
What does pleading the fifth mean? Does it mean Trump's guilty?


The fifth amendment to the US Constitution, as ratified…
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
“No person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law…”
These are the key points being leveraged, generally, when a person accused of a crime is pleading the fifth. It’s not an admission of guilt. It’s an acknowledgment that every person, including the guilty, has rights and that the government has responsibilities.
It’s abuse by the guilty, in hindsight, is why too many people think pleading the fifth intones guilt. But something to keep in mind is that part in the Miranda warning, “Anything you do say (or do) can and will be used against you in a court of law.”. That’s not hyperbole. They can and will use everything at their disposal, including lying and intimidation, in order to get a conviction. The fifth amendment gives us the right and the ability to defend ourselves in that situation.
This is the 5th amendment:
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
So, pleading the 5th means you won't be a witness against yourself, leaving the burden of proof to be held elsewhere. HOWEVER, the Grand Jury part makes it interesting. If Trump is indicted by a Grand Jury, like the one convened in Georgia, and he pleads the 5th, he may be found guilty not only of contempt of court, but of the crime he's accused of "in absentia", even though he's physically present in court. That's going to be fun.
The fifth amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
I think Trump is pleading the 5th because he's just been emotionally raped and he has for Nally drawn the line in the sand. They messed with him for the last time but raiding his home. He's not going to give them anything else. He is in fact saying Fu*K you people!!! He's not going to be Mr. Nice Guy anymore!
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What does anything that man say mean? I stopped listening after the live bleach and UV light comments. It wasn’t even funny anymore. Where did all the more solid republicans (all politicians) go? The ones who fought it out at work and went for drinks with each other at the end of the day. They were interesting. We need them back.
It effectively means he's admitting guilt but not wanting everything that comes with it in a court of law.
I think there's quite of a bit of damning documents in FBI hands now and he's looking for the safest route possible where he's not in federal prison for the rest of his life.
He himself has gone on to say MANY times that pleading the 5th is cowardly and a full admittance of guilt. That if you have nothing to hide, then you shouldn't need to. By his own volition, he's admitting he's royally fucked
I hope you’re not American
@joeldalton and if I am?
You’re an embarrassment.
@joeldalton Doesn't change the fact that Trump got raided by the FBI; operation being approved by the very person he appointed as head.
That’s completely different from the case where Trump pled the 5th. I guess it’s too much for me to expect you to be intelligent.
And it’s not even a case. Trump has been charged with nothing regarding the illegal FBI raid.
@joeldalton Prove then that the raid was illegal. Cause so far everything points to its full legality; judge approved and all. Also, take note: the 'less intelligent' one never insulted you, whereas you took a shot from the very beginning. Also never insulted Trump, just merely reciprocating current events and his own statements
It means he has the right to say nothing, is he guilty... well I am not sure what he is guilty of, but he is probably guilty of something. I mean he's Teflon Don for reason right?
What's the old saying, "never point a finger at someone unless you want two pointed back at you?" Well old Teflon Don has been pointing a lot of fingers at people. Sure they are probably crooks, but he's no saint either and he had benefited a lot from the people he is point fingers at. So he kind of as been "shitting where he eats."
Sounds like standard procedure to me. If you are accused of something, shut the hell up and let the lawyer do all the talking.
I can't imagine a lawyer telling a client to blab away. The opposing lawyers will twist it around to mean almost anything. That's what they do. So don't give them anything to twist.
If you are accused of murder and you have a rock solid alibi that you were a thousand miles away, with a thousand witnesses, let the lawyer take care of it, don't do it yourself. In other words, keep your mouth shut.
Pleading the fifth means that you are not going to self incriminate yourself and no it does not mean trumps guilty and if Trump is guilty then so is Hunter Biden and Joe Biden we’re gonna play this political game than every single politician in the United States and the world by the way is going to go to prison for a very very very long time on all sides of the political spectrum except maybe Mick Romney because he is the most milquetoast unappealing politician in the history of politics I can’t stand that guy
Pleading the fifth guarantees you the right to not self incriminate.
By pleading the fifth in a criminal proceeding, the jury can't use it against you, they can only use the facts in front of them.
In a civil proceeding, though, it is very different. Pleading the fifth in a civil proceeding is basically admitting guilt & the jury CAN use it against you.
As the FBI is fond of setting up perjury traps by asking a series of questions, some of which the average person will probably get wrong, it is probably better to let them kick rocks and refuse to answer. no matter who you are.
And no, it is not an admission of guilt. Pleading the 5th means that you are not going to assist the prosecution as they try to convict or railroad you.
And no, this is not a defense of Trump. I dislike him as I do 99% of all politicians, or really anyone who gets a thrill out of having power over others.
Your reply made me laugh @OddBeMe. 😀
It kind of reminds me of a couple of my questions when I was asked for data to support widely acknowledged facts, did so, put it in an update and as a response and still would get delusional responses from people who clearly read nothing and just wanted to troll.
Haven’t heard this part of the story yet, but I’d say his lawyer’s are right, because he’d look absolutely ridiculous and lose all credibility after all the times he’s spoken negatively about doing so regarding others.
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Trump is a piece of garbage traitor to our country. He is 100% guilty of a large number of issues. Trying to overthrow the government, making fun of a disabled person on live TV, killing millions of Americans needlessly by ignoring the WHO and CDC as well as all the safeguards the previous 4 Presidents put in place in case of a Pandemic, asking the red hat lemmings to kill Clinton, etc... etc... etc. The guy asked if he could issues a pardon on himself before he left office.
"The WALLS ARE CLOSING IN." ~Increasingly desperate news anchor who's seemingly aged 30 years in just 2 years.
Now I don't support Trump, and I hope he's guilty of as many things possible, but pleading the fifth can not be an indication of guilt. If you're say arrested by an officer as a suspect, you can still be innocent, and pleading the fifth is in fact an insanely safe idea. Even if you're innocent and you say something that they want you to say, maybe you didn't word it carefully enough, they will absolutely use it against you and twist the meaning. Saying "I plead the fifth" and refusing to speak can save your entire case.
How does exercising your constitutional rights suggest you are guilty? One should always exercise the rights that are available. When the police ask you questions, you should remain silent. That certainly doesn’t mean you’re guilty. I don’t have any comment about the former president, but everyone please exercise your fifth amendment right and protect yourself.
It's just the standard advice to plead the 5th.
There's a reason why the 5th exist, it's not to protect the guilty, after all, the guilty are evident without even opening their mouths, though they usually help.
But he likely ain't pleading the 5th here, though it's useful to cut this 6year long watergate fishing expedition that always go nowhere.
If we know his lawyers are advising him, it means he's resisting doing it.
Please, keep shooting yourselves in the feet.
The ignorance displayed here by some regarding the use of the Fifth Amendment shows a naive belief in the good faith of weaponized Democratic-run government agencies. The idea that Trump should roll over and play dead for people who are trying to railroad him is absurd.
I hope that none of you get falsely accused of a crime.
It means he is exercising his rights, just like some people (including Trump) should exercise his right to remain silent. Exercising a right doesn't make someone guilty.
just to be clear do you also disagree with Trumps own words too?
@Still-alive Sure, he's an ass... and like all politicians changes his opinion all the time. Isn't that something they are required to do? change their stance on something as they evolve? 😂 since they ALL do it.
lol so isn't it a little convenient that he changes his mind when he's the subject of an investigation? hmmmmm
@Still-alive When has he not been under investigation? I don't know his history cause I don't care, but seems to me he has been under investigation for the last few decades.
He's under investigation for very good reasons (plural as there's multiple things he's done) this time. the noose is tightening around his neck at this moment.
What you say is technically true, and that's why I copied the 5th amendment in my answer. It puts the burden of proof on the prosecution to present evidence that is "beyond a reasonable doubt" in order to convict.
However - and now we're talking reality versus legality - let's say it's a murder case, or something involving more than 1 co-conspirator. Person A is asked " do you have any knowledge of action X", and they plead the 5th. Asked again "did you directly partake in action X"... or " did you help to plan action X". Pleading the 5th, in reality, puts you in a very bad position if indeed you are innocent. It's not an admission of guilt, I agree, but in reality, it's an admission of having knowledge or having planned/partaken in something materially that would do self-harm, or put you under threat from another.
“Taking the Fifth" or “pleading the Fifth” are colloquial terms used to refer to an individual's decision to invoke their right against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution.
Not talking to people wishing to do you hard doesn't imply guilt.
People here talking as if Trump is already guilty because he plead the fifth. He could be but that's not what pleading the fifth means.
During interviews/interrogations, slip of tongue, miscommunications, misinterpretations can occur. As a right, you have the right to not say anything. Does not necessarily mean you are hiding something.
It's actually wise for EVERYONE to plead the fifth and take the battle to the proper forum aka the court with lawyers at your side.
It means you are refusing to answer because you do not wish to say anything that might incriminate yourself.
Trump has stated that anybody who does this "has something to hide" and is guilty.
Of course this is not true and things like that coming out of his mouth are always for "other" people. They aren't supposed to apply to him in his mind.
Refusing to answer on fifth amendment grounds means your answers could implicate you in a crime. It’s the only way you can refuse to answer a question under oath. There is no blanket right to do so. People will have to draw their own conclusions as to what he’s hiding.
It refers the the 5th amendment of the constitution. It protects people from being forced to incriminate themselves. It does not mean Trump is guilty. Trump refuses to say anything because he knows that no matter what he says it will be taken out of context or misconstrued to mean something else.
It means choosing not to testify
A lot of people choose not to say anything for themselves, knowing the people who are after them will take every little thing they say and twist it against them into something more suitable their agenda, like they've done to Trump 987 billion times in the last 6 years
No, it does not mean he's guilty
No. Pleading the fifth is a legally neutral statement; it's more of an "I'll get back to you on that" than "this will go badly for me." Pleading the fifth is the legal equivalent of if you're on a date with woman and you ask her about her passions and she says something to the effect of "my passions are always changing."
It's referring to the Fifth Amendment which states you don't have to tell authorities or the judge anything that could potentially incriminate you.
Usually, but not necessarily. You know how the media loves to twist everything he says, so they're probably just being cautious
If you don’t like freedom, you are welcome to move to a lesser country like china, Russia, Canada and Australia. Thank goodness we live in an amazing country with laws written by our forefathers to protect us from tyranny.
It means if you answer you are pretty much saying that you'd be either committing a crime (undercover not being able to state their name in court) or admitting to having committed a crime (even if it wasn't the one you are accused of). Yet, since you didn't answer, nobody knows exactly why you plead the fifth. Essentially it's a non answer.
Also Trump is guilty. Impeachments mean that he did what he was accused of. The impeachment is merely to decide if that warrants his removal from holding political office. Seeing as the president may need to do certain things that are not lawful to protect the US, he is exempt from certain laws, yet if he oversteps those bounds too much he may be removed for doing so. He did what he was accused of for each impeachment, but it was decided that that didn't mean he couldn't hold political office again.
no he is not and he was not impeached out of office. FBI has been proven to produce fake evidence , they lied to judges about evidence. The FBI is now a branch of Democratic Party.
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nope, Democrats said it was impeachable , which clearly means it wasn't. They think anti abortionists are terrorists.
Again , these are Democrats. They don't have standards , no morals, lie , plant evidence, edit evidence so it makes someone look guilty. They never apply same thing to fellow Democrats
Trump kind of set the bar on this one. He once said, "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" So I guess by this standard, he's GUILTY. This comes from the 'Law And Order' president.
It means they don't trust him to not lie and perjure himself.
I wouldn't trust him to not talk. It wouldn't even be hard to bait him. Hit him in his pride and he will blabber on.
You know what pleading the fifth means. Trump’s attorneys are actually giving him good advice. Trump often says stupid things that make him sound guilty when he really isn’t (Mueller investigation).
At this point with all these people against him trying to find something to stick. It would be stupid not to.
Of course it is not an admission of guilt. We all have the right to invoke the 5th. But a few years ago, Trump and all his turd followers claimed that taking the 5th was an admission of guilt.
He is guilty.
The only thing to argue about is to what extent. He's got no friends or colleagues left to throw under the bus. So he's going to start with family, it seems.
Being convicted beyond a reasonable doubt means you're guilty. I know you fucktards hate people using their constitutional rights, so this is no surprise.
denocrats depise the constitution
They don't have him on anything it's just another drama tv show that nothing will come out of it. I'm not watching it I am however shouting TRUMP 2024.
A person can use the 5th Amendment to not answer a question which May incriminating in some way.
It's your right to remain silent and you should utilize that religiously. Utilizing that constitutionally protected right is not indicative of guilt and shame on you for implying it is.
Plain and simple: it means withholding incriminating information, which for him, is already closing the barn after the horses get out.
It means he's a coward and he's guilty.
wow, then so are Democrats which use this all the time
Reason 10,432 We kicked the English out.
@joeldalton Yea, English actually think they still matter in the world. Only thing they still have is James Bond movies and a few nice cars. Notice when another country needs help, it is America they turn to, not England. I mean if they need a man servant , then yes, they consider England.
@888theGreat And they’ve emasculated James Bond, so they don’t even have that.
@joeldalton I think they plan to make him a homo chasing men's pp's and ball sacks
new meaning to tea bagging (you know they love tea)
Trump seems to think that you don’t need to plead the fifth if you’re innocent.
He has said that before, but he always says things like that when it's someone he wants to see punished whether they are guilty of anything or not
His own "rules" do not apply to him
It means he using his constitutional rights , something you liberals hate. Since you hate the constitution. He is tired of the crooked judges and prosecutors that are trying set him up.
No you moron. Pleading the 5th is to prevent the misinterpretation of information which I know the left will do because they do it every time they open their mouths. Ever heard if Miranda Rights?
It means you have the right to keep your mouth shut. It proves neither guilt or innocence of what a person is being accused of.
The fifth is the right to not incriminate yourself. So you have the right to remain silent. The mafia did it back in the days.
It just means he's exercising his constitutional right to not testify against himself. It says nothing about guilt or innocence. It basically says that his lawyer isn't an absolute moron.
No it does not mean that a person is guilty of anything.
Ron DeSantis has a huge and long-lasting erection, which he thinks is chronic priapism from this.
Refusing to speak to an ideologically bias leftist legal system does not mean guilt.
It simply means you don’t want to play their bullshit games.
The left does run the country.
Don’t use one single item of political bullshit to base your entire argument about how the society works.
99% of the bullshit in society and the media is left biased.
It just means you have the right not to respond to the questions. Usually so you don't incriminate yourself, or commit perjury.
It means you are exercising your legal right to not incriminate yourself by what you say.
It's a neutral statement from a man who knows that to confess to anything is what the democrats want so it's better to be executed by them and be a martyr to the cause
Pleading the 5th just means remaining silent, this is often not done out of guilt but out of a lack of knowledge regarding the laws in question.
Means can't incriminate him self of what he did illegal
You know and everyone knows your guilty. But you refused to confess
The 5th is a no comment situation. Is saying I will not incremate myself
Declaring his fifth amendment rights does not mean he's guilty. Whatever he may say might be incriminating to him or others.
It means he is hiding something.
Ain't that the damn truth
No that just mean he won't play a rigged game
He hasn't even been charged yet, lmfao.
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