Why are black people so violent in the US?

[Swollerbear]

If you look at the data, they commit the most violent crime in the US by a monumental amount. Why would I subscribe to this idea that they are victims when they statistically commit the most murder? There's something seriously wrong with black culture in America.

[DevikaButts95]

Did you know in the U. S. that more mass murderers are white males than any other race? Roughly 75% of mass murderers are white, and I believe it was 14% that are black. I mean if you look at that alone white dudes are definitively more violent than black people, clearly, given the rampages mass murderers will go on. Of course this statistic falls apart once you take into account other context, because the population of white people in the U. S. is 77%, so no duh in a country where there is more white people more of the mass murderers are white, they roughly match the population statistics per race.

It's more likely that poor people are violent, and more poor people are black as opposed to your... not particularly well thought out and pretty much racist conclusion. Genuinely statistics like this don't tell the full story.

Did you know that murder rates go up as ice cream sales go up? It's not because ice cream drives people to murder, it's because ice cream is sold more in the summer, and guess what murder rates also go up in the summer. Another good example.

[DevikaButts95]

And yea seems I was pretty spot on with my guess. Based off 2019 statistics for violent crimes, About 4% of the population of white people commit violent crimes and 7% of the population of black people commit violent crimes, double the rate of white people. You know what else is double? Rate of poverty for black people versus white people, 18 or 19% for black people and 8.5% for white people.

[DevikaButts95]

Sorry I'm a little tired. I read the table wrong for that 4% and 7%, it's actually 4% of total arrests of white people were violent crime and 7% for black people. It's actually.08% of the population of white people and.32% of the population of black people.
The poverty rates are right.

[DevikaButts95]

More perspective adding. 41% of those in poverty are white, and 22% of those in poverty are black. But our population is again roughly 77% white and 14% black. You would expect the poverty rates to match our population

[Swollerbear]

There is absolutely a disparity relative to black population and poverty. You're saying that as a rationalization though. The black population is the least educated, yet you're insinuating that it's because of systemic oppression. Pull the stats from the DOJ and FBI. 13% of the population for 60% of violent crime in this country. How is it racist to notice these numbers and conclusively say that black people are factually more violent in the US? Education levels are related, but it's still a matter of fact.

[DevikaButts95]

Because its not a good conclusion. Same thing as saying murder rates go up with ice cream sales. Its true, its not the reason why murder rates go up. Also it was like 40% of violent crime, not 60%. And I'm generously rounding up because I don't remember and don't have the table in front of me.

[AmandaYVR]

• Lack of opportunity
• Racial discrimination on resumes
• Black males refusing to wear condoms results in unwanted pregnancies, unwanted children, and fatherless households, which exacerbates a cycle of hardship, lack of resources, education, parenting, and mentorship
• Racial profiling. Black males consume cannabis at rates well below white males, yet black males get arrested and imprisoned at [something like?] 6x the rate
• Blacks commit a lot of violent crime relative to other races within the U. S. because they're angry about the disparity in opportunities and fair and ethical treatment

... to name a few.

[Pterodon]

Typical liberal. It’s never the criminals fault is it

[Swollerbear]

Black males refusing to wear condoms results in unwanted pregnancies, unwanted children, and fatherless households, which exacerbates a cycle of hardship, lack of resources, education, parenting, and mentorship

This seems like the most likely. What about hip hop and gang culture? Promoting promiscuity and violence.

[Andres77]

Respectfully…
-Wrong.
-Illegal.
-Irresponsible and lack of fathers.
-When 1/3 of 13% of the population commits 50% of violent crimes…it’s not profiling. It’s bad judgment.
-I’m angry about a lot of things. I have no right nor excuse to hurt others. Period.
Be angry and break into my house…see what happens.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XVxhzOMAA-g

[joeldalton]

Lol, so by your last bullet point guys who rape are justified if they’re incels because they’re angry about the disparity in opportunities and fair and ethical treatment.

[CallmeTheKnight]

As a black man, who grew up in hood with a very poor family, I'm gonna have to correct you. 1. The lack of opportunity is false, Many let them slip by.
2. The refusal to wear condoms is with many people. It's that a majority of black women choose to make certain men fathers. That's not just a male issue, it's just as much on the women as well. We can all see that. Don't forget the misandry or bad beliefs pushed upon black women to continue to have bad attitudes about black men.
3. Racial profiling is not as big as people make it out to be. Maybe back in the days, but racists cops are almost like other racists... They don't want to be found out and there are a lot of black people on the police Force. If you get caught with weed where it's illegal, you're caught... Nothing you can really do about it unless you can fight it.
4. They commit the most amongst themselves than with other races. It all starts at home and what's pushed in their minds by peers. Most folks come from single mother homes... We have to start there.

[AmandaYVR]

None of what I said is a justification. I am not excusing criminals, whoever they are.
These are some key contributing factors; precursors to committing crime. For many, the system is rigged against them. It's understandable to be angry about that.

But they're immoral for abandoning their children. No matter what circumstances surround that, the child should not be collateral damage. Shirking this responsibility, which in no way can be attributed to system racism against them, is inexcusable. Yet culturally, this seems to be acceptable.

Exactly, Swollerbear.

[joeldalton]

So destitute white people in the Appalachians don’t have a system rigged against them?

[bean2k21]

Let me explain this to you as only a Southern gentleman can. When the Yankees tried to end slavery, we in the South pretended to 'surrender' to what wasn't even a war to begin with. The we shot Abe Lincoln in the head and put a man from North Carolina in the White House. Next, we passed a bunch of laws which, at the end of the day, basically made it illegal to be black, because the 13th amendment excludes criminals. Then, we put those criminals right back to work, if they weren't already hiding from the cops on the plantation. So, in a nutshell, if you're black you're a criminal -- it's just what the South had to do to keep slavery legal.

[jshm2]

Actually, if you properly look at the data, Blacks are no more violent than anyone else.

But Blacks get convicted and incarcerated more easily than others.

The US justice system is a shitty "pay to play" model. Where you need to be be able to "afford" your rights, and even then you need to be lucky to get good quality.

You are three times more likely to be killed by a White US cop, than terrorist or gang member. Remember that.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

The reason the statistics say that is because police more often patrol black communities than they do white communities, and with more eyes on people, they're going to get caught doing illegal things more often and then arrested. That's why there's that statistic difference.

[Pterodon]

It’s never the criminals fault?

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

@Pterodon I'm not saying they weren't caught in the act and guilty, but I'm saying if you watch someone enough to see if they're doing something wrong, you will find them doing so. Even if it means you don't look at other people in other groups doing the same things just out of that line of sight.

[Pterodon]

Nope honest people are honest

[Andres77]

Should they patrol white neighborhoods where crime is lower? Then they’d be racist cowards.
So they patrol where the crime IS. And they’re still racist something.
There’s no winning.

[CallmeTheKnight]

The lack of stability that most single mother homes have.
The lack of fathers and proper father figures all due to poor selection by the women.
The desire to make fast money being encouraged by criminals.
No discipline and men and women have no sort of control of their emotions.

[FunkyMonkee]

Partly because they always feel they're being shit on and, in some cases, I can see why. And, partly because they know whites are scared of them so, they take advantage of it. And partly because it's the way they're brought up. Only SOME of them are like that, though! I've known, and known of, quite a few that aren't like that at all!

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I seriously don't know. I can blame it on rap music but that isn't the cause because they are violent as hell in other black countries i. e. Haiti where rap music isn't even played or listened too.

I just think and guess the black gene in general is predisposition to be more animal like and off instinct instead of more intellectually inclined thus that causes them to be far more emotional and violent.

[RolandCuthbert]

Dude, what data are you looking at?

Try to find some facts before you talk out of your butt.

[Swollerbear]

DOJ and FBI statistics

[RolandCuthbert]

The DOJ doesn't have any stats on the commission of crime.

The FBI only collects arrest data from certain jurisdictions.

Stop talking out your butt.

[Dnice1]

I've met some incredible sweet black people that have hearts of gold. Just like any other person they might have not have been treated right and were abused or hurt. In other words they weren't given kindness and love it not enough of it.

[Cubus]

Black americans are much more likely to be raised without a father, than White Americans. Lack of fatherly figure to boys plays a role here (because those are mostly Black men commiting crimes and not Black women).

[SmokinAces2000]

And white people make up the majority of mass shootings and serial killings so why should I believe that black people are the most violent when I can be at a mall or movie theater or even a church and a white person could come and shoot it up.

[Berethor]

It like that in africa too, high testosterone and low intelligence is the reason for that.

[Shamalien]

Lots of reasons. There is a genetic component that no one will acknowledge, but it’s mainly because the dark shepherds destroyed their families

[Pterodon]

Big debate. I personally think it’s a breakdown of family values. Fatherless children

[KostasKouvalis]

They're raised with this notion that they need to be violent to be respected

[BarryLiverstone]

Because guys manifest aggression with physical action as opposed to girls on average

[Sasha0426]

Then explain all the school shootings.

[Swollerbear]

That doesn't come even near the stats for the US black population

[Curmudgeon]

Indeed, Let's! Because The Truth is that in proportion to their populations...
www.newsweek.com/we-have-normalized-mass-shootings-black-communities-its-got-stop-opinion-1721901

[Andres77]

Democrats with mental health issues. Almost 100%.

[joeldalton]

Clearly it’s because you’re a racist.

[Anonymous]

Lack of fatherhood in the household