Liz Cheney just lost by 37 points, is the Cheney line done?

[anylolone]

How much will she make on her new MSNBC jig?

[WhiteSteve]

I think everyone knew she was going to lose, including her, standing up to Trump’s shenanigans was an obvious suicide mission. In democracies, the vote is left to the people, which makes us feel good, but we ignore the fact that most people are absolute morons who have no idea what’s best for themselves, or ourselves collectively as a society. I’m not saying I have a better idea, I’m just saying to never confuse “the will of the people” with “doing the right thing”, because they very often are not the same thing. People are INCREDIBLY fucking stupid, and it’s important that we never lose sight of that.

Cheney voted along with Trump’s policies in like the 90-some percentile of her votes, so she and I likely have very different political views and goals. But when the rubber met the road, she actually had the lady-balls to put her career on the line and put America over her party. Kinzinger doing the same thing. And I never heard a foul word about either of them until they went against the apparent deity (that’s so fucking alarming🤦‍♂️) who is Donald Trump, so it’s not like there was any real good explanation besides this irrational fealty in the Republican Party. The opposite of Liz Cheney is Kevin McCarthy, who we now KNOW was against the whole Jan. 6th kerfuffle, as exposed by personal text messages, even calling for Trump to be removed via 25th amendment…. then Trump has one meeting with McCarthy and all of a sudden McCarthy’s public message is pro-Trump. It’s just so laughably disingenuous that I can’t get mad about it anymore. And if you ask him anything about it he immediately and obviously starts talking about the Southern border. Like you couldn’t make up this level of tomfoolery. Can you people not see through this blatant fraud, or do you just not want to, so that it doesn’t challenge your own beliefs. It’s fascinating and scary at the same time. I’m trying to remember I never gave a shit about politics before this egregious shitshow of the last 5-6 years forced me into paying attention. Trump made me have to care and be involved, and I’ll always hate him for that, but I just couldn’t sit idly by in good conscience, lmao.

Anyway, as Cheney once said, “a day will come when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.” Facts on facts on facts on facts. Despite our politics differences, this was one of the higher-character moves I’ve ever seen of a politician. Good on ya, Liz. You’ve done the right thing.

[WhiteSteve]

Also love how Fox aired like thirty seconds of her confession, and as soon as she started getting into specifics about how this was about Jan. 6th ultimately, they cut her off before she was done, and Laura Ingraham is like “she didn’t even congratulate her opponent!”, as we had just been permitted to hear the entirety of her comments. And just can’t understand how any rational person takes FoxNews seriously, it was pretty bush league. Either hear her out, or don’t air it, why is that hard?

[WhiteSteve]

*her concession

[Lookingforthetruth]

"In democracies, the vote is left to the people, which makes us feel good, but we ignore the fact that most people are absolute morons who have no idea what’s best for themselves, or ourselves collectively as a society."

Your vote isn't yours anymore. Dominion is now a key factor in election outcomes in the US.

[WhiteSteve]

@Lookingforthetruth oh my gosh…. respectfully, sir, and I haven’t got the energy to even engage in a debate out it anymore,…none of that seems to be at all true. I’m certainly open to hearing any argument that succeeds in a court of law, but no documentary or wild accusations from Rudy Giuliani or the MyPillow Guy will suffice as legitimate evidence.

[anylolone]

Of course you don't.

"She voted with trump 90%" well, clearly not in what counts for the wyoming people.

And yeah, people are stupid, wanna know what's even dumber?
Believing you know better than all of them together.

Only a moron, like you, not even intellectually fit for the army, could think you can nanny the world.

[Anonymous]

The fact that this slimey daughter of a war criminal is the Democrats newest hero is fucking hilarious. You people have no principles.

[Lookingforthetruth]

democrats want the destruction of the US.

[Avicenna]

Democrats love their useful idiots. Kinzinger is another one.

[jongreat46]

@Avicenna Republicans love useful collaborators like Justice Thomas, similar to how Nazis used Jewish collaborators in the concentration camps.

[Avicenna]

@jongreat46: Your sick comments show some real depravity. Democrats think they own any non-white person and as you showed, hate it when they think for themselves rather than parrot the Democratic totalitarian party line.

[jongreat46]

@Avicenna wrong, republicans think they own the white vote and anyone who supports equality with non whites must be some self hating white person who has a bunch of white guilt and is unemployed because God forbid a white person should call you on your bigotry and prejudice.

[Avicenna]

@jongreat46; You just can't stop showing how deranged you are. Go see a psychologist before you do something crazy.

[jongreat46]

@Avicenna how about you go to university and study history, oh wait according to you universities are nothing more than indoctrinating concentration camps for the socialist democrats right.

[Avicenna]

@jongreat46: Newsflash: a person doesn't have to attend a university to learn about history. There are public libraries and bookstores with history books, museums and historical sites that sometimes have historians on staff, and there are plenty of online resources and historical societies. Furthermore, universities generally allow some public access to their collections. The British Museum has a fantastic library. So does the Deutsches Museum. And those are just two examples of museums with libraries that are accessible to the public.

[jongreat46]

@Avicenna Right because you can't stand having anyone correct you on your confirmation bias in a school.

[Avicenna]

@jongreat46: Don't be bitter because the 200k in student loan debt you ran up for that BA in Grievance Studies didn't pay off. With interest, it's now over 300k and you have no hope of paying it off.

[jongreat46]

@Avicenna how about you admit trump lost 2020 fairly.

[anylolone]

@jongreat46 How about none of half of the US and half of the world don't?
Since you guys still don't admit trump won fairly in 2016, despite your failed hit jobs.

[Curmudgeon]

@jongreat46 How about you stop "Ballot harvesting" (i. e., voting after the fact) and have established polling places again? The COVID pretext has led to dubious elections, either way. And don't think you opponents will start playing it right back at you, because they will.

[Anonymous]

She’s done for the time being. The Trump cult will not tolerate anyone who speaks truth or has scruples of any time. History will vindicate Cheney though. Her legacy will be one of honor, unlike the lying, misinformation peddling, power at any cost MAGA movement. School children will one day learn about this dark political period in American history and the heroes that stood against it. Personally, I’m hoping she launches an independent run for President to siphon conservative votes from Trump if he isn’t a jailbird by 2024 and decides to run. Liz understands how dangerous he and his followers are to the republic and to the constitution.

[jongreat46]

yup, I agree with your answer, anyone who dares speak the truth must be eliminated like the nazis did in the night of the long knives.

[anylolone]

Sweetheart, the summer of love wasn't in our neighborhoods. Is she in jail?

No, they just didn't voted for her because she didn't listened to her electorate.
Easy, peasy.

Let's just be simple, we didn't voted of liz because she's a warhawk RINO, you didn't voted for warren because she doesn't have a dick.

[Opinion Owner]

She’s anything but a RINO. She’s among the most conservative members of the House. She just refused to repeat false claims about voter fraud and believes Jan. 6th was a crime. No she didn’t represent her electorate on those points but those voters are clearly on the wrong side of history and she chose to remain principled. I admire that. Instead they’ll get a coward who will self compromise anytime it’s politically expedient.

[anylolone]

She's a rino, wanna know who said it?
The biggest authority on what makes someone a conservative or not, you know, the conservatives.

And that's world wide, by the way.

[Opinion Owner]

Conservatism isn’t an opinion. It’s a static set of political principles. That was the dumbest comment I’ve read all day on here. Lol

[CALIGVLA]

Her legacy is supporting torture, white girl. 🤭

www.humanrightsfirst.org/.../liz-cheney-defends-torture-same-old-lies

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Let’s not pretend that’s why she was voted out. She refused to go along with the alternate reality that Trumpers live in. If she had, you wouldn’t be bringing this up now.

[CALIGVLA]

"If she had, you wouldn’t be bringing this up now"

Do you think it's effective to use mental gymnastics to defend torturers and people who are pro-torture, white girl?

[anylolone]

If trump hadn't won, you'd be talking about obama, and how he promised and refused to end torture by the US, close gitmo as he said he would.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Where did I defend torture? Reading comprehension not a strong suit among the rubes? I simply said that’s not the reason Cheney was defeated. That was a very clumsy attempt at deflection but it’s what I expect.

[CALIGVLA]

Does it matter why Cheney was defeated?

The only thing I see is an extremely corrupt politician (who happens to be daughter of a war criminal and support torture) be defeated. Period.

But you, the Righteous White Woman, are taking up the cudgels for a torture-enthusiast... Why?

[joeldalton]

I never knew you libs were fans of the military industrial complex and neocons. Weird.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA So your argument is basically….. why does the truth matter? That’s the entire problem with people like you. It doesn’t matter why Cheney was defeated. It doesn’t matter if there really was voter fraud. It doesn’t matter that Jan 6th wasn’t legitimate protest. You create your own reality and get pissy when others refuse to live in it. Then you resort to deflection when challenged on it. You’re shameless and ridiculous people.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton Never said I was. Weird. The school system really failed you didn’t it?

[CALIGVLA]

You support an extremely corrupt politician who happens to be the daughter of one of our most famous war criminals, support torture and be on the weapons industry's payroll... And it's me the one who "creates their own reality"?

Don't be so pathetic, Roxy.

[joeldalton]

You know who Liz’s dad is, right?

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA I didn’t say I support Cheney’s politics. You’re dishonestly claiming that. I said history will vindicate Cheney on the Jan. 6th committee and opposition to repeating lies just to stay in office. You went into meltdown mode and flooded the zone with nonsense. Truth apparently is not your strong suit.

[CALIGVLA]

"I didn’t say I support Cheney’s politics"

Ayo, white bish. Why do you pretend otherwise? We all know you habe a crush on Neo Cons!

Am I supposed to believe her charade of "defending democracy"? Really? A crook like her?

[anylolone]

As I said, you aren't the authority on conservatism, conservatives are.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Well, she’s opposed the soft coup attempt that took place and is shining light on the falsehoods that have undermined faith in our democratic system. She opposes sedition and violence. I’d say that’s a pretty fair defense of democracy when the rest of her party is kowtowing to the fascists and conspiracy theorists who would burn this country to the ground. Let’s wait 20 years and see who history vindicates….. Trump or Cheney. Wanna place a wager?

[Opinion Owner]

@anylolone No, conservatism is a defined political ideology. It isn’t whatever you say it is. It isn’t kissing Trump’s ring. That’s your attempt at creating an alternate reality.

[CALIGVLA]

Dear white bish,

Liz Cheney supports torture, period. That said, how can you claim she opposes violence? Isn't torture a kind of violence?

www.humanrightsfirst.org/.../liz-cheney-defends-torture-same-old-lies

[anylolone]

And it's somehow defined by being a warmonger, according to you.

It's not defined by burk, or the conservatives who were inspired by his work, no, it's by you and liz cheney.

[jennifer_bloom]

She’s a hero, she choose following her morals over maintaining her political career and she stood up to the bully knowing she might be jailed or bankrupt for doing it.

[DarkWinterNights]

Cheney is supposed to represent her constituents. All she did was bad mouth them.

[jongreat46]

@DarkWinterNights No, she spoke the truth about anyone who supports a racist traitor.

[DarkWinterNights]

@jongreat46, Your truth is biased. But regardless Wyoming has the highest percentage of support for Trump in the country. So my point stands. She badmouthed and insulted her constituents and got voted out.

[jongreat46]

@DarkWinterNights apparently in your world of make believe your opinions and fantasies are worth more than facts and academic research.

[DarkWinterNights]

@jongreat46, I don’t know what you’re referring to… unless you’re questioning the election results?

[jongreat46]

@DarkWinterNights the election results were free and fair and if you don't like it then move to a country like China or Iran where it is conservative and male dominated.

[DarkWinterNights]

@jongreat46, I still don’t know what you’re arguing. You see that she lost in a landslide right?

[jongreat46]

@DarkWinterNights I am talking about the 2020 election and by the way, the fact that you feel threated by Liz Cheyney is proof of how small your male dominated church I mean political party is.

[jongreat46]

@DarkWinterNights I am talking about the reason why she lost is because he spoke the truth of the traitor Donald Trump.

[DarkWinterNights]

@jongreat46, I was talking about this election and how she spent a year and a half insulting Wyoming GOP who clearly dislike her and removed her from office in yesterdays Primary.

[jongreat46]

@DarkWinterNight too bad and if why would the wyoming GOP matter to her when she clearly does not like them and the feeling is mutual. The Wyoming GOP is hostile to any woman running and the leadership of the wyoming GOP is male majority if you look at their party website. So of course the women in the party are going to go with the male majority like good little housewives.

[anylolone]

Morals?

What morals warmonger cheney (her or her father) have?

[anylolone]

@jongreat46 She lost to a woman.

[CALIGVLA]

Your hero supports torture, Jennifer.

www.humanrightsfirst.org/.../liz-cheney-defends-torture-same-old-lies

[normalice]

I'm sure she'll be fine financially, if that's your concern. Politically, her goal to excise the hate from the GOP is doomed to failure, though. But maybe she'll be able to tank the GOP's hate enough to clear the way for democrats to do their job for a few cycles. Perhaps Democrats might even be able to slip reinstating the fairness doctrine under the radar while the right busies itself with continuing to throw its feces at Cheney, and then the hate would certianly die out within a generation.

[anylolone]

Clear the job for the democrats?
All she could do is spoil the democrat vote.

[normalice]

I don't see anyone who demands a government that works for them ever voting for a Republican, including Cheney. I could maybe have seen Romney because he has a bit of a track record establishing sensible policy, even if he later engages in rhetoric against it for partisan reasons (i. e. obamacare), but the idea that a Democrat would decide to vote against making the rich pay their fair share, racial/social justice, reasonable gun safety laws, funding public education and healthcare, bodily autonomy, protecting the right to vote, and taking climate change seriously out of solidarity with Cheney, who opposes all of those things, is a bit of a stretch.

But it's true all the same that Cheney is a fresh resource and no one has yet put her to use. It could go either way but I suspect Cheney will attempt to push her own narrative in the direction of bringing the Republican party back onto "the rails." Unfortunately that process will require more destruction of the republican party - as long as they continue to think they can get away with what they've done they have no incentive to stop trying to get away with it.

[anylolone]

Again, as I said and let that take home in your heart.
The only job she's gonna do now is spoil the democrat vote.

[normalice]

Oh, you didn't read it. Forgot you're in the far right cult, lol.

[anylolone]

I read it, but as you clearly ignored me to cope, I'm here stating what you don't wanna know.
That all she could do is spoil the vote for the democrats.

[normalice]

You didn't read it, though. You would have noticed I covered the possibility of her being a spoiler candidate for democrats and would thus not have continued to bring it up as though I was unaware.

[anylolone]

You just coped.
I'm not interested in your cope, I'm interested on you internalizing the obvious truth.

She's going to spoil the democrat vote. Not by much, but she'll.

I don't need to explain why, the explanation is on the post, it's a double digit number.

[normalice]

Again, I addressed that but you didn't read it. But I'm not one of your cult leaders so why would you?

[anylolone]

Seriously, going "no, not true bro" isn't addressing it.
"She votes completely different from" you are still here, defending her 37 point loss.

[normalice]

There's no way to "address" a disagreement I'm not having. If you had read it you would have seen that I conceded the possibility. But you didn't read it.

Because you're in a cult 😕

[Fuentes]

Cheney's lol remember Dick was the VP during Hurricane Katrina. Where does she think she gets off pretending she's for the people when thousands of Americans died & her dad & Bush did nothing for days. Oh but "black Lives Matter" then why were so many left to die in New Oreleans lol biggest joke ever

[captain_voidwalker]

Yeah that was sooooo fucked up, we could spend billions in Iraq searching for Fake W. M. D's but couldn't help evacuate our own people. Damn I hated Bush and Cheney glad to see his hellspawn get ousted by a maga candidate

[Fuentes]

@captain_voidwalker Bush also stopped the Rangers from hunting & canoeing Bin Laden lol anyone from or related to that Administration pretending to be for the people & SJW are sick and all deserve to lose.

[captain_voidwalker]

Amen brother

[Avicenna]

She'll probably try to run for the Senate one day. If Trump is the Republican nominee in 2024, I could see her running as an independent to take some votes from him or for the Republican nomination in 2024 as a splitter candidate to take votes from challengers to whomever the Republican Establishment wants to be the presidential nominee.

[anylolone]

Votes from him? Did you see the result? She won't even take votes from him in her home state.

[Avicenna]

Well, remember Evan McMullin in Utah in 2016? Something like that. Didn't work, but the Democrats thought Hillary might win Utah because of him.

[anylolone]

Yeah, but it will be even worst than that.

[Soteris]

Nope. Liz Cheney just secured herself a permanent political legacy. She is the "what if?" candidate that people will look back to and imagine a brighter future if she had won. If anything, it is stroke of political genius that will serve her well for literally the rest of her life at the small price of not winning one primary.

[anylolone]

Yeah, and fusion energy is coming next year.

[Soteris]

Dude. A large part of the republican voters just voted for a candidate running on putting him in jail and every republican failure from now on can be twisted in favor of Liz Cheney "Because none of this would have happened if she had won." She has literally won the lottery of not having to lift a finger while still benefiting from every possible future outcome.

Was it planned? Who knows, but the fact remains that she will be unable to fail publicly because she has no power while at the same time becoming more and more famous and popular for standing up against Trump. Before this the Republicans was in a really shitty spot because even after years upon years they were unable to put forth another leader besides Trump. Now Liz Cheney has installed herself as the only other option.

You are going to see a whole lot more of her in the future.

[anylolone]

Yeah, but are you excited for the new drug that will cure old age?

[CALIGVLA]

Soteris boy has a crush on neo cons who support torture, huh?

"YES, DEFENDING TORTURE IS DEFENDING DUHMOCWACY!" - he would say.

[Soteris]

@CALIGVLA Oh, I think she is among the worst people in world history but that does not make her dumb or means she will not succeed in her aspirations. Granted, being one of the worst persons in world history is also not very special in the American conservative party today since all of them are deplorable traitors to the human species but details.

[anylolone]

Actually, the fact that she lost by 37 points while getting dems to vote for her is what means that she won't achieve her aspirations.

Also, can I interest you in a bridge?

[Soteris]

Dude, she is a politician. She does not really have any principles that would motivate her to so openly oppose Trump. She did it because she thought it was beneficial to her political career and that included the political calculation that she might very well lose her primary election yet she still thought it was worth it. You are so naive.

[BCA6010]

How much does The View pay lately? She can be the new token fake conservative.

[anylolone]

Well, she has her hot takes, which makes her perfect for the view.

[docster]

It was great news to hear that the people of Wyoming told her: 'You're FIRED!!'. One of the news networks mentioned yesterday that she and her husband's net worth has gone from $7 million to $44 million in just the last 6 years. She won't starve.

[Jltakk]

Cheney and Bush got us into the biggest financial bust of a war. I don't want anyone related to them in charge of anything outside of a McDonald's. The only people whining about Liz HAD to have been too young to witness her shithead of a father, and the apple didn't fall far from the tree in terms of how corrupt and soulless she is. Wyoming was smart, sorry.

[CALIGVLA]

I'm not satisfied, since I think the only good Neo Con is the dead one, but I'm happy she was at least voted out by the electorate in her own state.

Too bad that corrupt mainstream media or military industrial complex will find a way to give her power, money and influence.

[loveslongnails]

Oddly, her father is a complete ass wipe, but Liz is one of the only sensible people in the Republican toilet bowl, at this time. Folks in Wyoming have never been much on the ball anyway, so they can secede from the union along with Texas and nobody will give a fuck.

[Blueeyes81]

More like notice. There are roughly 150 cities in our country that have a higher population than the entire state of Wyoming.

[loveslongnails]

@Blueeyes81 Yes, but now they another Trumpidiot for a Senator.

[TroyDT]

Hopefully. Not a Trump fan, but the Cheneys are war mongers so good riddance.

[anylolone]

More than fair. That's enough for most not to vote for her.

[joeldalton]

Good riddance. Trump has ended the Clinton, McCain, and Cheney political families.

[DarkWinterNights]

Bush family too. Jeb got shut down so hard in 2016 we never heard from him again.

[joeldalton]

@DarkWinterNights True, I forgot about that weasel.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I thought McCain simply just died lol

[joeldalton]

@WhiteBoyChill If Meagan had any aspirations, they're killed too

[WhiteBoyChill]

Ohh gotcha

[exitseven]

Shew will be recycled as a contributor on MSNBC and will end up as a lobbyist for some defense contractors.

[Oigit]

I just hope she does not invite the person that beat her to a hunting trip.

[jongreat46]

you mean like how her father "accidently" shot at Bush.

[John_Doesnt]

Donald supporters would rather support a criminal than someone who stands for democracy. The US government is failing.

[anylolone]

Gosh, the projection from your part!

Everyone is a nazi if they don't give you unlimited powers and listen without question.

[John_Doesnt]

That comment was written very homosexually.

[anylolone]

Not really, you have the power to turn gay men into asexuals just by entering the gay bar.

If I had any taste for dick, I'd have lost it all just by seeing your comment.

[John_Doesnt]

so you're admitting to be asexual and bicurious? Good for you on coming out, but this is the wrong place to do that.

[anylolone]

Not really. You are bad enough to kill anyone's sexuality, but since I don't like dick and my sexuality is stable there isn't much for you to affect.

But yeah, you could kill the sexuality of even a lesbian, if she was out of a bad relationship, that's how faith draining and disgusting you are.

[JacobL883]

I didn't realize it was by that much but yes I think she is done, I'm sure she will try to run for President in 2024 but isn't going to stand a chance.

[JacobL883]

if she loses as the incumbent in her district by that much there is ZERO chance she has a chance at running for president

[Anonymous]

i know it wasn't even close she got slaughtered in that election , it was obvious her time was up

[EnglishEuropean]

Cheney is just getting started. She can run elsewhere as an independent. Not that I know anything about American politics but that's what a lot of people are saying.

[anylolone]

She could run as independent and be humiliated by other independent candidates.

[jongreat46]

No, Liz Cheyney is not done and if Donald Trump is threatened by her then I would vote for her and anyone running against trump and any traitor that supported HIS COUP ATTEMPT.

[anylolone]

You didn't, dems in mass didn't. The truth is that you won't vote for her for the same reason you didn't voted for warren, because she doesn't have a dick.

[Lookingforthetruth]

She thought throwing trump under the bus and being sympathetic to democrats would have been a good political career move.

[jongreat46]

says the ones who tried to overthrow the constitution and establish a fascist dictatorship like Gilead.

[Lookingforthetruth]

@jongreat46 I'm not feeding you troll.

[jongreat46]

you are just a sad little basement boy aren't you.

[anylolone]

@jongreat46 "Overthrow the democracy" nothing trump did was unprecedented, not even alternative electors.

[jongreat46]

oh please, you are just bitter that this is the truth that will hurt republicans at every election.

[anylolone]

@jongreat46 It doesn't seem to be hurting them now, much to the contrary, the truth seems to be hurting the DNC, a lot.

[Anonymous]

I bet Junior got coked up to the eyeballs.

[Jouth]

Pepsi better

[Part2603]

What, do you think he and Hunter hang out or what?

[hahahmm]

A poll found that liberals would never bother to defend the U. S. if it got invaded. They'd run off. So are they in the "courage" or the "coke" column?

[anylolone]

hahahmm is right, and we all know zelensky uses coke, by the way, it's not a secret.

And neither does it detracts from him, since he actually functions, different from the guy who's being stealing money from his county, hunter biden.

[hahahmm]

@anylolone I also find it interesting that liberals have spent decades mocking patriotism, the military and anybody who wanted to stand up for U. S. interests yet when Ukraine gets invaded they're 100% for sending billions of dollars and weapons there to help Ukrainians be patriots. Proof that liberals want to destroy the U. S. and know the destructive ideas won't help Ukraine win a war.

[anylolone]

@hahahmm Basically.