Do you agree with Joe Biden that "our economy is strong as hell"?

[Cubus]

[Anonymous]

Biden doesn't know where he is, most of the time. The man had dementia. That is obvious. Someone at the White House has the job of changing his adult diapers and putting him to bed. He is barely able to read a teleprompter. Occasionally, he will slip up and say crazy things like this, but his handlers will quickly shut that down. Nobody knows who is actually in charge. It sure isn't Kamala. She is almost too stupid to breathe air. Watch the video of Biden getting pushed around by someone in a bunny costume at the Easter egg hunt. That was funny and pathetic at the same time.

[Lucy68]

Joe Biden aka the man that raise gas prices, probably is about to put us on WWIII, reason there's so much inflation, another reason some countries laugh at us. By 2024 I'm voting for either Trump or DeSantis

[Cubus]

How do you think he would put you on WWIII?

[RangerBlue22]

@Cubus it’s how he’s talking and threatening Putin yet won’t exactly say what the USA will do if Putin decides to use tactical nukes. He’s purposely being vague and it’s NOT how you communicate against an aggressive adversary.

[Cubus]

@RangerBlue22 So how do you communicate with an aggeesive adversary? Macron tried to appease Putin for a few years and it didn't work.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@RangerBlue22 word salad

[BeMuse]

The fentanyl economy is booming... Joe has a 10% share in a Chinese chemical company that makes the ingredients for fentanyl that are then sent to Mexico and smuggled across the border he opened up by mules. I'm sure his drug game is booming at the expense of Black people's lives...

https://files.catbox.moe/twnaqv.mp4

[BeMuse]

His criminal gang's economy is not the same as your economy.

[BeMuse]

www.dea.gov/.../dea-warns-brightly-colored-fentanyl-used-target-young-americans

[BeMuse]

And they voted for him...

[OlderAndWiser]

Loss of contact with reality!

[OlderAndWiser]

Thanks for MHO!

[Cubus]

You're welcome

[Anonymous]

Morons like him becoming presidents and making such statements.

Let's do some fact checking shall we?

Here's the graph of the purchasing power of $1 over the timeline since 1913.

By 1913 $1 could buy 30 chocolate bars from Hershey
By 1933 $1 could buy 10 beer bottles
By 1953 $1 could buy 10 pretzels
By 1971 $1 could buy 17 oranges
By 1997 $1 could buy 4 grapefruits (or oranges if you will)
Today $1 can buy 1 tiny Starbucks coffee perhaps

Here is the source: https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/purchasing-power-of-the-u-s-dollar-over-time/

While it's not entirely wrong, that the USA (and parts of Europe) are wealthy countries with well established and functioning infrastructure and many things just work, in economical sense they are in the middle of a downfall.

There's a reason most known gangster rappers show off their Money, Mansions, Ferrari's, Jets and Gold Diggers in their music videos in America and not in Nigeria or Russia.

[MuddyMole]

No, obviously it's fucked.
However, the quickest way to fix the economy is to convince everyone that it's not broken. That way they go out and spend money, which keeps other people in their jobs, allowing them to go out and spend money as well, and so on - whereas going on about inflation and how expensive it will be to heat your house this winter etc, makes people afraid to spend money, having the opposite effect.
It's what FDR meant in his inaugural speech, when he said "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself".
In fact, it's probably the only way to fix the economy without heavy public spending (like FDR's "New Deal"), taxing the rich / corporations, or nationalising the energy industry - and you can imagine what conservatives would say about those (I'm sure the word "communism" would come up).

[normalice]

Yeah. The track has been laid to get it moving with purpose. We just have to deal with the lingering inertia of the global pandemic, which shouldn't be too much longer. Unless of course republicans take the house - they will sabotage the recovery on purpose just to create 2024 campaign material, as they have already done thus far for 2022 campaign material..

[Cubus]

So why they didn't deal with it for the last 2 years?

[normalice]

They have delt with it. It just takes a while to get moving. Indeed it could be argued that that's the way anything done cautiously should begin.

[Cubus]

Then why do some other countries already dealt with this? :)

[normalice]

Smaller countries mean smaller economy.😁

[Cubus]

Smaller countries means there's less to mess up

[normalice]

That too. Inertia is proportional to mass, after all.

[Cubus]

Maybe it wouldn't be that bad if Biden opened that damn pipeline in Alaska

[normalice]

It would. Republicans are in full campaign mode and so are blaming absolutely everything on Biden, but anyone who actually wants to fix the problem instead of profit off the spectacle should just ignore republicans until they offer any legitimate solutions.

[Cubus]

So let's wait for Republicans taking the hHouse, so they could start offering solutions.

[normalice]

They won't offer solutions. They could do that right now but won't. Because they have none. They want to screw the economy up further because it just means more money for them.

[Cubus]

If you say Republicans "could do that right now" so why Democrats couldn't? :)

[normalice]

Because it can't be done. That's what I'm saying. The groundwork has been done. The economy will recover. It just takes time. However, if republicans take power they will sabotage that recovery for a 2024 campaign message.

[Cubus]

I see you contradicts yourself already. Ok

[normalice]

What are you imagining is the contradiction?

[normalice]

Oh wait I think I see where you might be confused. Democrats have put in place a solution that will work >over time.< But there is no >instant< solution. If there was one republicans are free to propose it. But there isn't. Instead republicans will campaign on complaining about the problem, offering no additional solutions, attempt to sabotage those long term solutions democrats put in place if they get power, and what they can't sabotage they will claim credit for despite opposing it every step of the way.

[goaded]

Not to mention taking credit for things they voted against. 25c reduction in gas prices (in Florida, if not elsewhere)? Republicans voted against it. Hurricane relief? Florida Republicans voted against it.

[Cubus]

@goaded They voted against because the bill incleded many spendings unrelated to huragan.

[goaded]

They still expected to get the money.

[normalice]

Thats not a good reason to vote against it, though, as funding such things is their entire job. And then of course they expect credit for it when than money goes to their districts 😅

[TroyDT2]

Mr. Biden and the Democrats have total control of the House and Senate, and even with the Senate filibuster are able, through budget reconciliation, to pass whatever they want economically.

In other words, the Republicans, as much as they might want to, simply do not have the capability of sabotaging the economy.

[goaded]

@TroyDT2 They can only pass what the most right wing Democratic senators will allow. You must know that.

[Cubus]

@goaded Nowadays you have few Clinton-like Democrats. Most of them gone gone to the left since then. Manchin is the sole exception.

[Cubus]

@goaded Besides, on the other side you also have senators that would help passing it, like Collins or Murkowski.

[goaded]

You know not a single Republican senator will vote for anything that looks like a win for Democrats. How often have Collins or Murkowski voted with Democrats and the two Independents? How often has anything major passed with 46 Democrats, two Independents, and a couple of Republicans?

[Cubus]

@goaded www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/117-2022/s64

[Cubus]

@goaded www.senate.gov/.../vote_117_2_00348.htm#position

And a few more.

[goaded]

They weren't alone, were they? Many other Republicans voted for both of those (the must-pass federal budget and someone's nomination to a directorship). Your point was that those two radical left-wing Republican senators, Collins and Murkowski, would make up for Sinema and Manchin. That's never happened.

[Cubus]

@goaded I said "like Collins and Murkwoski". I never said "only them".

Read what I send next time. Just you imagined yourself that I said so :)

[goaded]

Well, I said: "They can only pass what the most right wing Democratic senators will allow. You must know that."

You responded: "@goaded Nowadays you have few Clinton-like Democrats. Most of them gone gone to the left since then. Manchin is the sole exception."

"@goaded Besides, on the other side you also have senators that would help passing it, like Collins or Murkowski."

Except they don't help passing things that Manchin and Sinema refuse to vote for, do they? Things like voting rights, or Build Back Better (which never even got to a vote, because it was obvious there wouldn't be a single Republican vote for it, even though they're crowing about the money the eventual legislation, the Inflation Reduction Act they didn't vote for, brought into their states). Like I said, "what the most right wing Democratic senators will allow", and no sign of Republicans making up for their no votes.

[Cubus]

@goaded Sinema is a liberal. I don't know any of her position that is conservative.

[normalice]

@Trodt2 of course they can. Remember how Trump wanted to order the full pull out from Afghanistan in late January just to create a huge mess for Biden? Remember how the Trump administration denied all handover for months just to create a huge mess for biden? Remember how Trump staged a coup and continued to spout divisive rhetoric to this day just to create a huge mess for biden? Republicans are lock step with all of this. Both of the bills democrats have passed through have been pretty amazing. But republicans are pushing messages that they are somehow bad just to create a huge mess for Biden. Turning public support against good work, just because republicans want that money for themselves, is sabotage.

[TroyDT2]

@goaded Does not change the fact that the Democrats can, and have, passed economic legislation without Republican support, which proves the point.

[TroyDT2]

Staged a coup? Oh, you are one of those. Rational discourse is not possible with people who hold to absurdities like that,

[goaded]

@TroyDT2 The Democrats have 48 senators, any one Democratic or Independent senator can scupper or water down any bill that the party as a whole wants. And that's for the few things that can be done under reconciliation.

And, yes, Trump absolutely did stage a coup. We now know that it was planned before the election, the lies had been rehearsed, there was fraud, forgery, and a violent armed mob.

Rational discourse is not possible with people who ignore the facts.

"The Select Committee got this pre-prepared statement from the National Archives. As you can see, the draft statement, which was sent on October 31st, declares, "we had an election today - and I won." And the Fitton memo specifically indicates a plan that only the votes counted by the Election Day deadline, and there is no Election Day deadline, would matter."

"And what Trump's going to do is just declare victory, right? He's gonna declare victory, but that doesn't mean he's the winner, he's just gonna say he's a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail, and so they're going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump's going to take advantage of it. That's our strategy.

He's gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it's going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10:00 or 11:00 at night, it's going to be even crazier, you know, because he's gonna sit right there and say they stole it."

[normalice]

Oh yes I'm one of those who acknowledge that recent history happened. I understand why the far right fake news would be so eager to brainwashed its simps into believing it either didn't happen or wasn't relevant, though. No good reason, of course..

[goaded]

@TroyDT2 Here's what a judge wrote today about emails between Trump and one of his lawyers (tl;dr: these four emails are evidence of Trump committing a crime):

"There are four documents, however, in which Dr. Eastman and other attorneys suggest that—irrespective of the merits—the primary goal of filing is to delay or otherwise disrupt the January 6 vote. In one email, for example, President Trump’s attorneys state that
“[m]erely having this case pending in the Supreme Court, not ruled on, might be enough to delay consideration of Georgia.” This email, read in context with other documents in this review, make clear that President Trump filed certain lawsuits not to obtain legal relief, but to disrupt or delay the January 6 congressional proceedings through the courts. The Court finds that these four documents are sufficiently related to and in furtherance of the obstruction crime. Accordingly, the crime-fraud exception applies, and the Court ORDERS Dr. Eastman to disclose the four documents."

[D_Bone_Steak]

My money buys approximately 40% less food and gas. I know that it's going to get really so much worse after November 8th. He can call the economy whatever... he's full of shit.

For every fucker that voted for Biden... I want to clip one of your nipples off with my toenail clippers.

[Chazmatazz269]

Economics is easy!
A+B+C=D, where:
A= I receive the same salary as Biden
B= I have the same expenses as Biden
C= I’m also completely oblivious to what
the average working class citizen is
experiencing
D= I agree that the economy is “strong as
hell”
ELL OH ELL!!!

[jshm2]

Yes.

The US is still able to pay off the interest on it's loans, and manage it's multi trillion dollar debts.

That money is coming from the economy. Sure, the US is only going to manage to pay it's bills for a short while, but that isn't Biden's job to look after.

[John_Doesnt]

Current inflation is the result of corporate greed. Gas prices are the result of the war in Ukraine and I fully support Biden on putting blockades in place to stop buying oil from Russia.

As for the job market, we have tons of job openings and unemployment is way down. People have jobs, but many big companies are taking advantage of supply shortages to price gouge people. This is basically proof that capitalism is flawed and Marx was correct.

[TrueConfection]

He said that with a mouth full of ice cream and by the look of that supersize waffle cone, it was probably $20 plus the cost of Secret Service detail and inspections to obtain his dessert.

Biden is the new Marie Antoinette.

[exitseven]

let em eat ice cream.

[TrueConfection]

@exitseven exactly

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t matter. He is merely filling a position made for him. To remove the previous embarrassment. US would be in a much bigger mess had they four more years of that. All the big issues currently are just made to look like Bidens fault. Smokescreen. He’s not intelligent enough to have created them himself.

[goaded]

Better than Britain's. In 2016, it was 90% of Germany's, now it's 70%.

There's not enough attention paid to corporation profits; they're driving "inflation" in the name of inflation.

[goaded]

Speaking of which, apparently 54% of today's "inflation" in the US does straight into corporate profits, not costs.

[goaded]

*goes.

The economy grew at 2.6 percent in the third quarter -- the first increase in 2022 and a sharp turnaround after six months of contraction.

[lightbulb27]

hell is a good word for it. strong... yes but not for so long after election.

the problem is that it isn't economical...

more people are showing up at pantries for help, that will increase for some time.

[Adam1978]

I can't point to a single strong economy in the world today, but I can certainly point to multiple bad ones. But that is mostly because bad news are spread not good ones. Maybe Switzerland still stand strong? Never hear anything from that place.

[loveslongnails]

Not really, and I didn't believe it when Trump said it either, because it wasn't strong. It's only been strong if you're in the top 5% of wage earners and have a growing portfolio. Everyone else is still scraping by.

[LazerBean]

Will the red numbers on our stocks say no, but hey at least even though he was wrong he got out a coherent sentence.

[AviatorTom]

Yes, because in Hell there is no economy, just a dictatorship run by the Devil.

Which is exactly the economy that Biden wants.

[Sixgunsound]

If anybody who sincerely believes that would like to buy my stock portfolio at Trump era prices, reach out to me in the comments.

[TroyDT2]

Nope. 8%+ inflation eating away people's retirement and other savings is really, really bad, unless you're an out-of-touch politician with a lifetime pension

[GreatVallue]

How is he even the president? Or is he? Maybe Jill, is.

[Haha456]

our economy is as strong as biden's old limp dick

[A_Bell]

Well, hell is a pretty lousy place, so sure.

[HorggleThorp]

No, and I doubt he agrees either. He’s lying through his teeth.

[qwert1234]

From a 3rd world country point of view - US economy is super strong.

[Cubus]

I believe it's not that bad.

[DesiUwU]

I think it's currently the strongest in the world, yes

[Sargentcaptain]

Only thing he's right about here is the 'hell' part.

[Msputiton]

Is it a mess? Yes.

But is it on the verge of collapsing not even close

[goaded]

Until Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling.

[OddBeMe]

Yes and no. It’s strong as in it ain't gonna falter. But this recession will hurt lots of people. I didn’t watch the clip, but he sounds out of touch again. Surprising for a 70 yr old.

[RangerBlue22]

Biden’s 80.

[OddBeMe]

@RangerBlue22 even worse.

[AimeeKyle]

Uh, no. That is ridiculousness.

Own it and be honest. Lying proves we can trust nothing that comes out of his mouth.

[BoobMan]

Well, that's an interesting strategy Cotton--let's see how it works out for 'em!

[genericname85]

that guy is pissing on your legs and telling you it's raining...

[greenice27]

Inflation is high in the United States. That's why it's worse than last year.

[joeldalton]

I've lost a quarter of my retirement savings, but at least he has ice cream.

[888theGreat]

we are in a recession and probably already in a depression. I can tell you no one bidding on local auctions

[Anonymous]

Maybe stronger than him but that’s not saying much lol

[Surely]

If he is referring to the $hit smell that he has gotten the country into. YES it is!

[AngryCarl]

Wasn't this the same guy who said you had zero inflation?

[Anonymous]

He has to say that, he's in power now. How many times did he say that before he was elected?

[USLegionary]

Biden wouldn't lie.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Its easy to lie when you can't remember what the truth is.

[RangerBlue22]

You should of made this a poll.

[exitseven]

No, he was talking about China.

[tfan1]

(Laughing hysterically). Umm…No.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

yeah before he got in the office it was

[BLP11520]

Ha ha ha ha... really?

[Amelia_Amy]

i dont think so

[Anonymous]

No, I sure don't.

[Iron_Man]

No way

[Pterodon]

Nope

[ChefPapiChulo]

it is strong.