Would you like to have Turkiye and the Ukraine in the EU?

[Anonymous]

No its politically divided enough

yes we welcome everyone

[genericname85]

honestly, i want russia in the EU as well. cause that way negotiating would be the more viable option instead of waging war remotely.

[Asker]

it was set up to stop European wars. Then turned into a pro west anti Russian alliance and thats why we have this war. They wanted to join NATO and were told very harshly to fuck off. Then NATO put missile systems and bio labs on their doorstep.

[genericname85]

well it's not necessarily a "pro west anti russian alliance" in my opinion. we're just all part of the NATO mafia. so we have no choice but to do what they want... or else...

we'd do better if we'd be allied with russia and fight the USA... we'd be less controlled then. i mean just think about it. russia left germany after ww2 in 1989. USA is still here to this day. i consider germany to still be occupied. a marionette of the usa just like ukraine currently.

[Alessa13]

Russia doesn't honor any treaties, why would they honor EU things?

[genericname85]

@Alessa13 NATO doesn't either.

[Alessa13]

Very true with paying their % of their GDP.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

You are out of your minde. Russia will never be part of EU or NATO. NEVER EVER!!!

[Alexandrubaschet08]

NATO didn't invade and ocupaid nobady ever and where NATO had been people get prosperity.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Ofcourse NATO will say FUCK OFF when the leaders are still ex-communist and NKVD members.
Nothing change afther the USSR in Russia, NOTHING!!!

[genericname85]

@Alexandrubaschet08 Iraq?

[genericname85]

@Alexandrubaschet08 Afghanistan?

[genericname85]

@Alexandrubaschet08 but you're right NATO never took any country

[Alexandrubaschet08]

In Afganistan people jump on the airplanes to go whit USA and NATO nation. Afganistan protected Binladen location, by that they whas directly implicated in 9/11.
That whas an attack!!!
People will say conspiracy teory about that, but we all see how thous bildings and what happen.
And Iraq had been condamned by NATO allyes like France/Germany, but Afganistan should had been invaded for refusing to give Binladen.

[Iamcoming]

I am from Turkey but ı dont want join to Europe Comminity.

[Asker]

stay out they stick their nose in everything and there's no benefits. They ship their problems to other countries and take the benefits. EU stole fisheries from many countries and ships the debt to countries too.

[Sam2021]

Are you behind on things? Ukraine is part of the EU now that was the whole point when america started this useless war

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Are you out of your minde?
Are you payd by Putin?
This war whas sooooo evident will start from WW2!!!
Russia had attack Ukraine like many other before!!!
Ukraine is not part of EU in any way in this moment.

[Sam2021]

You must be American. Yes they are google it we have welcomed them into the EU AND IM NOT A FAN

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Not at all American.
But you are 100% get favors from Russia no matther where are you from.
EU is an economic aliance witch each country is free to join and do buisnis. That doesn't mean any military implication. Finland is an EU member, if Russia invade them EU, can't do nothing.
2014 Ukrain demand EU, NO NATO.
AFTHER CRIMEA INVASION, Ukraine demand NATO no matther what.

[Lliam]

@Alexandrubaschet08. You obviously have no clue. It's astounding how uninformed so many people are.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

@Lliam The only uninformed people seem to be the pro-russians and people who for real belived Russia is a country like any other country and theyr history is as normal as many other.
RUSSIA IS A TERORIST STATE!

[Lliam]

@Alexandrubaschet08. You're a joke. There is no possibility of a rational discussion with someone who knows nothing and is so utterly brainwashed.
It's hilarious that you think honest analysis is pro-Russian.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

@Lliam You guys didn't even make a honest analist to my acusations. You just simply asum i'm lying

[Lliam]

@Alexandrubaschet08. You didn't say anything worth commenting on. I don't think you are lying. I'm sure that your dogmatic views are sincere. But it's obvious that you know nothing. Go back to playing with your toys and watching cartoons.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

@Lliam Go back and kiss Putin in the brown spot.
Non of you try to have a debate because non of you have argument and all the comunity here will know who you are and block you because your opinions.

[JohnK123]

Lmao how did america start this war

[Alexandrubaschet08]

I'm not from America!

[Anonymous]

neither of those two are trustworthy enough to join

[Adam1978]

I actually wouldn't mind Ukraine after the war and if they manage to clean out the corrupt system, I am more skeptical to turkey. Who has a reversed direction and is moving away from democracy and free press and freedom of speech.

[Luopio27]

All I want is peace on Earth for all of its citizens. I grew up in international schools filled with students from all continents. All our needs were the same, food, water, housing, friends, family, healthcare, hobbies, and education.


We were never divided by race, country, politics, gender or other stuff. I have known only good people from Russia that were in my life. Im from Finland and depressed over all wars of the world.

[Anonymous]

Ukraine yes, although they'll have to solve their poverty and corruption problem and align with liberty focused laws some more.

Türkiye under it's current "leadership" and laws and what it does? So long they waste too much time on upholding religion and reject liberty and neglect their people and economics, it would be too much of a liability to partner up with. I am leaning towards no on this one.

[TerribleTurk]

As Turks, we are not Europeans anyway.

Like our ancestors, we are a race that came from the Asian steppes and taxed the European nations.

Turks will never enter the European Union because they aim to increase the unity of Turan with those of their own blood and religion.

[Agagagagaga]

@TerribleTurk Pffft 🤣 You taxed the Europeans... then watched as your Ottoman Empire fell into decadence, incompetence, and corruption to such a degree that it no longer even exists. It all got gobbled up by the Europeans.

Why, even know the Americans have how many military garrisons occupying your nation?

What a far cry your nation has fallen from those glory days of your Sultans and Pashas.

🤣 😆 😂

[Anonymous]

As long Turkey put visa on Asian countrys.
Ukraine, only afther the war, afther they have clear border and are completling theyr duties in economy. But i will like Ukrain to become first a member of NATO and afther EU.

[AngryCarl2]

I don't know about Ukraine but Turkey needs to become a secular democracy before they can be considered for membership.

[KostasKouvalis]

Absolutely not! Turkey shouldn't even be in NATO

[KostasKouvalis]

@Sahsiyet 😂😂😂😂
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[yakup_firidin]

I live in Türkiye and I want to be my country in EU

[Asker]

why would you want to join. It is politically all over the place and will one day collapse.

[yakup_firidin]

Because I have more confortable lifestyle and I travel all of Europe easily that is amazing

[little_bird1]

I was also from non-EU until few years ago and it is ridiculous how easier it is everything being in EU (paperwork, language, traveling, healthcare, job market, etc.). An amarican would probably never understand how it is being stuck in one small country for the rest of your life (I come from the poorest one on the list by the way). Even travelling for a 10 day vacation somewhere out of the country used to be a pain in the ass with the paperwork, and not to mention language. Luckily more people now speak common languages but it's still shit for non-EU with beaurocracy and politics. There literally does not exist a non-EU benefit, any sane, educated, civilized person would be with creating unions (EU or whatever you want to call it).

[little_bird1]

That is what I like about America; freedom of movement. I want that for whole Europe!! And eventually for the whole world.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

IT WILL NOT COLAPSE

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Change the president, put visa regim on Asian countrys, fix your economy and democraty and you will have all members suport.
As romanian i feel so happy you guys are part of NATO and i olso visited Turkey and will love to come back.
Erdogan is not good enought for you guys. Black sea is still ruled by Turkey.
Better under the Turkish turban than under the claw of the double-headed eagle (Russia).

[TerribleTurk]

@Alexandrubaschet08 Shall we take down Erdogan, who resurrected neo-Ottomanism?

Erdogan should be at the forefront for the invading policies of the Turks.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

@TerribleTurk You should.
In EU all countrys need to not have any more teritoryal problem and desire for military reclayming.
Olso Ataturk will had been a way better option.
Just by changing Hagia Sofia back in to a mosk, Erdogan start conflict whit many european countrys. Will Ataturk made it a museum as a compromise and evrybody whas extremly happy, evrybody could visit it whit no any complications or problem.

[ChefPapiChulo]

They have issues controlling their corruption.

[alice55]

Turkey no

Ukraine yes

[welcomemen]

Ukraine is a European country so yes

[Terka99]

Ukraine maybe, Turkey not

[QuietRunner]

Any reason only for Ukraine?

[Terka99]

@QuietRunner Turkish politic/culture is not close to EU.

[QuietRunner]

@terka99
good assessment

[briigantexx]

I don't think Ukraine is close either. Lol :)

[Alexandrubaschet08]

Ottoman Empire and later one Turkey whas more liberal and tolerance in time when West Europ whas colonizating and killing completly inocent nations.
A popular saying at the time was “Better the Turkish turban than the Papal tiara.”

[TerribleTurk]

@terka99
What you said is absolutely correct.

In addition to the religion and language factor, there is historical anger against us Turks.

[briigantexx]

How do you know these things? 😅

[briigantexx]

@Alexandrubaschet08

[Alexandrubaschet08]

@briigantexx I'm from a country who use to be under Ottoman influence.
@TerribleTurk you guys still are responsable for some instabilitys that last from your times.
Kosovo, Rep. Moldova, Cyprus.

[briigantexx]

@Alexandrubaschet It is surprising that you say so many things with great honesty, so I congratulate you separately and it is as if I know what country you are from. 😅

[Alexandrubaschet08]

@briigantexx is something from what i say not true?
Yes Turkey made mistake in the past but in the same time Turkey had try many time to shou they can be better so from me they deserve at last our suport to get more close to the European family, whit olso whas an Ottoman dream.
This dream doesn't need to become real by blood and hate, but by cooperation and friendships

[briigantexx]

Congratulations on being a meritorious person

[briigantexx]

And I sent you follow request

[Anonymous]

Yes. I would save the US a ton of money.

[BazookaTrouper]

Ukraine yes. Turkiye, No.

[boobliker]

not at my age as can't run very well now