The man isn't the goal, he is the bridge?

[RandomGuy1030]

Mgtow losers talk about this all the time. Besides male movie characters , no males fuck females with ulterior motives. But id say 100% of females have sex with males with an ulterior motive

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You mgtow losers/pua losers really want women who dont have self respect. Its NATURAL for women to expect something for having sex

[Anonymous]

There are two types of sex:

1) Validational

2) Transactional

Validation sex is sex where both people are horny for each other, and they’re having sex just because they’re hot for each other.

Transactional sex is sex where one person is more attracted to the other, one-sided attraction. The person who has less sexual desire for the other is only doing so because they have something else to gain from it. If they didn’t have anything else to gain they wouldn’t be interested.

The same goes for relationships, but obviously all relationships are sexual.

Most men only ever experience transactional sex, and they falsely assume this to be the case for all men everywhere. That’s where your idea comes from, and it’s where MGTOW ideas come from.

So for example, imagine the girl who married a fat older dude who has a lot of money. That’s obviously transactional, she’s only with him for the money and she wouldn’t be banging that dude otherwise.

But what about casual sex? What about the girl who meets a good looking guy at a club one night and they go home? Or what about the girl who gets talking to a guy online and ends up either inviting him to her house or going to his house to have sex without even having gone on a date? That’s validational, they have nothing else to gain, they’re doing it because they’re horny.

[RandomGuy1030]

That makes sense but I still feel like there's some ulterior motive. Maybe im projecting

[Opinion Owner]

I think we’re kind of taught that women always have sex in exchange for something, even if we’re talking about in exchange for love and affection. But that’s not the case at all, women get horny just like we do. It just seems unrealistic if you’ve never experienced it first-hand.

[RandomGuy1030]

No i dont believe that. Theyre coping. Real women aren't that easy

[Opinion Owner]

Like I said, only because you haven’t seen it for yourself.

[RandomGuy1030]

Ofc there are women who do it but real women dont have sex and expect nothing

[Opinion Owner]

If you ever wanna be the kind of guy who gets laid without being used for something else you’d better drop that idea, because it’s not true. I’ve banged enough women for nothing, and then watched them act completely differently with another dude, to know that. You’re 18, you haven’t seen it yet, you’re not speaking from experience.

[Ghost141414]

If you have to pay something for sex with a women this means that you are beta

[LazerBean]

What's the difference between a woman who has sex to get something else from a man, and a man who has sex because he's a slave to his dick? Absolutely nothing, because they're both equally trashy and an utter waste of time.

On another note, did you ever get a job or are you still on welfare while you wait for a million dollars to fall into your lap?

[RandomGuy1030]

Why do I need a job if I can have sex and eat good food and sleep in good places

[LazerBean]

To be a respectable adult.

[LazerBean]

And I'll take that as a no LMFAO

[RandomGuy1030]

Anyone can run around laying bricks. Or making burgers and tacos. Or my dream was to take pics of hot models. But anyone can do that. doesn't excite me

[LazerBean]

And anyone can be a loser living off of welfare. Being respectable members of society usually doesn't interest losers, so that's not surprising.

[RandomGuy1030]

Im not a loser. Im high iq

[LazerBean]

Being useful and not a leech on society is what makes someone not a loser. So yeah still a loser.

[RandomGuy1030]

I fail to see how making an ice cream cone at McDonalds or assembling a Mercedes at a car plant is better than me pursuing my dream

[LazerBean]

Because you're stupid.

Making your own money vs. Being a leech and using other people's money that they worked for

[RandomGuy1030]

Bitch the difference between needing a job and leeching is a penis

[LazerBean]

No, that's the difference between having a respectable job and being a whore.

[RandomGuy1030]

Then make some Fabrics my lady. for sexy whores to wear

[LazerBean]

Nah I don't associate with whores, I have standards.

[LazerBean]

So since you're a whore I guess I'll have to stop replying to you. Enjoy staying poor.

[RandomGuy1030]

Im rich

[RandomGuy1030]

I have everything i need to get rich

[Ninania]

I fuck men all the time without other goals than good sex.

[James899]

That's a good goal

[RandomGuy1030]

You should try to get something more

[888theGreat]

What is her ID?