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Illegal.
Infants cannot consent to body mods and circumcision has no medical benefit.
I find it very bizarre that so many guys really miss the question - they're more concerned with whether they were circumcised or not than addressing the immoral implications of the practice.
"I was circumcised so it's OK to inflict this suffering onto the next generation."
Some of the typical arguments I see pro-baby-mutilation people use -
"I just think it looks nicer"
Uh... Why are you concerned with attractive baby dick? Do I need to contact the authorities? I don't think you should be allowed near kids.
"It's easier to clean"
How gross do you have to be to rather have part of you cut off than clean it?
"Less likely to catch STDs"
Not true. And again, why are you worried about infants catching STDs?
"No adult would get circumcised!"
Then if you're so sure an adult version of the same person wouldn't consent, why assume a child would?
Because they won't remember the trauma? That's a lame excuse. We should be able to do all sorts of things to kids if the argument is they 'won't remember it'.
"Muh religious freedumb!!"
Babies are atheists. Your religious freedom entitles you to do whatever to your own body, not someone else's.
The American Academy of Pediatrics states that the potential benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks of the procedure... so legal...
I would just go with what my husband thinks because I don't have a penis to refer to lol but I know many circumcised individuals... the Middle East has functioning penises, on average lots of children, and they are fine.
People can't be honest... There are very few countries that banned circumcision.. and yet it doesn't change the fact that it was banned on the basis of "consent" rather than "health"... and hypocritical nevertheless as parents make decisions they see as beneficial for children ithotu consent otherwise.
Totally illegal.
living in the desert a thousand years or so ago with little water for washing etc, I can see some sort of thing for it.
2022, modern showers, washing facilities, most countries populated by people with a level of intelligence that means they understand personal hygiene, where it’s people understand consent, then no it’s barbaric.
yes if it’s a 3rd world country, populated by fuckwits that do not understand how to actually wash themselves, then yes it’s likely needed to stop them catching things stopped by decent hygiene.
Imagine a country where they circumcise kids as they do not believe men have the intelligence to wash themselves and carry out good hygiene practices….. then they let the same people have guns….
@JustiReno this only about those countries where the average intelligence means they do it for not understanding basic hygiene.
Religious grounds is just barking mad across the board,
In the modern world exactly what does it serve?
Yes, it started as a means to keep clean... and still makes cleaning easier... the advent of water doesn't make it any easier to enter a tight space... lol...
How is it barbaric? Large groups of populations live a normal life, still enjoying sex... and if sex is a ""little"" better with foreskin... one doesn't miss what they never knew.
On average, Middle Easterners (who are most likely to practice this) have the most children compared to their Western counterparts... So... clearly it is functioning.
@LovingLoverReturned erm how do you know it makes cleaning easier?
It is like a split second, as I said for those with limited intelligence on personal hygiene it will make a difference.
It’s barbaric because it’s a not consensual act.
Basically as a woman you have fuck all say in a baby getting mutilated.
It’s not your body, nor your right.
The American Academy of Pediatrics states that the potential benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks of the procedure
You make no sense. Parents make decisions for their babies without consent 100% of the time.
@LovingLoverReturned as I said as a woman you have fuck all say in it,
As you quote the Middle East, I take it you are okay with female genital mutilation.
This likely won’t come out, however the Red bits are where state law does not criminalise it in the US …
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I guess that’s a bunch of guys deciding there is nothing wrong with some mutilation
@LovingLoverReturned oh you are parent now then are you?
Yes parents makes decisions, mainly those that are not mutilating their kids.
Then again it’s easy to make a decision when it’s not your body being cut and sliced.
Responsible parenting I guess.
Once pediatrics support it and professional surgeons do the procedure, I accept it.
Do your research before you bring up things. FGM is done in thoughts it can reduce sexual promiscuity of a woman... Circumcision is done for hygiene.
Well for one thing your opinion is not more valuable than that of pediatricians. Have a nice day.
@LovingLoverReturned oh so no condemning of FGM…
Oh don’t need to do research on it, it’s fairly basic.
Do you support mutilating a child like it’s 6th century Middle East or not.
Fairly simple really.
Really easy decision for some when it’s not their body.
You don't have that great reasoning skills.
I support beneficial body modifications... not all...
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Sometimes a disease is spreading in your arm and you cut off that arm... yes I exaggerate an example, just to show how your generalizing mutilization is not reasonable.
@LovingLoverReturned as I said you never condemned something that is illegal in most countries and internationally condemned.
Thank you, have a nice day.
Says a lot about a person I guess.
I think it should be illegal for babies. in my opinion, it falls under genital mutilation, and it's a forced decision on a freaking infant. If you wanna get cut as an adult then go ahead, but don't force it on a being who can't even make a choice yet. Sheesh!
Circumcision is not necessary, and it destroys most of a man's natural capacity for pleasure, depending on how it's done. It also could contribute to men's impotence in their later years. The foreskin is there for a reason. It keeps the skin down there healthy and sensitive. Society has unfortunately made it a norm, but I hear it's becoming less and less popular, so that's good at least.
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There are few religions which don't ask for consent. They just do circumcision. In my opinion, why foreskin is given if it is not useful. If you want to go with cut dick. Go with it. Do not force anyone to undergo circumcision and do not do for infants. Because, they don't want it circumcised later
Appendix is an internal organ. One has nothing to do with it. But, removing foreskin mostly take out the pleasure a man's cock can have. (Pleasure while touching the head of the dick)
Yessss it should be illegal until the child is over 18 and can make that decision for themselves
Unless medically requiered, only an adult should be able to give consent to modificate (and in this case mutilate) THEIR OWN body and nobody else's.
Illegal because the child is too young to make the decision and is an unnecessary barbaric medical procedure.
Legal and up to the parent who has a dick and feels they know whats the best thing to do for their kid.
Guys tell me they are happy to be circumcised and dont even remember getting it done as a baby. Also girls are not going to do oral as much or I mean uncut guys won't be getting oral as much in school that might change as they're older though.
As someone else said, illegal until the guy is 18 and can make that choice himself.
That's crazy. I'm sorry but its cleaner and almost all boys I remember back in middle school were circumcised. It's normal in USA I think
@Grl2live_nlearn4u its cleaner in the same way that fingers would be cleaner if we removed the fingernails of newborns... our vulvas are harder to keep clean than intact penises are - and depending on the size of your labia, we produce more smegma. If his dick is gross and stinky its because he is gross, not because his dick hasn't been butchered. Also, something being normal in the USA in no way means it isn't horrible... school shootings are a good example for you...
We don't need laws regulating what can and can't be done to our bodies.
@katiesmuff there isn’t a law for this
That’s something that an adult should decide for themselves
If female genial mutilation is illegal, I find it hard to see why this elective surgery, however simple, is routinely performed on boys.
It's social hypocrisy really.
It would be mean to wait until a boy is 5 or 6 before getting him snipped.
It’s religion it’s old teachings…. Some people from both genders like one way others like it the other
Its clearly a form of child abuse. Genital mutilation is an extreme cult practice only practiced by the most deranged doom cults in history. Not acceptable.
It started among desert-dwelling individuals and is a means to keep clean...
@LovingLoverReturned it was fist implemented by egyptian priestesses as a fetish.
I think it should be illegal and that people who perform it should be arrested for child abuse.
I don’t see why it’s so controversial tbh I’m glad that I was circumcised
Genital mutilation, another double standard women don't have to worry about.
Its illegal in slovenia. Yay us for not allowing babies to be sliced
illegal unless it’s medically necessary.
Genital mutilation of a minor should be illegal
I was circumcised as an infant.
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Very legal.
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