'm not the moron claiming that inanimate objects are capable of autonomy.

[ChefPapiChulo]

just like when i use my coffee cup to hold coffee its fulfilled its purpose. and just like when a person uses a gun to kill someone its fulfilled its purpose.

gun companies do not care who buys the gun and who dies from the gun as long as they get as many sales as possible.

[joeldalton]

Does your coffee cup fill itself? Does it move up to your gigantic lips by itself? The more retarder analogies you make, the dumber you sound.

[lofii]

#roasted

[ChefPapiChulo]

no one is saying a cup fills itself or a gun kills people by itself, but they are both tools that are created to fit a purpose. but of course, your bad faith arguments are nothing new.

[joeldalton]

This is your dumb argument, not mine. You just can't handle people pointing out the stupidity of it.

[ChefPapiChulo]

tbh i dont even know what your argument is besides "theyre are inanimate objects" as if that had any real meaning.

[joeldalton]

It has every meaning when morons like you say stupid shit like "why do people say guns never killed anyone and that it's the person"

The gun is the tool. The desire to kill (or protect oneself) is in the person. Just like the desire to have coffee fires off inside your smooth brain.

[ChefPapiChulo]

a person with a desire to kill someone needs a tool which can be anything but its most efficient with a gun. just like a carpenter uses a hammer or a power drill makes the job easier.

obviously no one is saying that there isn't a person behind the gun, but when the purpose of a gun is to kill and its easily obtainable i would figure that you'd be able to see a problem.

are you able to understand that guns are easy to get and they're created to kill? i've explained it the best i could to you but i think you have some kind of brain defect.

[joeldalton]

As you say "yeah, and water is wet". So fucking what?

Do you know that guns are used for target practice? Ever heard of a biathalon? Do you realize there are entire competitive leagues of shooting accuracy? So even your other point is easily refuted.

You're really, really fucking dumb.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Guns were not created for target practice and it’s a horrible argument and you know it. But next you’re going to say something stupid and live in your stubbornness while people die to gun violence.

[joeldalton]

Your argument consists of “guns are used to kill people”. Well no fucking shit, Sherlock. You really think that’s an insightful discussion point? You are a simpleton.

[ChefPapiChulo]

"guns were created to kill"

[ChefPapiChulo]

what is that a picture of?

[joeldalton]

So fucking what? So were swords, bombs, hand grenades, daggers, clubs, slings, boomerangs, fish hooks, spears, nukes. You have no god damned point.

[ChefPapiChulo]

would you say thats the shape of a person?

[ChefPapiChulo]

my point is that you've given murders access to a weapon that requires little to no skill and can kill several people who are near defenseless.

[joeldalton]

And I’ve also given hunters access to a weapon to feed their family. I’ve given weaker people - like women - access to a tool to protect themselves from much physically stronger attackers, citizens access to a tool to protect themselves from government tyranny and foreign invaders.

[Pterodon]

Then I gues it’s my cars fault I drive drunk or it’s my pens fault I miss spell

[Pterodon]

I guess you’d rather lock up the gun instead of the one that pulled the trigger

[ChefPapiChulo]

Nonsense.

[Lyndsielee666]

Why are you okay with people being able to buy ARs you bozo

[Pterodon]

@Lyndsielee666 because of the second amendment

[Lyndsielee666]

So you’d rather see kids die than get rid of automatics weapons. Bet you’re pro life too

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Lyndsielee666 he’s the type to argue slavery is okay because it was an amendment.

[Pterodon]

@Lyndsielee666 better question is why don’t you increase school security rather than take away rights of law abiding citizens?

[Lyndsielee666]

let me guess you think teachers should carry right?

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Lyndsielee666 he probably thinks teachers want to be armed and trained on how to use guns. Even though they’ve already banded together to pass gun control legislation.

[Pterodon]

All you have to have is a single entry point with security but multiple emergency one way exits just like banks and federal buildings. Simple

[ChefPapiChulo]

Have you heard of fire safety hazards?

[Lyndsielee666]

@chefpapichulo of course he does 😂 bet he thinks they should pay their own training with their already dog shit salary too

[ChefPapiChulo]

Of course you haven’t. You only repeat what you’re told to repeat like a drone.

Here read this.

www.aft.org/.../its-time-end-gun-violence

What’s what teachers think about your bullshit.

[Pterodon]

@Lyndsielee666 I just gave you the solution but you don’t want to hear it

[ChefPapiChulo]

That’s what*

[Lyndsielee666]

Like he said there’s literally safety hazards but go off 🤪🤪

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Lyndsielee666 yeah cause what teacher doesn’t want to be trained how to be a marksman instead of banning the problem? Next he’s going to say they’re false flags and that the government is run by lizard people.

[lofii]

You're arguing with imbeciles @Pterodon they will continue to argue that guns magically sprout legs and go on shooting rampages

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

what the hell does fire safety have to do with securing school OH OH OH Papi think the teachers are going to chain all other doors closed and have only have one door unlocked for egress from the school in case of a shooting or fire. You know what I would not put it past them to do that

[OddBeMe]

Does it matter? Either way the conbo kills and we need to regulate it.

[ChefPapiChulo]

just like how Japan outlawed samurais from carrying swords which is something only a civilized nation can do, America must outlaw guns. backwater america needs to be left behind.

[OddBeMe]

Agreed.

[Twalli]

Also every year 5 people are shot by their dog with their own gun.

[lofii]

Only 6 opinions here and none of them agree with you lol

What's it like being that lame?

[Jouth]

because the guns didn’t kill the guy

the person killed the guy