What are your thoughts on Rage Against The War Machine and Anti-War protests and attitudes against a potential america-russia war?

[williambolt447]

Im all for it. I know it seems like your being mean to Ukranians or whatever.

Let me explain my perspective. Im against it. I lived through middle eastern wars. Most of it was terrible. Back then it being a liberal meant you were anti war and pro liberty. Nowadays a lot of people call themselves liberals but are actually pro war and anti liberty. Then there not even a liberal anymore.

Back then it was fun to be a liberal because George Bush was being a Dick and liberals were being Cool.

Nowadays democrats control and run the media and manipulate people and deny outside the box thinking and use buzzwords to bully you into thikning exactly like them and ironically become authoritarians when they complained about authoritarianism not to long ago.

Liberals and Libertarians use to criticize the media as propaganda. Nowadys they

Democrats started vietnam war by the way. Then they flipped and said it was Conservative war mongers.

Democrats did a lot of shit like hurt mentally challenged people I am autistic myself and that pisses me off.

Nowadays they think if they have a cute little fake woke coalition of different countries and go to war with russia all will be well um no that would trigger ww3.

here's a good point for far left arrogant fucks: If covid is so bad and the vaccines are all effective and trustworthy, then why instigate a world war? Wouldn't nuclear warfare create more radiation and get people sick with radiation diseases?

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I wanted to keep it short and not go long enough to not be allowed to post it and im exhausted today basically i meant liberals now go with whatever the media says and also back corrupt companies like fbi and cia they used to criticize but libertarians still criticize this stuff

[Leopard23]

I think anti war movement seems to flick between political affliation. Wasn't that long ago that antifa attacked anti war protesters protesting Obama's involvement in Syria and Libya and yemen, of course hillary was pushing for military intervention in Syria at the time.

I can't see the US getting involved in a hot war against Russia, this is not unlike when the soviet union supplied north Vietnam with fighters, tanks, ak47s, sks rifles, anti aircraft missles and batteries, radar stations, heavy artillery, mortars, rpgs, grenades and provided military training all of which was used against us military personnel. A war by proxy.

Unlike in Afghanistan and in South Vietnam before it the US is supplying weapons and training to a country who's people are actually willing to do the fighting.

[Sargentcaptain]

Ah yeah, that famous 'anti war' logic of 'fuck it, just let Hitler have Poland, he didn't invade the US'. Why have allies? Why have trade agreements? Why would you want other nations to be liberal democracies and not authoritarian dictatorships?

[williambolt447]

ww3 would happen and look at vietnam which a democrat started by the way and look at iraq afghan and how that turned out and countries dont need to be intermingling to much

and nobody wins if ww3 happens!

[Sargentcaptain]

The only reason ww3 will happen is because lipdicks don't give a shit about Georgia, about Ukraine, about Moldova, and will only start looking around when there's a Russian flag in front of their porches. Seriously, to what end are you gonna bitch about the prospect of ww3? What if Russia attack Romania? Should we intervene then? Serbia? Croatia? Slovenia? Italy? France? At what point will you get your head out of the sand? Should we just let all of these nations become Putin's puppet states?

[Sargentcaptain]

Also, basing your entire worldview on 'liberals = bad' is just as fucking dogshit as 'CNN report = true'.

[williambolt447]

you seem to believing every left wing media platform dont you? its ironic you mock others and call them a puppet when you believe the mainstream media fake news lies. im not basing my entire worldview on liberals = bad. i said liberals aren't really liberals anymore. i have nuanced views look at my posts and you'll understand my views more.

i have autism and adhd and i am better at nuance than you.

if you wanna have a civilized convo and respect me we can but not if ur gonna be rude

[Sargentcaptain]

> you seem to believing every left wing media platform dont you?

lol, lmao, no I fucking hate them. I basically agree with 80% of libertarian platform, aside from the atrocious foreign policy.

> if you wanna have a civilized convo and respect me we can but not if ur gonna be rude

Alright. Can you answer the question? At which nation do you draw the line? In case of invasion of which country should we start mobilizing?

[williambolt447]

I guess it would be America.

Whats wrong with just sending people weapons

[Sargentcaptain]

Ineffectiveness is what's wrong. Do you think ww2 would have been won in Europe if it hadn't been for over 70 thousand Americans on the beaches of Normandy alone?

As for the first part, even without the obvious moral and political ramifications, this is a dogshit option for you personally. You've successfully dug your own grave. Enemy nation occupies basically all of Europe, Africa and Asia. What stops them now from absolutely steamrolling America?

[williambolt447]

Wheres your source for this occupying of Europe, africa and asia.

Do you realize the rammifications of a world war by the way?

You still haven't proven how its a good idea and how we would survive.

You do know that this russia bs is a distraction right? From the illuminati and the elite and the cabal and the new world order.

The bilderberg, they use war to crash our economy.

[Sargentcaptain]

> Wheres your source for this occupying of Europe, africa and asia.

This is a scenario, similar to what was going on in ww2.

> Do you realize the rammifications of a world war by the way?

Do you realize the ramifications of sitting around doing jack shit?

> You still haven't proven how its a good idea and how we would survive.

It might not, but what the fuck is the alternative? Just letting other nation conquer the world and us because, fuck it, it could be worse? Are you really willing to cuck yourself because the enemy told you you're only allowed to sit back and learn Cyrillic?

> You do know that this russia bs is a distraction right? From the illuminati and the elite and the cabal and the new world order.

Ah yes, very nuanced. It's a damn coming of age story. Like a 13 year old's first conspiracy. Fuck is this supposed to mean anyway? Don't pay no mind to the authoritarian dictatorship waging war, trying to expand to it's former USSR 'glory'.

> The bilderberg, they use war to crash our economy.

And what the fuck does this mean? Even if true, this changes literally nothing.

Your 'nuanced' here has rendered you incapable of engaging in a hypothetical and it makes it so you're bitching about conspiracies while the 'distraction' tanks are rolling into town. The 'nuanced' made you go off on tangents when faced with the consequences of your politics.

[williambolt447]

You still haven't proven that russia is doing all of these things and how attacking them is a good idea. All you did is curse and yell at ironically call me a cuck. You said you'd be civil. Why are you aggressively pushing for war? I'm not gonna support this war just because people insult or try to be aggressive.

[Sargentcaptain]

I haven't proven what? I don't know what exactly I'm supposed to prove here? And I gave you a hypothetical, explained what your politics would cause and why retaliating against authoritarian, expansionist dictatorships is a good idea. Going back to the scenario, you asked for source of them occupying continents. That is the result of your politics because you said we should only attack people who attack America and America alone.

But fine, let's talk about this specific war. What do you think will be the resolution of this war? Why did it start, what is Putin's goal? What exactly do you mean by stopping the war, precisely what means and results do you want.

[williambolt447]

there's a lot of misinformation going on so I wanna know where your getting your information on. NATO is corrupt and so is the CIA and the FBI.

[williambolt447]

and we could start by leaving nato and holding NATO accountable and abolishing the cia and the fbi and creating something Better to fill its place

[gorydetails]

The start of this war was that Russia sees NATO invading to their territory as you’re claiming Russia will do.

[Sargentcaptain]

> and we could start by leaving nato and holding NATO accountable and abolishing the cia and the fbi and creating something Better to fill its place

What are your problems with NATO? And you've, again, avoided answering my questions.

I get my information from the news and basic deduction.

[Guy13]

America has been at war continuously since 1980 in some country or another. There is nothing changing and it would behoove you all to get historical informed.

[williambolt447]

Yeah so what does that make it a good idea?

You try to talk tough but now your cucking out to far left dems

[gorydetails]

I agree with you 100%. Enough is enough.