Why do men blame women who don’t like feminism for the results of feminism?

[Anonymous]

Not to mention… it was men who enacted a lot of the processes for modern day feminism. But overall it’s very dumb logic. Just like the liberals blaming whites for slavery, incel men blame based women for feminism 🤔

[HighValue]

Even the women that CLAIM to be against feminism, they still do NOTHING to get laws changed to be fair to men. Create a petition to get laws proposed on the next ballot to end alimony, to have automatic 50/50 custody of kids, to have mandatory paternity/DNA tests at birth, to have the same jail sentences for women for the same crime as men get, etc. THEN you can say you are against feminism. Otherwise you are just benefitting from feminism and sexism against men while pretending to be against it.

It is like if a Black person claimed they weren't racist, but then they take free college money that is exclusive only to Black people, or get a job position due to race quotas. By accepting benefits of a sexist or racist law, it makes that person guilty of supporting it.

[Asker]

What do you do? What have you done? And what have i done to progress feminism? You sound like the BLM folks talking about, “You benifit from white privalage and aren’t anti racist so you're racist” lol the hypocrasy!

[HighValue]

Nobody can help you. You are determined to blame men for things that women do. It is obvious that you won't change that.

[HighValue]

Just by you stating "it's much for women now a days" proves that you are lying. Your opinions lost their value after such an obvious lie like that.

[Asker]

Wow you fell fast after I pointed out your flawed logic 🤣 LMAOOO

[MzAsh]

Alimony mostly helps women who left their careers to be stay at home moms. If you want alimony to end, you cannot expect your wife to not have her own income. No more stay at home wives. If you want 50/50 custody rights then you better be putting in NO less than 50% of child care. That means you men too are changing diapers, feeding their kids, helping with homework, taking care of them when she’s at work, taking them to do doctor, to school, to after school functions, to birthday parties, planning their own birthday parties, basically everything she’s doing. Women are doing the lions share of child care, but if you want 50% custody rights, that shouldn’t be a problem because now that she has to work full time too, a man can have plenty of time to raise his kids when she’s not there.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Because they were trying to get some pussy! I don't agree with that truth, nor men just passing the buck to the next generation. Women have countlessly < My word now. Taken feminism and capitalized upon what wouldn't have been a fair deal anyway. Real women don't a fuck about feminism or marches or any government checks! They go out and work.

[Asker]

Huh?

[Asker]

How would that give them Pussy. Also, women against feminism are generally more traditional and don’t want to be in an unfulfilled workforce

[CuriousMufuxka]

Ah, a history lesson lessened by first huh? and then a questioning of how feminism actually started.. With that I happen to work with quite a few traditional (I just say there women) workers that again read my OP.

[Asker]

They’re not traditionalists if their primary function isn’t homemaker

[CuriousMufuxka]

How does that have anything to do with men blaming women? You got an honest example, but wanna throw bullshit in the way. Just not good enough.

[Asker]

Huh? What?

[CuriousMufuxka]

Could you text a little louder? My E-ears aren't what they used to be. Darn liberals.

[Asker]

You’re a liberal?

[Asker]

Can’t say I’m suprised

[CuriousMufuxka]

What? Trump?

[Asker]

Aren’t you?

[CuriousMufuxka]

Are you? Wait.. I know who you are!

[Asker]

So you are a liberal

[CuriousMufuxka]

If you believe me to be :)

[Asker]

Sure. I mean if you're all about me living whatever is “my reality” then I have no doubts about how you are.

[CuriousMufuxka]

That doesn't make much sense, but I think you meant who. Anyway I'm doing just fine young asker :)

[Asker]

You sound like a liberal who says, “if your reality is you’re a male go ahead” lol

[CuriousMufuxka]

Fuck! You got me all figured out! The blame is on the man in which you still don't know my affiliation..

[Asker]

What about a man? Lol who said that. But ok Brandon

[CuriousMufuxka]

You did! I suspect you're an undercover liberal acting like a decent troll..

[Asker]

You are a liberal! Lol

[CuriousMufuxka]

I am a current football watcher! please don't blame me feminist!

[Asker]

You’re a feminist LMAO that’s why you’re so mad at the post XD

[CuriousMufuxka]

Whatever you say paris!

[Asker]

Who? And good luck being a democrat lol

[CuriousMufuxka]

Why would I? Paris13

[Asker]

Who? And go vote for Biden or something please leave 😂

[Asker]

@Paris13 I think this libtard wants you 😂

[CuriousMufuxka]

Aww you're finally conceding! My terms stands as you never speak the B word, vote as you choose, and go fuck yourself! Trump 2024!

[Asker]

What? 😂😂 dm her I’m not Paris! You fucking liberal ffs this whole post is bashing feminists wtf is wrong with you retard

[CuriousMufuxka]

Thanks for the MHO ;)

[Anonymous]

I think men are angry about today's feminism and it's hard to blame them for that. But even though it's not fair to blame all women, it easy to see why some might. We as women need to be doing more to fix the problems feminism has created and that kind of IS our responsibility.

[Asker]

Exactly. They’ll just push away people who agree with them because they ARE sexist

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not sure you got the most important part of what I said but ok.

[Asker]

Huh?

[MzAsh]

If you’re a woman, you’re likely enjoying benefits and privileges feminism afforded to you. In their eyes, that still makes you part of the problem.

[Asker]

Like what?

[MzAsh]

The right to work, the right to vote, the right to wear what you want, the right to have your own bank account, greater access to education, better access to healthcare, greater options in reproductive rights.

[Cubus]

Imagine how many females suffer from "reproductive rights".

[Asker]

@Cubus millions do every year unfortunately

[Berethor]

It called generalizing, and yea western men has allowed feminism to flourish, unlike islam.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/men-in-charge-of-women.aspx

[NewsReader]

No man blames normal, feminine women for modern feminism aka misandry. We blame feminists / misandrists for all the problems they caused in modern relationships between normal men and normal women.

[Asker]

I’m talking about incels and a lot of them do. If I say, “why do women still do most the domestic labor in relationships where they work the same amount?” Dudes will say, “You get what you deserve! There’s your feminism!!”
“I’d like a guy who pays for dates”
“You made it so he won’t with your feminism!!”
🙄🙄

[Anonymous]

We don't blame women who don't like feminism for the results of feminism, but we DO blame any woman who is not outspoken about their opposition to the harm being done by modern feminism. Men have no legitimate voice against feminism because we are just called incels. Only women can stop feminism from doing what it is doing today, and the vast majority of women are silent on the issue. And for that, they absolutely deserve criticism.

[Asker]

Any time I say anything dudes just say, “THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE”

[Opinion Owner]

Guys are generally kind of bitter toward women today. But it's not fair to blame you for it if you don't support modern feminism AND you are speaking out against it.

[Asker]

Seriously 🙄🙄

[Opinion Owner]

Do you actively speak out against feminism? Do you see many other women doing it?

[Asker]

You sound like a liberal saying “be anti racist always!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Opinion Owner]

I'll take that as a tacit no, in which case you deserve all the criticism you're getting.

[Asker]

😭😂 ok Brandon

[inhua]

only supporters of feminism get the blame for feminism whether it be male feminists or female feminists.

male feminists be out here virtue signaling that false rape accusations don't exist that is until they get accused of rape.

female feminists want to be treated as equals that is while it suits them until they get held accountable for being an equal i. e. violently hitting a man and then being shocked when he hits them back.

[Asker]

I've been based since 16 and i get blamed a lot lol.

[inhua]

what are you getting blamed for?

[Asker]

If I point out a double standard or dislike something that seems unfair they say, “Thats what you get!!” Which also doesn’t make sense since they’re convinced feminism completely benifits women which isn’t true.

[Asker]

Just a lack of logic, hypocrasy, idiocy in general.

[inhua]

what double standard are you pointing out though?

[Asker]

Like how women are made to work, do most of the domestic labor, as well as going through childbirth and dealing with mnestrual cycles. Im fine doing the latter three, but its very unbalanced and many times the women today will work just as much as the man yet also do most the work at home. “She should tell him what needs done” thats work too. Managers get paid more for a reason.
It’s much worse for most women now a days. Luckily im not in that situation, but it angers me because I often see it.

[Asker]

As well as still expecting a woman to take his last name, but then not wanting to be a leader or provider in a relationship. IT seems like feminism conviences men in many ways as well… but for men and women its toxic. Incels love the perks just as much as feminists do… just different sides of the same coin. They’re selfish and lazy just like the feminists, no different. Profiting or wishing to profit in the same selfish ways.

[inhua]

there's a difference though. women aren't made to work. they're choosing to work.

a woman having a job is a nice bonus but not necessary. a man having a job is a baseline foundation for a relationship and eventually a family. a man's role also includes unwritten rules such as being the frontline of defense to confront a home intruder plus the domestic labor he is tasked with tends to be extremely physical unless you expect your man to be chopping trees and moving heavy furniture every day he comes home from work.

[Asker]

Not really. It’s pretty expected. Many men now a days reject the responsibility of fatherhood as well.

[inhua]

fatherhood isn't chosen by the man, it's chosen by the woman whether she wants to keep or abort the baby. if she keeps the baby, he either stays or needs to pay child support and he would never know if the baby is truly his if she's been sleeping around unless there's a DNA test.

if you find that men are rejecting fatherhood responsibilities it could be because they have no assurance that the baby is there's.

[Asker]

The expectation to murder a child for a mans connivence is also a negative. How do we know he's not a whore? And he chose to sleep with her 🤷‍♀️ its as much his as hers they both chose. Maybe he should be in a committed relationship if he doesn't want that.

[inhua]

a man can't get pregnant so whether he's a whore or not isn't going to change anything as he's already the known father and will have to accept the responsibility of fatherhood either way.

[Asker]

He gets women pregnant tho 💀 he can get fifty women pregnant in the timespan that a woman can only have one kid! You’re Wildin. He realistically should be the one under pressure to be more responsible.

[inhua]

of course he should be responsible. my point is a man whoring around doesn't have the same effect as a woman whoring around. nonetheless he shouldn't be doing because it messes up other guys who are trying to be responsible dads only for those guys to find out their kid isn't there's

[Asker]

It has much more of an effect, yes

[Asker]

Don’t have hookups then lol. Lot less likely your wife will be having the kids of unknown men then a one night stand. In that case you’re pretty much equally lible for not knowing if you’re the father. Before you say, “married women cheat too” statistically men cheat more and then the resources for her kids when she was loyal are also divided. I don't know why we’re even talking about that LMAO. What’s ur point? I said feminism has been shot for women too and then you bring up shit men and women

[inhua]

the man is only liable if he's sleeping around with taken women. he's not liable if she cheats.

feminism (at least it's modern iteration) isn't all sunshine and rainbows and has a lot more drawbacks for both sides that are been masked under the whole gender equality mantra.

[Dargil]

I don't see that is true in the least. Creating a new victim class?

[Asker]

Lol no but a lot of men wanna be bitchy like one. I’ve constantly been experiencing it recently.

[Dargil]

You must be looking for validation of a pre-formed opinion. Men are GRATEFUL for non-Feminist women. Give me any example of men blaming non-feminists for feminism. Like White Supremacists, there are none.

[Asker]

Im not lmao. Im just having my own opinions. If I say, “It’s annoying how women and men work the same amount yet women still have most the domestic labor,”
They make assumptions, “Thats what you get stupid feminist!”
“Um… Im not a feminist, im a traditionalist.”
“Nope! You made your bed!! THis is what you wanted, worked for, and asked for!!” Retards for sure but it keeps happening lol

[Anonymous]

Normal men don't, we blame feminists for feminism, not the normal women who don't support them. Guys are cool with redpilled and based women.

[Asker]

I’ve had a lot of dudes be like, “THATS WHAT YOU GET” whenever I complain about a double standard or bad precedence that is the result of feminism. Mfs be retarded and are just gonna create even more feminists

[FilmGuy93]

Most women are feminist; that's the reason. Don't expect a logical explanation to an emotional reaction. You'll just get confused and frustrated.

[Asker]

That’s not true tho. And if a woman says, “I’m not a feminist and I hate this double standard”
The guy sounds retarded and feminine af to say “that’s what you get feminist!”

[FilmGuy93]

It depends on what exactly you mean when you say "feminist," but you're right; it does sound retarded for a guy to say that.