Has your nation earned your loyalty, if so, how?

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Julie4 · Accepted Answer

Oh yes I am loyal to my nation, and it is difficult for you to imagine how much I love my country. Although I am very admiring of other countries and cultures.

My country is France but my grandparents were Spanish, they left Spain and France welcomed them, allowed them to live a dignified life, giving them work, allowing them to have access to social assistance that they did not even imagine possible that is at the level of health, paid vacations, aid to raise children etc.. Of course I would be lying if I said that everything was like in a wonderful world, because it is true that as foreigners at the beginning they could face some bad comments from some people. However, France has allowed them to have a better life than what they had, and have been able to ensure a future for their children, in the end they have assimilated to the French culture although imperfectly and have always been grateful to France, this is why I am "Loyal" to France because I believe that just for that I owe him an eternal gratitude.

For the rest as a citizen in love with France, it is natural to feel a strong loyalty to this nation rich in history and culture. For me, my love for France is based on several elements that have shaped its unique identity. France's tumultuous history, with its many battles and revolutions, has contributed to its reputation as a passionate and rebellious country. At the same time, its tradition of philosophical thought, literature, and art have spawned intellectual movements that have profoundly influenced the entire world.

France's cultural richness is also a reason for my loyalty to this nation. Its cuisine, architecture, historical monuments and traditions are elements that make France a unique and fascinating destination for travelers from around the world. In addition, France is a symbol of liberty, equality and fraternity, values that have been cherished by the nation since the French Revolution.

General de Gaulle, a great French leader, often spoke of the importance of these values to the French people. As he said, "France cannot be France without greatness." He also emphasized the importance of liberty by saying, "Liberty is a right, equality an opportunity, fraternity a duty."

In conclusion, my love for France is rooted in its exciting history, its cultural richness and its fundamental values. France is a country that has helped shape world history and continues to play an important role in international affairs. As a lover of France, I am proud to support this nation and work for its continued prosperity.

DizzyDesii · Accepted Answer

Assuming nation/country go hand in hand, I don’t dislike my country. I’m living comfortably in it. Wouldn’t want to live in any other country. And have no intentions to travel many places outside of it (aside from maybe AU, CAN, and Bahamas). I don’t think that makes me loyal though. I just prefer familiar territory.

abc3643 · Accepted Answer

My country doesn't need to earn my loyalty; it should expect it.

This is one of the fundamental rules of life in the human world:
>>> You live at the mercy of everyone else.
>>> If you are enough of an asshole, they will kill you.

Here's another:
>>> If you go to war against the world, you will lose.

I am very serious about that first one. This happens with social animals too - the asshole gets ostracized or killed by the others.

It's even happened here in the US. Learn about the murder Ken McElroy and the town of Skidmore Missouri that took him out; over 40 years later, his murder is still unsolved because the town did what every social group does: remove the disruptors and threats to the group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Ywbslf2Fo

But, social groups also protect their loyal and trusted members.

And when you are born into that social group, you are automatically given that protected status.
It's when you are no longer loyal or trustworthy that you start to have problems.

So, when you think about it, your nation has given you its loyalty because you already "earned it" by being born to it. But, once you begin to not be worthy of that loyalty, you are going to have problems.

It's just that simple. You are nothing... NOTHING... against everyone else. You need to earn THEIR loyalty because, if you don't, may God have mercy on your soul because 4 billion years of evolution that has lead to modern humans will not.

WhiteSteve · Accepted Answer

These are the kinds of questions people should be asking themselves, as opposed to the blind, virtue-signaling patriotism/nationalism we typically see.

For me…not really. I guess America hasn’t outright done me dirty or anything, but “straight white dude has a relatively easy ride through life in America as compared to others” isn’t exactly a front-page headline.

At the end of the day, it’s all about me and mine. I don’t even know most of my “fellow Americans”, and I sure wouldn’t have any expectations of them to make any sort of sacrifice for me, either. All I can really do is look out for the best interests of me and my own wolfpack. I don’t even know any of these assholes pulling the strings in DC, lmao.

RolandCuthbert · Answer

I am not a nationalist. I don't understand why people don't get how evil nationalism is and can be. We are seeing this play out in Ukraine at this very instant. Hundreds of thousands dead. . . all because one guy can convinced his nation that their "nationalist" goals are in jeopardy.

But I am a patriot. I am a patriotic to the original ideals our government was founded upon. We live in a nation, where the rights of citizens are the highest law. We have rights and freedoms that no one, not even our government can take away. Nationalism isn't about that. Nationalism is the embodiment of one specific group/culture's worldview into the rule of law. And nationalists use the government to enforce their vision on everyone else.

We lost over 80 million people in a war because of this ideology. The Jewish culture was almost wiped out of existence because of this nonsense.

Lynx122 · Answer

Yes no doubt. It's one of the few countries in the world where the people with no power and money get taken care of well. The infrastructure is great, the democracy is one of the best in the world, the nature is beautiful and protected.

I already served in the military for ten months and I would still be on call if something happened, if they didn't disband my company about 5 years after I was done with my service because of restructuring or whatever. So now I'm not in the military at all anymore which is also fine by me. If I could chose any country in the world to be born in there's only about 5-8 countries that are actual competition when it comes to living standards, happiness, health care, education, social safety net, infrastructure etc. So that alone shows how lucky I was and I'm grateful and glad.

Sun_Kim-Ai · Answer

More than my nation itself, the region where I live has.

It adopted me and we have riches of cultural heritage, territory, cuisine and fauna that I've vowed to protect and promote however I can.

I'm still loyal to my nation, but my region comes first. My wife feels very similar regarding her own region (Südtirol) and although we don't live there, one of her non-negotiables is that our children speak German and know their culture from there. She's quite the campanilist in on that.

As for me, I'm not proud of my birthplace or its nation, France.

Blackcupcake · Answer

no nation has earned my loyalty… I’m not into politics and if any war or anything happens, my priority is safety for my loved ones and that’s the only thing I would ever put my life on the line for, with the exception for kids and animals.

aldine96 · Answer

I am not loyal to my country in any sense of the word, as a matter of fact if shit hits the fana dn were at war with Russia or china and there's a draft, I'm just gonna start my own militant drug cartel and carry out terrorist attacks against domestic American military bases and make it difficult for them to defeat Russia or china in the event of a world War 3.

I'm not fighting fir a country who's women don't find me attractive just cause I'm slim and look young, I'm not fighting for a country who's government doesn't provide universal health care or improve the lived of young people by making housing affordable and prices of quality foods kept at a minimum. I'm not gonna fight for a country who's people don't know or care about me, if you're a guy who's slim and young looking living in America and especially Canada is like a prison, a no trust zone only without the rape.

Guy13 · Answer

American 🇺🇸 Exceptionalism can only be understood if one has lived elsewhere, such as Asia, Middle East, or Africa for even 3 months. One will also note since our conception we have been the target of every tyrannical Government and Entity.

The Bill of Rights, which emerged from a Biblical worldview of Person, makes America an exceptional Entity.

CreatingWonders · Answer

No, this country has literally gone to the dogs, the government are installed cronies who want to do nothing but make our lives impossible, they want to implement 15 minute cities, have us all on CBDC’s and they want to put in place ULEZ which is a load of rubbish and it will price people off the streets but let’s face it that’s what they want. So no I’m not loyal to this country.

jennifer_bloom · Answer

I do not agree with the government or the societal ideas they project but I’m loyal to my university and my family doctor of 30+ years cause both have treated me well.

goaded · Answer

Which one? :)

I respect both my nationality of birth and the country I live in, they both have pros and cons, but I'd never want to do either any harm. Is that loyalty?

Ignoring the cons is just jingoism, and that's a bad thing.

Sixgunsound · Answer

My loyalty is to my principles and family and friends. My nation doesn't believe in or follow its own rules or mythology.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Yes to the nation, but much of the time that means opposing the actions of the people in charge.

call_me_scar · Answer

Nope if ww3 starts and they start drafting I'm out of here

Guanfei · Answer

My country will always have my loyalty. Not my government.

worldscolide · Answer

My nation, yes, my government, fuck no.

Anpu23 · Answer

No, not at all.

AsaKyo · Answer

No it hasn't because I don't care

TallAnon · Answer

No, nothing binds me here except my direct family.

Minahh · Answer

Nah majority of people are selfish pieces of shit

mikazuki991 · Answer

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riverrat3 · Answer

My nation has my loyalty, politicians do not

Anonymous · Answer

I'm not loyal to anyone.. I'm loyal to money.

SmokinAces2000 · Answer

Hell no

In_Trance · Answer

no they have not

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