Wait…expand gun rights after a bunch of mass shootings?

[OddBeMe]

Uvalde victims.

Yes expand gun rights

No we should not

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+1 y

Watch them all praise the federal government now.

[Stoner710]

Yea expand gun rights, the things that stop the bad guy with a gun are good guys with guns a lot of the time without a shot being fired.

think if a women has a pump action shot gun and there’s a bad guy outside the house trying to break with the crack crack of the shot gun stops the bad guy with a gun because he doesn’t want to get shot.

in 1999 a anti semite was driving past a Jewish day school that Ben Shapiro was going to. They had guards outside who the potential school shooter though was armed so he went and shot up an unarmed unguarded Jewish community center. The idea that the guards outside the Jewish days school were armed with guns stopped the shooter from shooting up the school https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Jewish_Community_Center_shooting

[exitseven]

Yes, it sucks that a psycho was able to get past security measures and kill 19 people but the policies of liberal prosecutors and judges have made gun ownership almost a necessity. It is too bad it has come to this and it pisses me off but one of the roles of the government is to keep people safe. They are no longer capable to do this therefore people need the ability to do it on their own.

[MikeInHawaii]

Do you live in Honolulu also? The Honolulu police have the lowest closure rates in the nation and the handful of people they do arrest get slapped on the wrist. On “Crime Stoppers” on the evening news, I don’t know how many times I’ve seen someone with dozens of prior convictions wanted for “violating the terms of his probation.”

The liberal state legislature responded and just abolished cash bail. A friend, who is a cop, said he’s had catalytic converter thieves taunting him from the back of his patrol car with “I make three times as much money as you do and I’ll be back at it tomorrow.”

[exitseven]

@MikeInHawaii No, but I live in another loony liberal state. The judges let illegal aliens sneak out the back door of the court house before ICE can deport them, the new US attorney will not prosecute street crimes but spends her time going after a local city government for not being divers enough,
I went to firearms training for two weeks. It was not what I expected. There were lots of law enforcement people there and they were not the gung ho gun nuts that the fake news makes them out to be. There were also many citizens like me that are disillusioned by the government andjust want to be safe.

[MikeInHawaii]

My firearms safety course was taught by a cop. I go to the range because, if I ever have to fire a gun, I want to be able to hit what I aim at.

I have pulled a gun on someone and made a citizen’s arrest before. I was in Georgia. In Hawaii, they would probably arrest me for terroristic threats and actions for pulling a gun on a thief and release him without bond. In Georgia, he had to be held without bail since he gave his address as homeless when he was arrested.

Have you noticed no one is calling for diversity in the NBA? I’m white and 5’ 7”. There are about 25 million white men in this country my height or shorter. Only one is a retired NBA player and none are currently playing. (Monte Towe, formerly of the Denver Nuggets, is the one.)

[exitseven]

@MikeInHawaii I have a friend from college that is a retired Deputy Sherriff an he runs a training facility, mostly for cops. It was a really good program and I feel a lot more at ease with firearms now.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[CourtneyJane2]

I'm not opposed to gun ownership as I own a Glock 17 handgun for personal defense and I've had the training to use it effectively. We do however need to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics, so I'm all for background checks, red flag laws, waiting periods to receive firearms, closing the gun show loophole, and holding firearms dealers accountable if they ever put profit ahead of public safety and bypass all background checks to sell a gun to some deranged incel that immediately goes and shoots up a school full of children.

[Redhead999]

Does this mean there will be promotions in texas such as every time you buy a bottle of whiskey you get a free gun?

[MikeInHawaii]

Twenty years ago, at Columbine, kids bled to death waiting for help, with 800 cops outside. Uvalde cops had stand down orders. What stronger proof do you need that you should be ready to defend yourself? Kick open my front door and I have a.45 revolver by my bedside.

[GreatnessBack]

Exactly what I thought.
We need better help for people, so they don't become mass shooters. Also, less automatic firearms in the hands of idiots.
Now, they want to put more guns in the hands of idiots.

I think this is a ploy to start a national Purge, and anyone who supports that, trust me, it will NOT go the way you want it to.

[wheresmrcunnunglis]

All of this feels like a distraction to something way more disastrous, like some law that is trying its best to be passed under the radar.

[KrisPW]

Nothing was expanded. They confirmed that NY didn't have the right to restrict them as they were.

[OddBeMe]

Guns will now be expanding into NY

[Daniela1982]

How were gun rights expanded? I must have missed it.

[Juxtapose]

We should be armed and have the government fear us vs the other way around. I am eager to hear how this expansion is supposed to play out 🤔

[msc545]

You must be kidding. This is not 1776.

[Juxtapose]

Nah, I am serious. It's time we take back power, the government is too powerful and thinks it owns us.

[OddBeMe]

Funny I’d say big corporations own us.

[msc545]

The only issue is how many cruise missiles it would take to obliterate you and your friends and your popguns.

[Juxtapose]

@OddBeMe well the corporations own the government which owns us.

[Juxtapose]

@msc545 you do realize the USA military cannot be utilized against the public right?

[Juxtapose]

In the case of a revolution it would fall to the national guard, the military is forbidden from acting against the citizenry.

[Juxtapose]

Oh NVM I double checked and there's some sedition act made in 1807.

Still though, revolutions are very much possible.

[OddBeMe]

So now its big business. Not the govt.

[Juxtapose]

I'll say it again.

Businesses own the government.

The government owns us.

Businesses use the government to control us.

Fuck the oligarchy.

[Juxtapose]

It should be the people own businesses and the government tbf.

[OddBeMe]

Yet all businesses loved hillary and hated trump…

[OddBeMe]

Which in this instance they were right. But interesting how voters still have power.

[Juxtapose]

I think letting people believe they have power by voting is actually a brilliant way to calm the populace down when you are bending them over seven different ways and fucking them deep.

Trump isn't great but dear lord was Hillary a nightmare candidate. She reminds me of Mitt Romney or Dick Cheney, no fucking soul there man.

[OddBeMe]

you're right. But funny we keep getting sidetracked. Only half the friggin country votes.

[OddBeMe]

Hillary was ceo of a defense contractor that was later used in a $ trillion war?
Cuz Cheney was…

[Juxtapose]

They're all bad, Hillary and Dick both represent the corporate branches of their respective parties and those branches are strangling both parties to death.

The roots are poisoned and we must get money out of politics or none of us are going to be represented. I don't care if it's a second amendment solution or a peaceful one, it has to fucking happen or this country will fall further into a dystopian nightmare.

We already have civil asset forfeiture, people being arrested just for smoking weed and so on. This is not the country we deserve right now.

[MikeInHawaii]

@msc545 Over 100 million people were killed by their own governments in the twentieth century.

[msc545]

@MikeInHawaii And?

[IsoUser]

My feelings are that unless you're in the military Guys or Girls should not have the right to own Any Ak47 or AR15/M16 or Glock 9mm, Colt45 , 50 caliber or any other Military weapon

[spartan55]

Some of those are used by the military, but semi auto rifles and handguns are also used by civilians.

[MikeInHawaii]

A 9mm is a fairly small bullet. I guess my guns are okay. My.45 is a Taurus and my only semiautomatic weapon is a 12 gauge shotgun.

[SmokinAces2000]

Yeah don’t you know more guns means less gun violence

[jimmy2]

We need to stop bulling for 17 years then as seniiors they can't take anymore

[NathanDavis]

not enough freedoms per second

[Waldoe]

restrict gun rights = only criminals have guns

[OddBeMe]

Actually they wouldn't be able to afford them. You know restricting supply ups demand. You got that far in school right?

[MikeInHawaii]

Yeah, like the can’t afford drugs? That worked really well in Chicago, right?

[Waldoe]

if your a criminal, cost is No obstacle, or don't you understand what a criminal is?

[Anonymous]

You don't care either way.

[noohair]

With me, it is all about due process.

[Anonymous]

You’re goddamn right.

[WhiteSteve]

America🙃🤡🎪🤹‍♀️

[Chthou95]

What's with your obsession on taking guns away?