Because it fails to do what people claim it does. People argue that feminism is for equality but men and women are already equal. In terms of political freedoms and legal rights men and women are equal and in many cases women have MORE rights than men, i. e. favoritism in child-custody cases, a woman's say over a man's in any given abortion, rape accusations etc. (I won't make any claims as to whether these are good or bad things so continue believing whatever you intend to believe regarding them).
The major problem isn't that we're not equal, it's that we're DIFFERENT. Men and women are NOT the same no matter how much people try to claim otherwise. We have significant biological differences that we can't and shouldn't be trying to change OR ignore. Men are better than women at some things and women are better than men at other things. This poses a problem since those differences demand that we treat each others in different ways.
Showing respect means something different to a man than it does to a woman simply because men and women consider DIFFERENT things to be respectful. For example, girls instinctively feel as though people aren't listening to them if they aren't looking at them while talking. This isn't so much an issue for guys, thus, in order for a guy to communicate the same amount of respect to a woman as he would another man, he must actually put in greater effort. In order to show EQUAL respect to a woman or a man, one must show respect in different ways. This applies to many things. Men and women prioritize differently, compartmentalize differently, make decisions through fundamentally different motivations that are influenced by biology, etc etc.
Feminism as a fight for equality is not needed since, in every way in which government can influence the situation, men and women are, in fact, equals. It tries to address a problem without knowing the true root of the problem. That root again being that men and women are very different from each other. I genuinely consider women to be equal to men but I don't think we're the exact same. I think if we try to reach some point where we all treat each other the exact same we're being foolish since I believe that would be insensitive to the different weaknesses of both men and women AND would prevent us from developing our biological gifts as men and women.
Geez. I wonder why that could be. Maybe let's hear what actual feminists with influence and power had to say.
“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” ~Robin Morgan
“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” ~Andrea Dworkin
“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” ~Susan Brownmiller
“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” ~Sally Miller Gearhart
"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.” ~Barbara Jordan
“Compare victims’ reports of rape with women’s reports of sex. They look a lot alike….[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it.” ~Catherine MacKinnon
"As far as I’m concerned, men are the product of a damanged gene." ~Germaine Greer
“The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together…. Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process…. No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibilities to her children… Families will be finally destroyed only when a revolutionary social and economic organization permits people’s needs for love and security to be met in ways that do not impose divisions of labor, or any external roles, at all.”
~Linda Gordon
“Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ‘reach WITHIN women to fuck/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ‘even if she does not feel forced.’
~Judith Levine
Because feminism largely states that forces outside of women's forces are responsible for "inequality" (which may or may not exist) when it's mostly due to how women behave with each other. It's refuses to look at a woman's responsibility as a cause of said "inequalities."
Women largely value herd mentality/being same, not to imposing and putting other women (who are often ahead of the game down). Competition is considered bad.
Men on the other hand, befriend other men who are "better". They welcome competition and focus more of their energy on problem solving and improving themselves then tearing each other down. When you have one gender that focuses on problem solving and welcomes competition and another gender that values herd mentality and tear each other down, the other gender is going to be better.
In addition, men sound more confident ("I will solve that problem for you or you get your money back or We should do this...) vs a woman (I will do my best to get that done for you or I think we should...). Women are trained to soften their language from an early age to soften their language so that they don't sound "snobby". And this isn't from men, but from other women. Women are also at times, afraid or discouraged from improving themselves due to pressures from their friends or fear of being ostracized.
In all, women are largely responsible for said "inequality" and feminists (at least the ones of social media) refuse to see that.
As a woman I dislike feminism. And I can safely agree with a lot of men on this situation. Feminism has taught women that they don't need to respect their husbands, other male figures that has Authority in his head over their lives. Many of them see patriarchy as an enemy and then call it misogyny. It has got women to be out of the home, instead of having their place in the home. The whole agenda was about having a takeover and to destroy the natural order of man and humans as a whole. There is a reason why God has said that man is a head of a woman, and for those reasons that's what women really hate. They hate the fact that they feel that they have no control over it is truly understandable for the way how a lot of men treated females. You sadly have a lot of people in other countries that believe that a woman is beneath a man like she's dirt or that she's only good for sex and bearing children. All these things can easily have been fixed if people just stuck to the way God originally intended it. But since people chose to follow the world's way, and the moment that outside influences and the government had interfered with the boundaries of what we would call religious freedom and separation of church and state , is when all these problems really started. And it went far back into the 1800s in earlier before we had settlement into the Americas. That's what happens when you have political and religious corruption.
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A small correction I could make is that many men dislike specifically modern feminism, not the whole idea as a whole. The current third or whichever wave is almost completely off the rails.
I don't hate feminism as a whole, i simply hate modern/third wave feminism. Im all for equality of opportunity, but things like the pink tax, mansplaining, man-spreading, etc are all moronic ideas.
If you were a guy you'd likely hate it as well. Most feminists aren't men because they are being targets of people who victimize themselves to justify bringing men down.
1. Feminists say the want equality but they actually want special treatment: to be free from responsibility & consequences yet have all the benefits men who embrace responsibility have.
For example, the Weinstein metoo thing. Not one woman (I heard of) accused him of rape. They let the guy into their hotel rooms at 3AM knowing he was a total perv. But they also knew he could get them movie jobs worth millions. These women are hookers. Trying to get paid twice. There’s been many cases of women making false accusations against men & then getting a slap on the wrist or no punishment. Feminists aren’t marching to hold such women accountable.
2. Feminists say they can do anything a man can yet they don’t campaign to do away with alimony Or welfare for single moms.
3. Feminists say it’s her body & her right to have an abortion. But this also means the man has zero say in if he will be a father. Yet he is on the hook financially even if she literally stole his sperm out of a trash can. Coincidentally these women only get knocked up & pop one out when they think they can milk the guy for resources (I’m talking about the moms who are too lazy/special to have careers).
4. Feminists claim that their feelings matter but men aren’t entitled to feelings/opinions. If they don’t care about our feelings why should we care about theirs?
5. Men built all of the great civilizations yet feminists want to run an experiment to see if single moms and women acting like men can do as good/better. Men are right to doubt the ability of women to be constructive (yes, some individual women are).
6. Psychologists have shown that even feminists prefer sexist men in relationships. Sexists meaning he doesn’t kiss her azz & make life all about her. There is literally zero reason for a man to support feminism today.
The entire idea of feminism isn't really a bad thing. I understand why people are for it.
That being said, laws have been passed that make discrimination against women illegal, so the movement has now turned to making women SUPERIOR to men. Now I know not all people are like this in the movement, but the more vocal ones are, and they work to make men seem incompetent and abusive. Now dont get me wrong, some men are. But that is similar to saying all men are murderers because Jack the ripper was Male.
Another main issue with feminism in general is the biological nature of both men and women, and the role that our brains tell us to fulfill.
As guys, we open doors for women, help them when asked, and treat them differently, that is true.
BUT
If you do not want this from us, simply tell us and we will gladly stop. We do it to be nice, and to be gentlemen, so if you request we stop, then that is fine, we will gladly do so.
When it comes to what jobs men have... well that is biology again. Let me be clear firstly, WOMEN CAN BE STRONGER THAN MEN. But in GENERAL, that is not the case. Hence why men usually are the majority on physical jobs and manual labor that involves heavy lifting.
Another thing that people hate is the (especially recent) claim that men period shame women. I will tell you flat out, we have no idea what's happening. All we know is that you are bleeding and in pain. Anyone who shames you for a natural function is frankly an idiot and most men will probably agree with me on this point.
I hope this was helpful, and I just want to make clear that I dont mind the idea of equality, I just do not think that because of past mistakes, a new (and so far blameless) generation should be punished for it.
If you want to talk more feel free to PM me and I will talk (respectfully, please dont start getting mad out of nowhere (this is to men AND women))
I think the entire idea is sily. It (feminism) started as a contrary idiology to blatant sexism. Battles were fought and won for equality. But like all idiologies it is fundamentally flawed. So it seems to me that modern feminism looks to explain percieved inequalities through the same old lense. If this female makes less that this male at this job the only reason must be the evil patriarchy. 😱 Plus they are useful idiots for causing disention and division and rob people of their personal power. If you notice the themes of what are talked about in media the narritive is always division and has been increasingly since the nineties. Black against white. Male against female. Red vs Blue. And then if you walk through a grocery store in any part of the country there are people just going about their day. No one is racist or sexist in the real world. I took this picture in texas. I am on a motorcycle trip across america. I asked a simple question of the lady behind the counter and these two wonderful people gave me more info than I ever could have wanted. I have also met people of other races who were totally awful to me. Not rascism. Just assholes. Women who delighted in the fact that I was out of water and charged me an obscene amount of money for a basic nesessity. Not sexist, just bitches.
Certain types of feminism are the problem. Feminism is still needed in places like Muslim majority areas where women are actually oppressed or the bible belt where women still think they shouldn't work. But the type of feminism men are constantly seeing in the media is just whining and nit picking Women are complaining about things like the pockets of their jeans are too small compared to men. We see that and just assume that women will complain no matter what, so it's irritating.
Stories like this are what piss off men: interestingengineering.com/study-confirms-womens-pockets-are-too-small-for-smartphones
Who gives a shit about your pants pockets when there are women out there being forced to wear stuff like this:
Modern feminism is a joke. They want special rights and treatment for women and seem to want men to suffer. They also act as though the only bad people in the world are men. They're not feminine in most cases and they act like that's something to be proud of.
Intersectionality has turned it into a circus where anyone who feels like an outcast is now a feminist. "Oh, and anyone who isn't white is feminist. Oh, and anyone who is willing to be subservient to women, people with higher melanin content, and those in the LGBT community can be feminists, but you must be below them." It's stupid.
Additionally, they claim to want equality, but they are against women receiving similar sentencing for crimes. They also act like women never commit domestic abuse, rape, murder, or other heinous crimes, but they do. It is just under reported and more lightly sentenced when it is reported (or, in the case of rape, unable to be prosecuted because laws are written in a way to exclude women from that). And we cannot forget the false allegations that happen all the time and ruin men's lives. How is that acceptable?
I'm all for equality. I truly am. If you want to go out and work, great! I hope you have an education, as it's attractive and a generally good idea. Voting? Yeah, go for it! But don't ask me to surrender rights for you, or give you special treatment.
there's more insanity to talk about, but this is already probably going to get flamed.
That can be simply answered in a sentence. Feminism doesn't pursue equality. The laughable third-wave of Western feminism simply seeks to be superior than men, at this point we all have the same rights. It's time they take off their patriarchal oppression blinders and see the truth. Western women are not oppressed. In the past a woman couldn't vote at all, get a job, have a bank account or buy a house without the authorization of a man, among other things. All of which a modern-day woman can do all on her own. I don't support feminism because I don't believe that I am oppressed, because I am not. It's time to put facts before feelings, before we lose the last smidge of sanity that is left in today's society. Feminism was one of the greatest movements that have existed, however, how many more human rights can women get? At this point it's almost asking for extra rights.
I believe these memes express why men hate feminism in a way that women can understand:
the feminists these people are aware of are the first world feminists. the only reason why they hate feminist is because in the US and other rich countries, these ‘feminists’ cry about small meaningless things like men. these types of feminists hate men.
Because modern day American feminists don’t stand for anything. They walk around talking mad shit, talking about how we are not equal when that simply isn’t the truth (at least In America it isn’t). I don’t blame guys. I don’t like todays feminists either. They are super annoying
I'm a woman and I hate modern feminism. It's a shitshow full of feminazis who hate men and don't want equality, but rather superiority. Or they want to whine about stupid things (manspreading for example) Not to say every feminist is bad, but the vocal feminazis are the ones you see and the ones who represent feminism, and if I was a guy, I'd hate it too.
I think it all depends on the manifestation and practice of it then the paper definition. The paper definition, as I know it, implies equality between the sexes. Equality in this sense refers to fair treatment of men and women, and no discrimination due to sex when it comes to justice and a wide variety of opportunities. I agree with this definition of feminism, but perhaps the practice and manifestation of it by certain people or groups can change the meaning of feminism and how it’s seen by many.
Because feminism is stupid to the extreme. It's just more whiny leftist victim mentality. They have absolutely no clue what they are even fighting against. They create imaginary phantoms, then fight against it.
For the record, almost all the women I know hate feminism also, for the same reason.
This victim mentality affects a lot more than feminism. People need to stop playing the victim. Successful people don't play the victim. They don't constantly make excuses or point their finger at someone else.
I don’t like modern day feminism that much because it makes women entitled and allows them to constantly play the victim. They are encouraged to act trashy by sleeping around, and dressing vulgarly to express themselves as feminists. I think both genders should have equal rights, like equal employment opportunities.
They are against extreme feminism, the kind that fights against men, rather than fight for women.
The internet is filled with videos about these extreme feminists. Some people are more sensitive getting tunnel visioned that others. Some poeple believe all feminists are like this, those actively search for feminist posts to attack them.
There is a large stigma on feminism because of this. But I think it is important to note that these guys are NOT against womens' rights. They want equality, they don't want women to be benefitted more than men.
now are you referring to the feminism that is for women's rights or the crazy women's version of feminism... cos there are 2 different sorts
the one i can agree with, which is practical and done right and the one where certain fanatical feminists claim you can't do, say, or even be a guy, that all men are pieces of shit with no right to live
where they even attack women for doing things they choose to do in life but cos they conflict with their idea of feminism they are not considered worthy of being considered under their views cos they like to take part in what the crazy feminists deems as a male preference or man created ideal
even the normal feminists dont get on with those sorts of fanatics
and i've known a fair few tbh
Because people claim feminism and instead of promotion equality they just give all the things that are unfair and almost seemingly want women to have uneven benefits. For example, wage Gap is a thing but it's misleading. When you take out maternity leave it's virtually non-existent. Racial wage Gap is more of a thing than gender one. A lot of misleading stuff and it gets annoying when instead of relating to you and wanting the same it seems like special treatment. Then when something reasonable comes around you don't even wanna listen anymore
Feminism = Misandry
That's why. What kind of man would support a group or a movement that is made to go against him? Just look at what feminists do these days. Create man-hating terminologies such as Toxic Masculinity and fake ideologies like Mansplaining and Manspreading. These feminists don't even have elementary school knowledge of biology. They are violent against men and women who support men. They violently and verbally attack men who ask for help or try to raise awareness towards something that men suffer from. They create false statements such as the gender pay gap, women get abused more. commit suicide more and get raped on campus. Look at facts and you will see that every bit of crap that comes out of their mouth is a lie. Feminism is cancer and needs to be killed once and for all.
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