Should poverty be a type of child abuse?

[OddBeMe]

So hard to break that cycle being born into it.

Yes

No

Not sure

[Stoner710]

Your a straight dumbass on this one, and honestly (which your though an unintended to be racist). This goes right back to The eugenics movement of the 1920s and 1930s were Marjorie Sanger who was a big supporter of the eugenics movement who also set up Planned Parenthood in black communities so that they would kill her unborn offspring because supposedly white people are the superior race and if we can convince people of color to kill their children before they’re born they will be less people of color. They were poor in the 1917 because of slavery they were poor in the 1960s because of Jim Crow 2022 the poor because of democratic policy and it started with Lyndon B. Johnson.

[kylee2437]

Exactly! If people don’t even know why Planned Parenthood was planted in poverty areas in the first place, they shouldn’t even talk about this stuff!

[OddBeMe]

You guys need new conspiracy theories. That was one lady 100 years ago. PP appears to have nothing to do with that now. Like Mitsubishi making Japanese Kamakazi planes in ww2.

[Stoner710]

its not a conspiracy theory its a fact. Margaret Sanger set up Planned Parenthood in brownsville new york to reduce the population of blacks. she viewed blacks as inferior she was a Eugenicist which was an ideology picked up by the Nazis in the 1930s

[OddBeMe]

And IBM helped the Nazis kill Jews. Bayer made the zyklon gas. Ford made the Nazis autos. Same anger toward them?

[AngryCarl]

What do you mean? Parents should be punished for being poor?

[OddBeMe]

“Punished” for having kids when they know they can’t afford it. That seems like child abuse.

[AngryCarl]

Having kids is one of the few rights we still have.

[purplepoppy]

In the uk you are inspected when you have a baby but the standard is ridiculously low. Unless your house is a drug den or there's a tiger loose you get to keep your baby. Then you get child support and if need be jump up the waiting list for cheap social/council housing. For a lot of poor people having a kid is a way of bringing in extra cash.

Sadly sensible parents who get an education and career first often only have one or no kids while these people churn out huge families.

[OddBeMe]

The maddening math of poor vs educated. They’re out populating us but we still have all the money.

[kylee2437]

So you are basically saying that people on poverty should be controlled regarding having kids? You realize that’s why planned parenthood was implanted into poverty communities in the first place, right?

[kylee2437]

People in **

[OddBeMe]

Not sure of the origins of PP. just offering a thought. Having a child in poverty seems more abusive than spankings.

[kylee2437]

@OddBeMe there’s a reason why they are planted in poverty areas only. Secondly, that’s kind of not the best way to think because you are implying that kids in rich/ middle class families are abused. One of my closest friends is middle class and was abused as a kid. My mother was also abusive and I was considered a middle class family

[kylee2437]

Families aren’t abused*

[OddBeMe]

No not at all. I’m sure there is an average “abuse” profile that doesn’t factor class.

But I’m just asking if having a kid knowing you can’t afford it should be considered abuse.

[kylee2437]

@OddBeMe financial situations change everyday. A person in poverty can become rich in the next year. You can literally change your financial situation. I think it’s only abuse if the parent has an addiction that is holding them back from financially succeeding. My mother was abusive due to her addictions

[OddBeMe]

Actually not really. If you’re born poor you’re more than likely to remain poor. Im all for reducing it. That’s why im asking if we should curtail reproduction…

[kylee2437]

Yes because you fall into a cycle of situations and genes that can keep you poor, however if you are a hardworking person in poverty you can change that. Person I’m currently dating is in that exact situation, so once again it should only be considered abuse if there’s addictions that will keep you from ever becoming successful

[OddBeMe]

Ehh, that’s not what stats say. 90% of poor, stay poor.

[dustybiker]

Isn’t that getting into saying who should and shouldn’t have kids?

Heck if you wanted to bring some fetus-loving people in here to bash that is a way to do it.. *ducking out*

[OddBeMe]

Well, more like asking if there should be consequences for having a child knowing you can’t afford it.

[dustybiker]

That goes against the encouragement of making more white babies.

[Sevenpointfive]

if you can't support your child you don't deserve a child and there should be abortions so that women don't live off the government. wanting and having a child are two different scenarios that women don't get

[DubiousIntentions]

If it is then many millions of kids are being abused.

[Juxtapose]

How about actually helping the poor instead of criminalizing them?

[OddBeMe]

Absolutely agree.

[Juxtapose]

Sweet! 👍

[OddBeMe]

Still think we could do something about kids born in poverty. Literally born to live horrible lives.

[Juxtapose]

What would you do? Any solution I can think of would horribly violate people's rights.

[OddBeMe]

Well, yeah…that’s the catch 22.

[Juxtapose]

Then it's not really worth doing anything with that price tag now is it?

[OddBeMe]

Until the ideas get here, perhaps not.

[msc545]

Call it what you will, but if you do, what would be the response to it?