The Biden Administration just approved another 820 million dollars to be sent to Ukraine as military aide. Why is this coming out of our pockets? This isn't our war and they've been talking about a increase in inflation but all they're doing is contributing to it going up. How are we suppose to live with these rising prices today? How does this make you feel? The US sending another 800 million straight from the DoD's website. "Money for wars but can't feed the poor" -2pac
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Not to mention our own Military Budget spending is 801 million for our own armed forces yearly as of 2021. So why are we sending way more then our own budget to another country?
Another 820 million dollars to Ukraine. How does that make you feel?
The globalist cabal is using the U. S. government and military to grab control over every resource - land, minerals, food, water, air, animals and people - on the planet. They don't give one dry fuck about Ukraine and they're not worried about Russia or China. But they do want to bleed American citizens dry and make them suffer to the point where they will welcome the end of representative government and establishment of the totalitarian One World Government/New World Order/Great Reset/UN Agenda 2030.
Arms and aid to model governments in places like Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc. generates profit and control for the global masters and helps to impoverish the people of the USA and world.
What's interesting is, it's great to arm terrorists, Nazis and insurgents in order to create terror, suffering and death, but the cabal also needs to disarm honest Americans to prevent resistance against their dictatorial plans.
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Yes they're trying to deteriorate the people and strip them of their rights for the great reset. WEF has had this planned for years.
it makes me feel better that America is trying to help but ik that sending money isn't going to do as much as I wish it did. half of my family lives in Ukraine and they keep saying that things are just getting worse.
@_deeznuts Why do you idiots do this? Okay, I kind of get it. To see idiots come out the wood work. GOOD FUCKING JOB @_deeznuts you got an underage kid to give you a LOVE emoji. You sick fucking sadistic bastard!!
Everything I've heard, says Kamala is damaged goods. She's in charge of the border, but refuses to go there. During the primaries, with about 25 of them on stage, Kamala was the first to wash out. I don't even think the dumbest of the dumb Democrats would want her.
The word on the street is that Pete Buttigieg is the guy.
I disagree, and most everyone on this site disagrees with me. I'm putting my Vegas bet on AOC.
She's dumb as a box of rocks, but she's offering a lot of free shit. Look how much Bernie was loved by young voters. They didn't love HIM, they loved the idea of free shit.
I told my dad that Trump would get the nomination in 2016. He said it won't happen. Then when Trump mopped the floor with his opponents, my dad said he could never beat Hillary. I stood my ground and said he will win.
Now my money is on AOC. If I'm wrong, and still on this site, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong.
Speaking of guys like that, Beta O'Rourke. Once he said he was going to take away everyone's guns, he pissed off Republicans, centrists like me, AND most gun-owning Liberals (yes, they exist). Even the Democrats know he's radioactive and don't want to go near him. "Hell yes I'm going to take away your guns" might as well been, "Of course I'm going to violate your daughter and make you watch at gunpoint by secret service agents."
I would say you would lose that bet. Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez even old enough to run? She'll only be 34 by October 2024. Also, if there's ONE person in Washington more stupid than Biden, it's AOC. She makes even the woke look slightly less retarded. Her IQ literally has to be in the high 70s, low 80s. Like high-functioning autism or something. She wouldn't even be able to pretend to be good at debating.
The only president American truly needs to fix things, is Tulsi Gabbard. But the US is too far gone and insane for her to work, now.
Not that it matters; the Democrats are just going to rig the election again. But IF I had to choose two candidates to replace Biden who are "competent looking" but nothing more than meat puppets, I'd say Michael Bloomberg or Kirsten Gillibrand. Probably insane-ass Gillibrand cause vagina.
What about us? I'm sorry for their situation but fuck em. They got establishment back in the office and we go right back to being the world police. My kid can't find baby formula for his kid because we send it south of the border. Stright from America first to America last again. Los Angeles looks like it's full of refugees of our own, but we need to pay more taxes to fund some bullshit all the way in Eastern Europe... and for what in return. Like the gender studies money and infrastructure we were sending to the middle east before this shit... what in return? The government just launders tax dollars and put a bunch of it back into their own pockets. Our country is a fucking scam. That's how it makes me feel. Maybe I'm not right about everything, but that's how I fucking feel.
Disgusted. Any money sent will be preconditioned on Ukraine fighting to the last Ukrainian. They’re starting to five conscription notices to women and disabled men.
A lot of this money actually goes to defense corporations and NGOs, the latter of which employ many elites and their children. Much of what actually goes to Ukraine will be skimmed by local oligarchs and then go out the back door into the pockets Western elites. There is a reason many politicians had a fit when Rand Paul asked to set up oversight on the spending.
Well I think that NATO and Biden are bunch of limp dicks scared of doing what they should to. I think they are bleeding Russia though, so its better than nothing. If aren't going to put any troops on the ground, then you got to do that other than nothing.
@SJ1984 Because Russia is known threat to American interests, and they will not be appeased but just being allowed to take the Ukraine.
Seriously just doing nothing is exactly what we did when Hitler too the Czech Republic and Austria in 1939. And in 1940 he invaded France and Poland. We swore never again, that we would allow someone like Putin to go unopposed. Over 70 years since there's not been a war in Europe until now... war in Europe is no joke. Last over 15 to 20 million were killed.
There are "American interests" in a nation on the other side of the globe that most Americans couldn't even locate on a map? Does this have something to do with Hunter's laptop scandal, and his dealings in Ukraine? As for the last major war in Europe, well, guess who started that one? Germany, a nation that is traditionally considered to be a part of the West, and is now an integral member of NATO. The number of deaths you quote is actually wrong about World War 2 (it was approx. 55 million), and guess what? Most of those deaths were RUSSIANS fighting against the Germans. And don't compare Russia to Germany, or Putin to Hitler! Hitler didn't laugh on TV like a deranged psychopath when he arranged for the murder of the leader of another nation. That was Hillary Clinton, when she found out about Qathafi's death. Actually, you know what? Russia should intervene in Canada and Mexico, because there certainly are "Russian interests" there. The same with Cuba. They should form a military alliance with those nations, station troops and missiles there, and let's see how people like you would like that! How would you like to see your country encircled?
@SJ1984 Well if you are so naive that you can't see the dire sequences of letting Russian rolling unopposed across Eastern Europe...
Comrade ⭐ you're off your rocker, and just astroturfing a Russian agenda. But whatever the USSR is dead, and Russians couldn't even take the Ukraine... thier invasion was a clown show.
Yup the Russians got Slaughter in first of WWII. But honestly it was ethnic Ukrainians, Bulgarians, Lithuanians... for the most part. Russians didn't even try to defend them... so much so the Ukraine tried to defect to the Germans to fight and kill Russians... but Hilter screwed them.
This is just Cold War paranoia. Russia, and the USSR before it, never had any intention to take over Western Europe? What for? Russia is the world's richest nation when it comes to natural resources. There is nothing they don't already have. Much of Russia is empty, particularly Siberia, because the country is so vast and they don't have enough people to fill it, so why on Earth would they want more territory? Your beliefs are truly bizarre, you know nothing about Russia at all.
So, what exactly would the POINT of Ukraine joining NATO have been? Why were they turned down, if the US is going to pay billions of dollars for it anyway? What would motivate ANY other country to bother defending itself when Uncle Sam will just bail you out regardless?
Meanwhile, millions of Americans struggle to put food on the table.
"This isn't our war" Actually, it is. It's a type of proxy war and strategically pivotal. You don't stop it now, you'll pay 1000 * $820 million later. You don't realize that because you don't remember the Cold War.
"... they've been talking about a increase in inflation... How are we suppose to live with these rising prices today?"
The same way we did 40+ fucking years ago! Inflation may hurt, but it is nothing and easily solvable although the medicine isn't fun because it starts a recession. Right now, it's better to have inflation and a job, then less inflation and no job. If you lived in the 1970s, you'd know that.
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Yes but years ago the CIA paid for proxy wars through drugs and weapons, now they're straight up using tax dollars for it.
How is Ukraine "strategically pivotal"? Do explain that one. Ukraine is in Eastern Europe, not the Caribbean or just south of the border. The U. S. has no business being there at all.
But, there are a lot of other things at play here: 1. Ukraine is a major supplier of wheat in the world - as is Russia. This greatly impacts the rest of Europe's ability to eat wheat-based products such as pastas and breads. 2. Ukraine is a major buffer between the West and Russia. 3. Ukraine is significant frontage on the Black Sea. The Black Sea is very important to the Russians since the alternative for them is mostly far northern ports such as on the Baltic Sea, Arctic Ocean, or Eastern Siberia/Kamchatka Peninsula. The Black Sea provides a southern port. This is one reason why the Crimean Peninsula was invaded in 2014. (Honestly, it should have been Russian all along, but that's another story related to Nikita Kruschev.) So, if Russia controls that much more of the Black Sea, that jeopardizes Greece and Turkey, NATO members. But, just as bad, it gives a southern aka warm weather abilities to expand its navy. 4. You don't appease expansionist dictators. That's the lesson to be learned from Hitler and which is why Europe is, much to Russia's surprise, so unified against Russia. Finland and Sweden joining NATO illustrates that - especially in Finland's case because, in the Russo-Finn War of 1940, Russia grabbed a considerable amount of Finland... and they grabbed the Baltic States (Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia) as well in 1940. How did they get away with that? Hitler made a deal - the "non-agression pact" - with the Russians in the summer of 1939. Right after that pact was signed, Poland was invaded and WW2 began because part of the pact was to divide Poland between the Russians and the Germans. Indeed, even to this day, parts of Ukraine were once in Poland. (The Ukrainian city of Lviv is the major switch.)
The C. I. A? You're kidding me, right? You trust the C. I. A. to give you accurate information. Okay, let's assume that what you've provided there is in any way accurate. Point number one is true enough, but if you're actually worried about starvation then you should probably do much more to encourage food production in your own nation first. Become far less reliant upon imports. It's much cheaper and far more productive than getting involved in wars all the time. Point number 2 - No, wrong. Ukraine is a buffer for Russia from the very real threat of the NATO alliance, and alliance that since 1991 has been slowly expanding towards Russia's borders, like some kind of slow motion 'Operation Barbarossa'. Can you blame ordinary Russians for hating the West, since they've been invaded so many times from that direction? Point 3 - The Black Sea doesn't belong to America. America is nowhere near the Black Sea. You people have NO business being there! Let Greece and Turkey worry about it. In any case, until the war in Ukraine, Greece and Turkey had very good relations with Russia. Point 4 - Here you're just spouting racist, anti-Russian propaganda that you've had absorbed into your brain over the years. Stop watching the mainstream, corporate media, and actually QUESTION what you're being told.
It’s frustrating, but at least the destination and reasoning is apparent. They’ve also sent billions to Afghanistan and refuse to reveal the details. Since the military pulled out and the US-backed government collapsed, what’s the money for? Can they prove we’re not supporting the Taliban?
@DryGermanGuy uh no, why don't you actually look it up. I'm assuming you're from Germany so your country only sent 2 Billion and I also took a look at Britain too and they only sent 1.5 bill LOL but the US is sending nearly a trillion or already over that in the past 6 months since this war started. Therefore the US is sending the most and all the other NATO countries send bullshit. And I went with the two bog factors in Europe in NATO aka Germany and Britain. I can also add France and Italy and Turkey. But I already know they sent just as less too. So NO your WRONG guy.
I really don't have the time to school you in reading and comparing (!) numbers, just a little reminder, that war did start in 2014 and that's how long we are supporting the Ukraine already. And not all expenses is money going directly to the Ukraine, many programs have been fired up in the European NATO countries to be ready for defense in larger troop numbers and faster deployments. The EU Rapid Deployment Forces will be increased from 50.000 to 300.000 soldiers. You think that comes free? The German parliament alone pledged 100 billion Euros special allocation for national defense (part of that buys us American F-35s).
@DryGermanGuy you do realize our forces are already out there plus sending more money then our yearly budget? Lol and in 2014 that was only a skirmish going on between the separatist and Ukraine. RUSSIA sent no forces in during that time. Again like always we FOOT the Bill you all sit there and give less like every single war. But God forbid we send you 300 coalition forces and 2 billion. That's what Trump was ready to pull our troops out of Germany cause he was tired you people jerking us around, but since Biden's in office you get away with the bullshit.
So very clearly you never read or understood what I provided. Trump was just an insane ass clown with no social graces, respect for diplomacy or basic understanding of NATO. Pulling out of Europe/NATO is really a GREAT plan with a tyrant such as Putin watching every step. So, yeah, of course an old war horse like Biden does his best to repair that damage with his partners. And today NATO is stronger than ever, including pulling long-time neutral countries like Finland and Sweden into their midst. This is the way to go and this will show Putin that his diabolical scorched earth campaign will fail. Additional food for thought: China is also watching.
@DryGermanGuy So it's OK to make us foot the bill every time because China and Russia are watching & as long as Biden is agreeing to pay the bill. We're doing great things and it's what is best for everyone right? Just as long as we PAY the most.
I really don't get your mathematical problem here? The United States' 2022 military budget is 782 billion dollars. Germany's 2022 military budget is 56 billion euros (special budget not included). So, yeah, for the United States it's possible to spend a larger amount for foreign military aid.
@DryGermanGuy you're not doing the math. We spent over 800 million for our OWN FORCES and now we're spending that for awhole another country. So why isn't Germany only sending 2 Billion but not 56 billion? Again not doing your parts at all like always.
Actually, several NATO countries have disarmed themselves and gone deep into debt to give money to Ukraine. The UK is out of anti-tank missiles and hand-held anti-aircraft missiles. It is also raiding pension and education funds to send money to Zelensky.
You seem to be thoroughly confused by budgets versus foreign aid, million versus billion and program/troops/development costs. And, AGAIN, you clearly did not read the Wikipedia table I provided. Are you seriously asking why Germany cannot send its whole 56 billion Euro budget as foreign aid? SERIOUSLY? Because that is 95%+ planned and allotted money, for barracks' upkeep, soldiers' wages, fuel for tanks and planes, ammunition, weapon development programs, etc etc.
Here are the current numbers for financial aid (from my previous Wiki link) Germany: €1.83 billion in bilateral aid since 2014 approx. €4 billion via the EU in the form of grants and loans since 2014. €240 million via the EU in loans in 2022. Loan of over €150 million via KfW in April 2022. €425 million via the 'Stand Up For Ukraine' pledging campaign and an additional 70 million for medical aid via the EU. Over €1 billion additional military aid to Ukraine for weapons purchases in April 2022 Additional €1 billion pledged in the form of grants in May 2022
United States: Obama: $1 billion loan on 4 March 2014. Trump: $200 million on 20 July 2018. Biden: $200 million on 19 January 2022. $13.6 billion in combined military and humanitarian aid for "responding to the situation in Ukraine", via the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2022 on 15 March 2022.
@DryGermanGuy thanks for proving me right again that time after time since 2014 we have footed the bill for Ukraine every SINGLE time way more then Germany or any other NATO country.
It's time to audit all of the money sent to the very corrupt country of Ukraine, also to ensure that the weapons we've given them have actually reached the Ukrainian military and are being used to fight the Russians.
But it's interesting that there is plenty of money for the country that is a source of income for US politicians' family members (cough, Hunter Biden), but not for ordinary people in the US.
America‘s military budget is 1000 times that. At least this money helps someone, but there‘s trillions the government is wasting in other regarda that could be used to help people…why complain about one of the less expensive and more useful spendings?
America has built itself up in the last 70 years to be the first and foremost military power in the world, this has a cost, it costs all the allied nations that are apart of NATO, we all feel it, I have not had a night out in a year, and I have stopped eating fast food, got no budget for new cloths. Quit smoking. It costs and changing my habits is reducing the stress I have on my budget.
Just another way to bankrupt the country , thanks to THE DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA!
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It’s just prolonging it since eventually Russia will win unless something happens to Putin. They have always found money for war but not food or for fixing the economy
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