Feminist "Logic". An oxymoron?

[Anonymous]

This is why I could never call myself a feminist. The lack of clarity, the hypocrisy, the warped logic, the endless whingeing, the unacknowledged bias, the constant blaming of men for almost everything, their promotion of socialist and Marxist ideas - there is just absolutely nothing positive, life-affirming or noble about it. It's vile, horrid, obscene and immoral.
Now for some heresy! :D
Gender roles exist for a reason. There are only two genders. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. Men should be masculine, women feminine. Being a traditional housewife is perfectly fine and acceptable. Children need discipline, and rules. Children also need both a mother and father. Abortion is murder. Marriage can only ever be between a man and a woman, not two men or two children.
Ah, I'm glad I got this out of my system. I've been wanting to lay this all out for a long time now. Such fun! :D

[Rudon00]

"Gender roles exist for a reason. There are only two genders. Men cannot become women, and women cannot become men. Men should be masculine, women feminine. Being a traditional housewife is perfectly fine and acceptable. Children need discipline, and rules. Children also need both a mother and father. Abortion is murder. Marriage can only ever be between a man and a woman, not two men or two children"

Enough said😜😜

[Rudon00]

Thanks for the MHO Snsl153

[lucas262]

And yes. It's possible to be an anti feminist and be pro women. For fucks sake.

Thank you.

This shit would melt away If more women spoke up and men quit simping.

[loveslongnails]

Nice that you got your rant in, but I'm afraid you're confusing today's absurd "feminism" with how it originated, and what it's REALLY all about. My grandmother and mother were good examples of that. They fought for women to have the same "rights" as men under the law on issues such as voting, property ownership, pay, housing, getting a loan, and things like that. There was no "gender" arguments - it was about being treated equally in the legal areas of life, for the most part, and not being deemed "second class citizens whose purpose was to pump out kids and raise them".

What you see, hear and read about today is mostly a perversion of that. Whatever your views are, you should fight for your right to keep them. But you should also fight for the right for others to disagree with you, and not have EITHER or ANY views inflicted upon you because a mere majority might be in political control at any given time.

There will always be radicals within every group, and every movement. You shouldn't pay much heed to "socialism or Marxism" talking points either - it's all bullshit made up to scare people. Capitalism will always rule this country, and you and I will always be one of the cogs on the wheel unless we become billionaires.

I will not debate your values or beliefs with you. I just wanted to point out that REAL feminism is about equality under the law, NOT changing genders or reassigning this thing or that. Feminist Nazi's and MGTOW is just noise that a few ascribe to. Pay it no mind.

[The_Shadow_Dweller]

I just wish to meet a girl like you.

This is exactly what my question was based on. Did not see your question, honestly. It was my own question.

In this world, it is becoming increasingly difficult to identify some girl as a normal good girl, a feminist and a radical feminist. How to identify? That was my question.

[Soteris]

Well first of all, very little of what you actually said there has to do with feminism. Secondly, you are fucking deranged and I dont even know where to start correcting your laughably incorrect worldview.

[Asker]

So... you disagree? What I've said has EVERYTHING to do with feminism!

[Asker]

(sigh) Yet another deranged lunatic who has to use the F-word to say... basically nothing really.

[Soteris]

Feminism is about gender equality. It does not say anything about housewives for example.. or how to educate children.. or abortion.. or Marxism etc..

What it does do is correctly point out that gender (AKA "Man" and "Woman") is a social construct that we created ourselves and does not exist in reality so we should not pretend it does. As such laws and stereotypes dependent on gender existing is objectively false and should not exist. Pretty simple and furthermore, VERY FUCKING LOGICAL.

[Asker]

That's just it you see; feminism is NOT about equality. It may once have been about equality, in the distant past before either one of us were around, but since the 'Third Wave' it's been about pretending to be a victim, and blaming men for everything that could possibly go wrong. It's been about avoiding responsibility for one's own mistakes, and trying to avoid the consequences of one's own decisions.
If you really do think it's about "equality", then answer this question: when was the last time you heard a feminist support the draft for women? When did a feminist say, "I would love to serve my country by fighting on the front lines"?
I await your answer, but I already know what the answer will be, and that is NEVER!

[Soteris]

First of all, the "Third wave" was over a decade ago. Secondly, it was only about victimization as far as trying to include women of color and other minorities rather than letting them be ignored and not receiving the equality that they were owed. Granted, you have no idea what feminism is about, much less what the third wave is about. I know this because unlike you, I am an actual feminist.

Furthermore while there are a division amongst feminists regarding what to do with the draft, the main group behind abolishing the draft all together for philosophical anti-war reasons are mainly feminists arguing that neither men nor women should be forced into the draft.

On the other side there has been a lot of success integrating women into the army recently upto and including the green beret and marines.

Here is a site for feminists against the draft as an example:
https://hasbrouck.org/draft/women/feminism.html

While again, there are feminist in favor of women in the draft as well I am personally against the draft so I decided to give you that example. You are free to use google to find pro-female-draft feminists if you really want.

[Jamie05rhs]

I'm glad I'm an actual feminist. My logic is sound.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Marry me….. like actually 😊🔥

[OddBeMe]

That sounds like a man wrote that caption.

[Asker]

Probably. But is that mysterious man actually wrong? He might have exaggerated a little, but when was the last time you heard a (female, not male) feminist say they would just LOVE to volunteer to fight on the front-lines with the men, for the cause of equality?

[LimitedBenefits101]

HA feminist will call you " pick me girl"🤣🤣

[Asker]

I don't know what you mean.

[msc545]

Most definitely an Oxymoron.

[Alex8736]

Very well said