Is Trans a mental health issue, and what should be done?

[OddBeMe]

I mean, gender dysphoria does sound like a mental illness. But not one that needs to be fought. Treatment can be letting them be themselves.

Yes and let them live how they want

Yes, and treat them like psychotics

No, its just like gayness, just natural

I dont know

[Anonymous]

I’m not too sure.

For some of them transitioning works out great, they live happily. Good for them.

For others it destroys their lives. There are quite a few who have spoken about how they deeply regret transitioning, many of them become suicidal.

Something like 40% of transgender people commit suicide post-op. Some say that it’s because of the way they’re treated and discriminated against, but from listening to many of those who want to destransition or who regret it, they had other mental issues which they thought would be solved by transitioning, but weren’t.

There are obviously people who want to support transgender people by normalising transitioning, but I think it’s kinda fucked up the way they try to silence and shut down detransitioners. Groups, videos and articles by detransitioners get taken down a lot by those people.

[AsaKyo]

Why is it that when *I* try to ask this question, it gets taken down? Yet when you ask it, no one does anything? That's bullshit lmao.

[suzzieQ]

Being trans is not a mental disorder but gender dysphoria is

[OddBeMe]

I would imagine there's a difference. And we just need more education on it. But bottom line, letting kids express themsevles is key.

[Sargentcaptain]

If we're not talking about kids, I'm fine with people doing what they want with their bodies. But ultimately I don't think that radically changing your body is the best way to deal with mental issues. Hopefully in the future, there will be a real cure for this sort of thing.

[msc545]

We do not cure things that aren't illnesses.

[Sargentcaptain]

Yeah, cause in those cases there isn't anything to cure.

[msc545]

you said, "Hopefully in the future, there will be a real cure for this sort of thing". What were you thinking might be cured in the future?

[Sargentcaptain]

Take a wild guess. Do you really think that thinking you're the opposite sex is normal?

[OddBeMe]

there's spots in the ocean that are absolute poison for us yet creatures live there. “Normal” is a childs description of the world.

[msc545]

It really is not an issue of normal or not normal.

[msc545]

@sargentcaptainSince you want to talk about mental illness, what exact mental illness do you think that the people you are alleging are "not normal" have? I am asking because I know a little bit about mental illnesses, and I am curious to see what you think.

[Sargentcaptain]

@OddBeMe

> there's spots in the ocean that are absolute poison for us yet creatures live there. “Normal” is a childs description of the world.

> childs description of the world.

Ironic. Stop pretending not to know what words mean.

In this context, 'normal' refers to healthy habits, thoughts and behaviors of members of species, in this case, the humans. If you just wanna say 'healthy', knock yourself out, but don't do the 9yo's games of pretending not to understand basic English and redefining words on a whim.

@msc545

> It really is not an issue of normal or not normal.

How so?

> Since you want to talk about mental illness, what exact mental illness do you think that the people you are alleging are "not normal" have?

By definitions of 'normal' and 'illness', all of them. Illnesses are not the norm.

[msc545]

That is self-referential. Just what exactly do you mean by "normal", and what mental illness do you think they have? Feel free to use the DSM V or the ICD 10 or both, and give me a diagnosis code, since you are apparently a mental illness expert.

[Sargentcaptain]

> That is self-referential.

Healthy is self referential?

> Just what exactly do you mean by "normal",

"A person without any mental illness is considered a normal patient, whereas a person with a mental disability or illness is viewed as abnormal."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normality_(behavior)

> and what mental illness do you think they have?

None.

[Juxtapose]

Well obviously they aren't doing society any favors so it behooves us to recognize that these people are mentally ill and do something about it.

Is somebody thought they were a giraffe, the solution isn't to make them look like a giraffe.

[OddBeMe]

Your childish understanding of gender dysphoria and chromosomes disappoints me. there's scientific research and history of birthing docs just ad hoc acknowledging a baby’s gender.

[Juxtapose]

"Gender" is bullshit from John Money and Alfred Kinsey who are both child molesters.

[Juxtapose]

Only biological sex matters.

[OddBeMe]

Who decides a person’s biological sex?

[Juxtapose]

Not "who" but "what." Generally, chromosome and genitals. You know how to tell a male from a female right?

[OddBeMe]

Actually no. For a majority of people who later have trans issues they were “assigned” a gender at birth rather randomly.

[Juxtapose]

That's John Money and Alfred Kinsey nonsense. Both are pedophiles who did sexual experiments on kids, some died.

[pers0n]

And I think my explanation on why sex and gender are synonymous proves it to be literally so. SInce many languages say gender organs which have the same prefix "gen" even in English, genitals, and write gender on passports: "gender"/(English translation) "sex". That gender, a masculine-feminine polarity, is as measurable as temperature, since you always always plug a plug into a socket and not the other way around.
Look how fucking fragile somebody is, wasn't @guy__ opinion auto selected most helpful on here? Either way it is now gone. But visible in the backup https://archive.ph/5JABF
You know that since those fragile sick fucks are the ones trying to tear your tongue out, you must be exposing some real shit. Is it that I absolutely proved that the pagan tranny worshippers admit to have tranny shit as their tradition? And that this one commie gagger keeps reporting me for offensive whenever I post the baphomet labeled "do what thou wilt" with the Thelma labeled as androgyny? It's worse than childish. It's literally all about androgyny, and if you're not happy maybe you should change you pfp, @ag@p3... as you can't change the meaning of the symbol you're using.

[jshm2]

Yes. It's just daft people pretending to be something they are not.

I mean, some identify as an apache attack helicopter. But the psychologists don't seem ready to take the money to diagnose it yet.

[Berethor]

Treat them like psychotics, letting them be themselves? they want to cut their body, it messed up.

[OddBeMe]

What affect would it have on you? People pierce and tattoo themselves already…

[Berethor]

Hiding an penis is nowhere near as bad as hiding an piercing or tattoo.

[OddBeMe]

So thats opinion. Is your only objection just “eww!”?

[Guardian45]

Speaking as a fellow neurodivergent, let people be themselves. Either help us, if we ask, or get out of the way.

[Anonymous]

If you (not talking about you, asker) be trans, fine. Just don't make a big deal out of it. You don't deserve special treatment, your are not better or worse than everyone else.

[OddBeMe]

What communities do deserve special treatment in your eyes?

[Sevenpointfive]

it's kind of like being gay but not as bad. both are mental illness'

[OddBeMe]

So gay penguins have mental illness?

[Sevenpointfive]

yep. animals can have mental illness unfortunately

[OddBeMe]

i guess "illness" is defined by doctors. But you can use it how ever you feel.

[joeldalton]

Do you advise anorexics should just be who they are?

[CaptainSmartass]

Well, no. They just need feeding. Take them out for a curry. That'll cure them...

[OddBeMe]

Like depressives the first step is acknowledging. Self hate is certainly not the answer.

[joeldalton]

That’s not what I asked. Do you tell anorexics “you’re right, you’re fat. If you eat less you’ll be skinny”

[SmokinAces2000]

Let them live as they want, literally has zero affect on my day to day

[Anonymous]

It's definitely a mental health issue. The problem in society today is that woke culture wants the normal majority to conform to the needs of the mentally ill minority.

[OddBeMe]

What are the affects on your life from trans people?

[Opinion Owner]

Are you trans?

[OddBeMe]

No. Why?

[msc545]

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and a very serious one since untreated it often ends in suicide.

[msc545]

Treatment in fact does consist of letting them be what they feel they are.

[CaptainSmartass]

Really? No-one's ever going to top themselves just because they didn't get a sex change.

[msc545]

@CaptainSmartass what makes you think that is true?

[CaptainSmartass]

@msc45 Because it's not the rational course of action, and these people claim to be rational.

Also, many transsexuals have actually coped with being in the so-called 'wrong' body for years by the time they demand a sex change. It's attention-seeking behaviour.

[msc545]

@CaptainSmartass I see. How many of them have you treated?

[OddBeMe]

@CaptainSmartass why does it matter what their reasons are? You guys are so onbessed with controlling people’s bodies.

[msc545]

That would be the asshole responding up there, not me.

[CaptainSmartass]

@OddBeMe So are the transsexual privilege brigade. They're taking vulnerable people, many of whom are autistic, and telling them that they're obviously transsexual and to have a sex change.

And I read this in a paper. They interviewed various experts who work with transsexuals.

[msc545]

@CaptainSmartass What paper?

[msc545]

Also, who is "they" ?

[CaptainSmartass]

@msc545 It was the Daily Mail.

[msc545]

@CaptainSmartass Give me a link to that Daily Mail article, please.

[CaptainSmartass]

@msc545 It was a few years ago and their website's tricky to search. Anyhoo, let's just agree to disagree on this.

[msc545]

@CaptainSmartass fair enough. Thanks.

[CaptainSmartass]

Yeah, it is. We should stick them in the loony bin.

Simples...

[OddBeMe]

Same as trumpite cultists.

[CaptainSmartass]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Anonymous]

To me, this treatment is like convincing a schizophrenic that the voices they hear are from God and that they should do what they say.

[OddBeMe]

What trans people demanding you do?

[Opinion Owner]

Sterilize them, chop off body parts they think they don't need and shove hormones in them that fuck with their body, especially if they are children.

[OddBeMe]

Again, what are they demanding of you? How are they being cumbersome on your life?

My friends get piercings and tats and i couldnt care less.

[Opinion Owner]

It'd obvious you didn't read my last comment, this is far worse than tattoos and piercings. We are talking about ending a bloodline and screwing over bodily functions because they think they are in the wrong body. They also want us to ignore reality so that we can play along with and enable their delusions.

I am also worried that my kid could fall for this cult that might tell them they are trans and didn't know it yet and ruin their lives before it could even start.

Gender dysphoria exists but is never should have been normalized.

[OddBeMe]

So…
1) Again…youre not telling me how this affects your life at all. Save more making you go “eww!”
2) you think your kid could be talked into being trans? Seriously?
3) wtf you mean by bloodline?

[Opinion Owner]

1. You just answered the question on your second question.
2. Yes. We have people who have detransistioned saying that they were told at a young age that it would solve their problems and it didn't or it made it worse.
3. By going through the surgeries and sterilizing themselves, they are removing themselves from the gene pool before they could ever pass it on.

[OddBeMe]

no dummy, surgery doesn't take away your DNA or bloodline.

And no again, a kid without trans feelings couldn't be talked into it. That's ridiculous.

[Opinion Owner]

I didn't say it was going to take away their DNA. I'm saying that the person in question will be sterilized, meaning they will be unable to reproduce. The family line will end right at that person.

We are talking about children. A demographic that can just as easily believe that a fatass can deliver presents around the world in 24 hours by shoving himself down everyone's chimneys, that a massive bunny comes and leaves behind hard boiled eggs and that a fairy comes to change a lost tooth into money. Do you seriously believe that they won't be talked into believing that?

[Anonymous]

Good way to bring out g@g's homophobes.

[OddBeMe]

This is how I masturbate. Reddit abandoned me, so cut me a break :)

[msc545]

LOL!

[jimmy2]

It's risky behavior in my pass job a whole unit of the. Them

[LimitedBenefits101]

Yes, and treat them like psychotics

[OddBeMe]

Because they are psychotic? Cuz my opinion on gun nuts is theyre psychotic.