Should we be celebrating the death of Mikhail Gorbachev?

[Stoner710]

There are a few people in this world that we can honestly say we glad they are dead and there’s a few people still alive that we will be able to celebrate their desk because they’re such horrible people. People like pol pot Moa Zedong Hitler Stalin Lenin Tito Joe Biden Xing Jing Ping Putin Maduro Alexander Poroshenko Kim Jong-un etc these are all people who we can celebrate there death the world is and will be a better place when these people are dead. Either they wrecked their entire economy murdered millions or allowed millions to be enslaved these are all people we should be happy they are dead or wish they were dead because the world will be better off without them

[NamerOfStars]

Celebrating the death of the guy who brought down the Soviet Union? Who took apart the Evil Empire? Maybe one person in a million could've done what he did without causing World War 3; he did it and didn't even cause a CIVIL war. What POSSIBLE reason could there be to be HAPPY he's dead? That Russia went from being the core of a superpower to a backwater? Not only was that pretty much inevitable, he WASN'T IN CHARGE OF RUSSIA AT THE TIME- that was Yeltsin (who ALSO should be celebrated, as if the coup had gone against him instead of Gorby, the War would probably still be going on). Because he was an earnest believer in Communism? Another authoritarian realpolitiker would've just lengthened the war, and never had the courage to make the changes necessary to take it down.

You shouldn't be "celebrating" anyone's death, but least of all one who saved you and your parents from being reduced to a pile of irradiated dust. Would you celebrate the deaths of Vasily Arkhipov? Stanislav Petrov? What they did ONCE, Gorbachev did PERMANENTLY.

[maximumpower]

Celebrating the death of anyone is bullshit.
Given the situation he was in, he was a hell of a guy in his day and age.
If you weren't around then, recommend you do some reading and get educated.

[Stoner710]

I’ve done tons of reading on the Soviet Union, Read the gulag archipelago

[maximumpower]

GA doesn't equate to "tons of reading" and had nothing to do with Gorbachev.
I meant a REAL education.

[Minahh]

Well he received the Nobel Prize for Peace plus he helped to end the Cold war and introduced new political and economic freedoms. Comparing him to figures you mentioned is totally off.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

He is olso responsable for many crimes and for keeping the soviet sisten for yares and for other actions that they are not share in the West.
Olso the Cerboal accident happen because of his sistem.

[Stoner710]

@Alexandrubaschet08 not to mention he gained promise in the 1960s the high of the murders of the Soviet Union a lot of new soviet leaders like to copy Stalin

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Any death of a former soviet activist, should be celebrated.
As an East European i have nothing to own to this soviet communist.

[exitseven]

he was not as bad as Putin. Not as bad as Biden eithjer.

[TonightYouu]

Yes and no these new age communist are insane

[Stoner710]

Both do and old age communist are insane just saying

[TonightYouu]

Yeah but the older ones had actual goals and accomplishments

[TonightYouu]

Not that they were positive I’m just saying they had more faith in communism and I can respect that they stood by their beliefs despite its many flaws

[Stoner710]

That’s true a minute ultimately the final form of communism and especially when you read the comments manifesto like I have is that ultimately there is no government. Everyone works as a hive mind collective much like what do you see in the ants society in the sword in the stone read the ones in future King by T. H white. In a sense the new Martinrn day “communist “or more social is the USSR communist China aka socialist China Venezuela, and North Korea they’re all socialist not communist. The Joe Biden administration actually looks more like a fascist dictator shit than anything else

[Alexandrubaschet08]

People never belive in communism. Lenin fake the election in 1917-1918 afther his revolution.
The communist party from Russia afther the revolution whas the second moust popular one afther the socialist, who had diferent ideas for the country.
Later one USSR forces all the nations to accept communist by blackmail, force or any kinde of suport
Forces and blackmail in East Europ
Suport in China and N. Korea, Cuba and some Africans countrys

[Stoner710]

@Alexandrubaschet08 exactly socialism is the most evil ideology out there

[TonightYouu]

Agreed it creates too much room for laziness and slower economic growth we have to work that’s just life if people stop working we die

[Alexandrubaschet08]

is a HUGE diference between communism and socialis.
Socialism can be good.
But communism is evil.
The socialist party won the election in Russia in 1918 fair and whit no doub, but Lenin and his communist party fake the election.
Communism mean that evrething that is your is mine and what is mine is your.
Socialism mean that the governament will try to help thous who are in need and can't handle theyr social situation.
SOCIALISM is NOT EVIL
COMMUNISM is EVIL

[TonightYouu]

@Alexandrubaschet08 socialism is ineffective

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Tell that to the nordic nations from Europ who had one of the best education sistem, helt siste, security and justice sistem BECAUSE of Socialism

[TonightYouu]

@Alexandrubaschet08 because they tax the crap out of them the Nordic model has its pros but the growing immigration will eventually tear apart the welfare state high taxes and government intervention plus low productivity stunts economic growth they have great health care because they have a spending limit

[Alexandrubaschet08]

the imigration doesn't afact them at all, it make them stronger, the nordic people barely live theyr home nation exept for holidays moust of them and they still need people to work, so imigrants become a huge solution.

[TonightYouu]

@Alexandrubaschet08 they can’t increase their living standards and most of their immigrants are refugees a slower economy means lower productivity businesses are less likely to hire the only benefit to socialism is income equality yes less people are in poverty but the sky isn’t the limit the limit is the sky

[Alexandrubaschet08]

nobady care to overpass the limit of a sistem.
If evrybody have money, food and a good house and life, that is the limit.
There are no bether condition then in to the nordic nations

[joeldalton]

I dont' get the animosity towards him. He helped end the cold war.

[Anonymous]

No, he was a decent guy for being a commy.