Great…another mass shooting targeting minorities. Maybe put some limits on guns?

[OddBeMe]

Don’t think they found him yet. But I’ll wager a crazy guy with an AR15.

More gun control is needed

Fck off, I like this world of violence and guns!

A total of 33 votes were cast: 15 girls and 18 guys. See detailed results

[Aerissa_Jade]

We can't treat guns like a drivers license as one is a privilege, one is a right.

Gun ownership should be treated like registering to vote. Which since so many people say registering to vote is 100% secure and should not have any fees associated with it.

Lets give people voter ID cards when they register and they can use those to buy a gun and get a gun with no background check fees as not everyone will have a drivers license or state ID card.

So sure, I'm all for that change.

I think we need to simply gun laws, remove some of the thousands of them out then, make it easier to buy a gun and quicker.

I don't care how many people get killed, as I am not going to become a victim so others feel fake safe. The number of deaths from a mass shooting, don't bother me at all for the price of freedom and my personal security.

Now if anyone really cares, they should get to the root of the problem, ignore the method and the tool and focus on why people are doing this and address that.

That is where 100% focus should be, figure out why society is creating these people and change society so it won't happen anymore while leaving the inanimate object alone.

Last thing we want is guns being outlawed and things like Nice France happening where nuts are using a truck and vehicles to mow down tens of thousands of people a year.

[Anonymous]

There are 80,000 federal and state gun laws and regulations now. What could you possibly add that would make any difference? An AR15 is just a 9mm handgun with a long stock and barrel to look like a machine gun. It's not actually a machine gun. Retards.

[Juxtapose]

Every freedom has a price. You want to drive cars? Lots of people are going to die. You want a modern lifestyle? You are going to pollute the Earth.

Without firearms we are defenseless against tyranny and nobody with two brain cells to rub together is going to be for that.

[OddBeMe]

Can we have car regulations match gun regulations? And environmental regs?

[Juxtapose]

I would prefer there be as few regulations as possible actually. The amount of laws we have is suffocating.

[OddBeMe]

So bringing up cars and environment was pretty stupid huh?

[Sevenpointfive]

this isn't the first one of the year, but the first new years that i've heard. it's time to come to terms with the reality of it. serial killing is out and mass shootings are in. what do you say?

[Anonymous]

Another white guy. Just ban white men from owning firearms.

[Venting101]

The gunman wasn't white. He was a 72 year old Asian guy.

[OddBeMe]

@Venting101 that threw me too. But gun argument still stands.

[Opinion Owner]

@Venting101 white culture was the problem

[Wallythewalrus]

Why do people like Anon double down on their stupidity? You're a fucking moron!

[Opinion Owner]

@Wallythewalrus go attend your fascist rally

[Wallythewalrus]

Brilliant come back! Lol! I see another low I. Qed one trick pony. It's not my fault you made yourself look stupid! Support your argument. Or can't you?

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus I think white rage has been proven. Ie…you

[Wallythewalrus]

Lol... no, the stupidity from the left has been continuously proven. Apparently she is triggered because the shooter wasn't white. She is called out on it and she doubles down! The media is doing the same thing. I find it funny and sad. By the way, do you support her nonsense?

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus It isn’t ridiculous to immediately assume a mass shooter is a young white male. We definitely got the male part right.

Wake me up when a female shoots up a school.

[Wallythewalrus]

I can somewhat agree but that wasn't even close to being my point. She posted, "Another white guy...", was proven wrong and continued to blame it on white culture? Obviously she watches
CNN and BSNBC, because the same thing happened to them. They jumped the gun (like always), set a narrative and were proven wrong. What's there response? Well, he was influenced by white culture. Just stop!

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus ok, and I mea culpea’d for the both of us. But seriously, us white guys need to check our rage. It really wasn’t a far off guess.

[Wallythewalrus]

Guessing is one thing but setting a narrative, reporting on it, without facts and then doubling down on it, even when you're proven wrong, is completely unacceptable. It proves they have a agenda.

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus are we reporters? Is this cnn? Dude, what are you really mad at? Open up buddy….

[Wallythewalrus]

No, but people like her represent the lefts mentality. She was wrong, I think we can agree on that, right? She was called out on it but instead of admitting it or just not responding, she doubles down! Those evil white people's culture are responsible? So, I call her out on how fucking ridiculous it is to even think that. What's her response? "Go attend your fascist rally". It's actually comical how the left USED to constantly preach how "race doesn't matter", when the gunman wasn't white. Now, suddenly, race DOES matter when the gunman isn't white, because those evil white folks are still responsible. And, as she proved, if anybody speaks out about how fucking dumb that is, you're called, "fascist", a "racist". Then the mass media says people like me are dividing the country for calling them out?

[Wallythewalrus]

By the way, I'm not white. I'm Mexican.

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus
1) you sound angry at her…what about me? I can tell you straight up I’m more liberal than she. She’s just not responding out of fear you’ll stalk her.
2) do right wingers ever give a mea culpa to mistakes? Fox News is one of the biggest fake news suppliers in the country.

[Wallythewalrus]

1) I'm not angry at you, because you kinda called her out... You replied "That threw me too", after another called her out about her post about a "white" person doing it.
2) Fox News makes the right look as bad as CNN and lets face it, the rest of the mass media makes the left look.
3) I do have some respect for you. You are liberal but you're not the type that would automatically call someone a "fascist" or "racist" for simply disagreeing with you. We have actually had interactions in the past, so I kinda know the type of man you are. You do own what you say and don't delete comments. I've had a LOT of that lately!

[Wallythewalrus]

Oh, before I go! How can I stalk someone that is Anon? Lmao

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus I just see a lot of anger from the right. Maybe more at women, fyi, she’s anon because pervs spamming, From what they tell me.

[Wallythewalrus]

Yeah? I see a lot of bull shit from the left. As I just showed. I was called a fascist because she tried to make it a race issue out of people dying but suddenly realized she fucked up! Plain and simple. It's typical though. When you have no argument, play the "race" card or in her case, the "fascist" card. It's what the left does best. Also, apparently you know who she is and are having a weird conversation behind the scenes with her and others. What ever...

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus not like you guys on the right ever make race cards on people dying… (coughs BLM) excuse me…

[Wallythewalrus]

I don't even know what that means.

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus how many arguments you fcks had over Chauvin and the dead black guy?

[Wallythewalrus]

How is that playing the race card?

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus you guys jumped all over BLACK lives matter.

[Wallythewalrus]

That isn't playing the race card. The reason people jumped all over them is because they were literally destroying property and injuring and killing people, while people like you and the media excused it. It was the left playing the race card through it all. Besides, it isn't a stretch to say a very high number of those rioters were white. It's always the left that injects race. The whole movement was started based on a lie perpetuated by the left! "Hands up, don't shoot". It was a fucking lie!

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus since a good number of looters were obviously white, yeah it was playing the race card. But I was talking about the actual death of Floyd. You guys dredged up every racist trope of the black man to save that killer cop.
(Not you personally, the right wing)

[Wallythewalrus]

Was George Floyd targeted and killed by cops because he was black? That's what we were told to believe. If George Floyd would have complied with the officer's order and not fought him, would he still be alive? When people would ask simple questions like these, we were pretty much told that we support the cops behavior because we hate blacks. That's playing the race card. The cop got what he deserved but don't expect me to believe it was racially motivated. I watched the body cam video and nothing on it showed any type of racist behavior. I really don't understand the point you're trying to make about the "right" playing the race card or how they played it.

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus he was handcuffed on his belly with a knee in his neck. And you blame him.

[OddBeMe]

And all he did wrong was sell loose cigs

[Wallythewalrus]

He was passing counterfeit 20 dollar bills. He also refused lawful orders. If Floyd hadn't died, he would have faced several charges. Also, you're starting to argue different things. Do I think it was his fault he died? Not entirely. Are you telling me he is without blame? At the time this happened, the cops actually had a legal restraint on him, it has since been outlawed. Because he wasn't cooperating and kicking at cops and refusing to get in the car, they were going to hog tie him. The cop definitely is to blame for not keeping control of the situation and other cops were at fault for letting it happen but it had absolutely nothing to do with his color. Do you agree?

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus he without blame for his death. Period.

[Wallythewalrus]

Had he complied to lawful orders, would he have died? Yes or no?

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus you guys keep saying that with all BLM deaths, you know that?

Doesn’t matter. He may have been talking shit, not following orders right away but THATS NOT A DEATH SENTENCE. Fck sake, you racist fcks.

[Wallythewalrus]

Playing the race card, are we? I never said he deserved to die, did I? All I said he is unquestionably partially responsible for his death. There are consequences for people's actions. I know the left has a problem with that, but that is the reality. I also notice you refuse to answer hard questions, that you obviously know the answers to, so as always, you pull the, "you racist fucks". Giving an honest answer to an important question doesn't make you a white supremacist.

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus he’s not responsible for chauvin strangling him with his knee you racist fck.

[Wallythewalrus]

Well, I can see you're just going to continue with "you racist fuck", because you don't wanna answer a couple simple questions. I wonder why that is?

[Dargil]

Maybe "we" should try enforcing existing laws first. Passing more laws will accomplish nothing.

[dustybiker]

Good point

[OddBeMe]

What laws aren’t we enforcing? Are background checks universal?

[Dargil]

Many more laws than that.

[OddBeMe]

How about just that one? I go to gun shows and some are diligent some don’t give a fck.

[Dargil]

Illegal possession laws.

[OddBeMe]

Domestic violence and freakin terrorists can get guns dude

[msc545]

It doesn't matter. Americans hold the Second Amendment as being so important that they are willing to give up their lives and the lives of their neighbors and children and keep that second amendment in place

[joeldalton]

Damn straight.

[Anonymous]

It's not going to happen. Guns are here to stay.

Instead, why not turn our attention to addressing the real issues that are causing men to do these things? Just a thought.

[OddBeMe]

Just a thought…we’re not saying get rid of guns you know. Just some regs.

[Opinion Owner]

Do you really think more regs will stop mass shootings?

[OddBeMe]

We’ve never tried it. Self regulation hasn’t worked.

[Juxtapose]

80,000 laws centered around guns would say otherwise.

[Opinion Owner]

What do you mean we haven't tried? We have tons of gun regulations already. What additional regs would you suggest that would actually make a real difference?

US borders open woefully open to anyone and everyone who wants to cross them illegally. Thousands of illegal immigrants come into the US illegally every day. Do you actually think limiting access to "legal" guns is going to stop mass shootings? People will still have access to guns, legally or illegally. Places like GB and Australia can effectively prevent guns crossing their borders illegally; the US will never be able to do that even if we wanted to.

If we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. I know it sounds cliché, but it's 100% accurate. Outlaws will still have easy access to guns, but law abiding citizens won't, and will lose their right to protect themselves from criminals, and from the very real threat of a government gone horribly wrong.

[OddBeMe]

So the amount of laws dictate how good they work? And if laws could still help? Nope.

[Opinion Owner]

Why didn't you answer my question? Perhaps you missed it, so I'll ask again.

What additional regs would you suggest that would actually make a real difference?

[EmmaMary]

Sadly dare I say "Only In America"!

[OddBeMe]

You may dare

[Anonymous]

They will never learn. There could be a shooting everyday and they would still hold their 'freedom of guns' higher than somebodymelses life.

[joeldalton]

Absolutely.

[OddBeMe]

@joeldalton that’s sick

[Juxtapose]

@joeldalton I second that, absolutely. No price is too high to avoid subjugation by a tyrannical government. You need a weapon in hand if somebody's coming to your house to put a chip in your brain!

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose what has a weapon done in our hands to stop govt overreach? So far 30k people dead per year times 200+ years.

[Juxtapose]

www.theguardian.com/.../oregon-militia-standoff-bundy-brothers-not-guilty-trial

And also the general intimidation factor. It prevented the below in Australia until they allowed themselves to be disarmed.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose the Bundy Klan just didn’t want pay taxes that they owed. They’re criminals and welfare queens. Oh and racists.
https://youtu.be/NO34a-6BZcw

[Juxtapose]

Firearms made a difference though, I don't care what their goal was.

[jshm2]

Guns aren't the problem - availability of cheap ammo is.

[Anonymous]

LA, California

One of the most tightly firearm restrictive areas of America, unsurprising really

[msc545]

It is also an area that has like a zillion guns

[Opinion Owner]

They could ban them all, we have here doesn't prevent criminal weapons of course

[OddBeMe]

Don’t want to ban them all. A few regs could help.

[Opinion Owner]

Here we've have 4 mass shootings in around as many decades, well 36 years to be accurate
The US has that quota in what a year or less

[OddBeMe]

Funny that the Bible Belt has more guns per 100,000 and more crime
https://ibb.co/SyLZd0v

[Opinion Owner]

Didn't say I was religious, would ban them all tomorrow if I could, they caused most of the wars in the past millennium

[msc545]

The guy that did that shooting here in LA was a 72-year-old Asian man. He killed himself before he could be arrested.

I never would have guessed age and race. Very odd.

[Juxtapose]

There are over 80,000 laws concerning firearms.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose and none have helped stop 30k gun deaths. And terrorists and domestic abusers can still get them.

[Juxtapose]

You're more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist.

Take away the gangsters and a lot of those numbers will disappear. They will get the guns regardless of the laws you make.

[joeldalton]

C’mon, why not call the shooter a maga white supremacist while you’re at it?

[OddBeMe]

Now that you bring you up

[joeldalton]

Yeah I bet it was!

[OddBeMe]

No it was liberal taking a break from hacky sack and sucking on a bong. Libs love guns!

[joeldalton]

Has to be white supremacy.

[OddBeMe]

Just placing a bet. I can afford to lose if I’m wrong…

[joeldalton]

I’m sure you are. When you’re already one of the dumbest tards on this site, and a loser in real life, there’s not much further down you can go.

[OddBeMe]

But you still can’t get enough of me

[joeldalton]

I’d be fine if you disappeared.

[joeldalton]

@OddBeMe you're awful quiet after you lost on all your bullshit assumptions.

[OddBeMe]

Sorry I work for a living. So he’s Asian and I’m automatically wrong?

[joeldalton]

He’s Asian, it wasn’t an AR-15. So you’re wrong on everything you stated. But as we’ve established, you’re an idiot.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Sounds like you're excited about bad shit so you can ask another question..

[Anonymous]

Cali has the strictness gun control laws in the country, and what has that accomplished? NOTHING.

[Opinion Owner]

By the way, the shooter was Asian, and likely an incel.

[xJayleenx]

I agree with you