Do you admire Liz Cheney for her courage to do the right thing in speaking out about the terrorist insurrection of January 6th?

[Anonymous]

Perhaps the greatest threat to democracy in history of America.

Yes

No

[Juxtapose]

She was deliberately chose because she's anti-Trump but whatever dude xD You know the feds set that whole thing up and that the police let those protesters into the building freely right?

Not only that, but in that ridiculous hearing they are fucking misquoting YouTubers such as Tim Pool and saying he is radically right-wing.

"Terrorist attack" gtfo out of here with that bullshit! You should be ashamed of yourself for swallowing this claptrap propaganda!

[goaded]

Tim Pool worked out years ago that the money is in having some semblance of being a leftist (or actually being black or a woman) and agreeing with the assholes who are against everything you used to stand for.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded hard disagree.

[Juxtapose]

He's like Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand.

[goaded]

Yes, exactly like them.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded I love those guys!

What do you think of Glenn Greenwald?

[goaded]

Same. I used to like him when he was writing http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/, what, 15 years ago?

"Glenn Greenwald’s decision to resign from The Intercept stems from a fundamental disagreement over the role of editors in the production of journalism and the nature of censorship. Glenn demands the absolute right to determine what he will publish. He believes that anyone who disagrees with him is corrupt, and anyone who presumes to edit his words is a censor. Thus, the preposterous charge that The Intercept’s editors and reporters, with the lone, noble exception of Glenn Greenwald, have betrayed our mission to engage in fearless investigative journalism because we have been seduced by the lure of a Joe Biden presidency. A brief glance at the stories The Intercept has published on Biden will suffice to refute those claims."
theintercept.com/.../

[Juxtapose]

@goaded he should absolutely publish whatever he wants to publish on his own. He doesn't need editors or the like.

[Billlewis]

Chenehesd! And that phony vaudeville impostor from Illinois, Adam Kinzinger... lol. What the pointy headed wonks will never understand is that a Liz Cheney denouncing Trump doesn't move anyone a fraction of an inch, because it's people exactly like her that fueled his rise to power to begin with.

[abc3643]

Absolutely, Liz should make her father and the real Republicans happy.
She's got bigger balls than any Republican in the Senate.

[Screenwriter]

Is it courage or just common sense? And sounds like she's no sycophant to the big orange one... So, if she has no loyalty to him, I don't think it took courage. Just 2 + 2.

[exitseven]

No, she is a spiteful, vindictive woman. Trump had pushed her to the back of the bus and she is looking for revenge. She will soon be voted out of office and probably gets a job on CNBC.

[Asker]

CNBC? You mean the business network? I don’t know what you think is on CNBC but it’s not left talking points.

[exitseven]

I meant MSNBC the leftist fake news channel.

[DCooper]

Same difference

[RolandCuthbert]

I mean, she is okay. But it isn't like we ask for the Republican to do much.

Upholding the Constitution, shouldn't be some huge lift.

[goaded]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/4R1Nu23nx2o

Respect, for her standing up for rule of law and democracy.

[jshm2]

Dick Cheney and any Cheney should be brought up for crimes. That clan is not innocent of anything.

[EnglishEuropean]

Ezekiel 18:20
New International Version
20 "The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them."

[BeMuse]

She is a traitor, and will face a traitor's fate.

[DCooper]

Miss Piggy will be lucky if she isn't greeted back to Wyoming with a good old fashioned tar and feathering.

[BeMuse]

@DCooper More likely a failed Bay of Pigs invasion that makes landfall a bit far to the east.

[BeMuse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfoAX-g7EmQ

[Still-alive]

It's good work but my compliments to her end there. she's the daughter to a war criminal

[Still-alive]

www.latimes.com/.../...arriage-20131118-story.html

One major knock against her is that she pretty much sold out her lesbian sister to gain her US Senate seat

[Still-alive]

She's voted with Trump over 90% of her time in office projects.fivethirtyeight.com/.../

[EnglishEuropean]

I think Liz Cheney is the only person of integrity in the Republican Party.

[Chazmatazz269]

Ell oh ell! Literally none of this is true.

[goaded]

You are very confusing. Sometimes you seem rational, then you say something like this.

Have you watched or read transcripts of any of the hearings?

[Chazmatazz269]

Thank you! I should be confusing because i don’t play the games other people are playing. This response is no less rational, i assure you.
I have watched some of the hearings, but not all and i haven’t read any transcripts. However i don’t need to in order to know that this post was written strictly with bias. Cheney isn’t brave; she’s just doing her job. Bravery requires great risk, acknowledging that risk, and accepting the risks of certain behaviors. Cheney is risking nothing. Also, suggesting the events of January 6th is the greatest threat to democracy in the history of the US is pure hyperbole at best. Anyone who says this or believes it is grossly undereducated about US history.

Did you look up that book i recommended?

[goaded]

She's willing to lose her position in Congress, that's brave. What book?

[Chazmatazz269]

Okay. How is it that you perceive a risk to her position in Congress?

“Being Wrong” by Kathryn Schultz

[goaded]

I know what being wrong is. The fact that Trump decided in December, if not weeks before, not to allow an election to peacefully remove him from office shows that the investigation is right. You should try watching the hearings.

[Chazmatazz269]

You’re changing the point again. You didn’t justify your belief that Cheney’s position in Congress is at risk. I disagree. We’ve caught congress members breaking the law, and they lost nothing. We’ve exposed others for behaving contrary to their words and apparent expectations, and they went nowhere. Even if she were the subject of the hearings, she wouldn’t be in any danger. There’s literally no risk to her position.
I’ve seen enough of the hearings to know that they’re nonsense.
You can feel free to ignore my posts, comments and replies though. Your bias is overwhelming and if you’re not interested in improving on that, i have no need or desire to feed your irrational impulses.

[goaded]

No, I'm not. You just can't be bothered to check anything. "2022 Wyoming Primary Polls 2022: Liz Cheney now trails Hageman by 26 points.". For Republicans, telling the truth is worse than breaking the law, which is why Arizona Republican House Speaker Rusty Bowers is "no longer a Republican in good standing" after the state party's Executive Committee voted to censure him.

[Jamie05rhs]

I think she's a Karen.

[joeldalton]

9/11 x 10000

[goaded]

Establishment of a dictatorship in the US > 10000 * 9/11 or Pearl Harbour.

[joeldalton]

@goaded yes, a complete dictatorship. Like when people believe the electoral college should be eliminated because it doesn't take into account the popular vote, or when there are calls for the supreme court to be elimintated... oh wait, that was the democrats. Fuck off with your bullshit.

[goaded]

The EC is anti-democratic, the Senate ought be enough power for small states. Nobody's calling for the SCOTUS to be eliminated, just unstacked. Six justices with 200+ votes against their confirmations overturned 7 justices than had 36 against theirs.

[joeldalton]

@goaded Good, that it's anti-democratic. We're a representative republic. And yes, Maxie watters wanted it eliminated. "Unstacked" just means you don't like the answer you fuck heads got from them. Again, you democrat slimeballs can fuck right off.

[Jamie05rhs]

@goaded No; they're literally calling for it to BE stacked.
You're entitled to have an opinion on here, but you're not entitled to lie.

[goaded]

@Jamie05rhs Guess when the last time SCOTUS had 200 votes against their confirmation in the Senate. Guess which party made it that nominees for SCOTUS could be voted on without the assent of 60 senators. Guess which party already stacked SCOTUS.

(To save you time: Never, Republicans, Republicans.)

[Jamie05rhs]

@goaded
#1 Nobody gives a fuck what the votes were.
#2. The votes were partisan like that because your party is a bunch of extremists.

[Jamie05rhs]

And #3 Which party did Harry Reid belong to?

(I'll wait.)

[goaded]

@Jamie05rhs 1. People should. 2. Nope. 3. Democratic, but he explicitly didn't change the rules for SCOTUS; look it up. He changed the rules for normal judges because the Republicans were objecting to more nominees under Obama than in the history of the country.

[Jamie05rhs]

@goaded And you're objecting to more nominees under Trump.
You're full of shit, dude. Just sit down already.

[goaded]

@Jamie05rhs No argument, then? Just shout and hope the conversation will go away?

@Jamie05rhs 1. People should. 2. Nope. 3. Democratic, but he explicitly didn't change the rules for SCOTUS; look it up. He changed the rules for normal judges because the Republicans were objecting to more nominees under Obama than in the history of the country.

[Jamie05rhs]

@goaded Are you a broken record?

[goaded]

@Jamie05rhs No, but it seems you are. Or unable to make a reasoned argument. Republicans changed the rules so that they could push Federialist Society justices onto the SCOTUS.

[Jamie05rhs]

@goaded You ARE a broken record. Everything with you is Republicans, Republicans, Republicans. You don't even see your own hypocrisy. You're either blind or you're just in plain denial.

[goaded]

@Jamie05rhs Yeah, that's the funny thing about the truth, it exists independent of people's opinions. Like, say, there has never been a SCOTUS with 200 + votes against their "justices"' nominations.

[joeldalton]

@goaded so fucking what?

[goaded]

It's the reason the judicial branch of the government has 25% approval. But fascists don't want institutions to work or be popular, it gets in the way of raw power. That's why the "party of law an order" has spent the last five years denegrating the DoJ.

[joeldalton]

@goaded 25% is way better than congress and pedo Pete.

[goaded]

Wrong, as usual. Congress is unpopular because it's not getting anything done, and with the Republicans now blocking medical aid to veterans and laws defending same-sex marriage, that looks like it's going to continue.

[joeldalton]

@goaded lmao. Pelosi is a rotten piece of shit, that’s why.

[goaded]

So did Republicans block medical aid to veterans, or not?

[joeldalton]

@goaded actually she’s a demon in human skin.

[goaded]

So, how does the Republican vote to stop medical assitance to veterans make you feel? Proud? Not to mention the one against same-sex marriage.

[joeldalton]

@goaded We should drown her to see if she’s a witch.

[joeldalton]

@goaded but to stop your whining. The democrats added $400,000,000,000 in spending to that bill that was not related to healthcare for veterans. It’s their typical bullshit political tactics. And we don’t need a federal law to codify gay marriage. That is an issue for the states to decide.

[goaded]

You're lying about the money, of course. The bill to provide much-needed medical care to veterans would have easily passed if Republicans who voted to pass an almost identical bill earlier hadn't decided to change their vote.

Read the bill: www.congress.gov/.../text

Even Newsmax's Shaun Kraisman know Republicans are full of shit:
"But you can imagine — you can imagine — veterans that have served overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan, back in the Vietnam era, that have sacrificed their lives for us to be here today, are watching you and I have a conversation about certain pieces of this bill when all they want to do is get health care. Hey, stop all this back and forth, get us the health care that we need."

[goaded]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmacgVAtxSk

[joeldalton]

@goaded lmao. Now if I quoted newsmax you’d piss down your legs whining about the source. Fucking dope.

[goaded]

Yes, because Newsmax is far right wing, like you. When even they say you're full of shit, you're full of shit. Republicans decided not to pass a law that they'd previously supported, even though it would give veterans medical support. True or false?

[joeldalton]

@goaded lmao. You’re a silly little man.

[goaded]

So, true: Republicans decided not to pass a law that they'd previously supported, even though it would give veterans medical support.

But rather than accept reality, you'll lie and insult (and delete proof that you're wrong, given half a chance). That's what being a sad piece of shit is.

[joeldalton]

@goaded
twitter.com/codeofvets/status/1553120939428265984

[goaded]

So? They're lying. It has that much spending total. Show me what is unrelated to veterans' health care. Bear in mind 84 senators voted for the bill in June, and there hasn't been a word added since.

www.congress.gov/.../text

[joeldalton]

@goaded I’d trust an organization dedicated to helping veterans than some douchebag liberal on the internet.

[goaded]

You don't have to trust me, you just have to read the legislation. And explain what changed for 29 Republican senators to change their minds about supporting it.

The cost of the bill was known in June, when 84 senators voted for it, and it never changed between then and now, when just 55 did.