Do you really believe the trans movement is “natural”?

[Anonymous]

I believe gender dysphoria exists but is extremely rare. I have no doubt than over 90% of the people identifying as “trans” really have other deep seated issues and depression that has absolutely nothing to do with gender dysphoria. I also believe society is harming these people much more than they are helping them by “celebrating” their so called transition.

Yes

No

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2 mo

I know years past these people legitimately dealt with discrimination, harassment and bullying. If you were transgendered in the 50s or 60s you probably were the real deal when it came to gender dysphoria.

But nowadays what going on is absolutely insane. It’s just odd, annoying or bizarre for people who have to interact with these people. Society is incentivizing this insanity which is resulting in people making irreversible changes to their body.

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2 mo

People who encourage prepubescent kids to transition are worse than pedophiles. I’m not kidding. If you push a young child to “transition” you will severely damage them of the rest of their life. I never thought something could be worse than a pedo but there really is something more heinous now.

[Tamera952]

“Natural”? Well guess that depends on your definition of natural. Why wouldn’t it be?
Not sure what you mean by a ‘movement’ either…. There has always been transgendered people, just increased visibility lately these days.

Naturally it seems there is a group of people that believe that they are naturally misaligned in a body that doesn’t match their brain — so what? I’m gonna not over think it, & believe them at their word. It’s not like they’re kidding around — They’re pretty serious about it & not mistaken (usually) about it, …. so it all seems rather natural to me.

So naturally, I wish them well & get on with it.

[Agagagagaga]

Naturally I question your intelligence and moral character of your parents. Naturally.

[devilish-cutie]

Definitely dont find it natural and find it deeply disturbing. However, what other people to themselves and if it doesn't hurt me or others, that is not my concern. Also I cannont comprehend to know how someone feels and what is inside of someone to want to do that, meaning maybe some people are born with different genders regarding their soul and body so who am I to know how it really is inside those people.

[Asker]

I do believe in free will and adults (yes legal adults) can make their own decisions.

But look at how this is being pushed on underaged kids now. It could detrimentally impact someone for the rest of their life if their misdiagnosed.

[Tamera952]

What’s so disturbing about it?

[devilish-cutie]

@Tamera952 That you would cut your dick if you are a guy, just generally altered your physical appearance to that point to change gender

[devilish-cutie]

pushed on underaged kids? I dont see that

[Kaneki05]

Well it is. Unless your gonna tell me frogs and how they change between sex's isn't a natural event and somehow humans just genetically made frogs that way so we could claim this in the future because everything has to be a conspiracy.

All creatures upon this earth adapt to what suits them, why should this be any different?

[Asker]

So you really believe that above? Seriously thought this all the way through and never had any doubts?

[Kaneki05]

It's only been in nature before humans even existed so yes.

[Asker]

Has been widespread in nature? Widespread in the mammalian species?

[Kaneki05]

Pretty much. How do you think female and male came to be in the first place? It was by us evolving from things that didn't even have sex in that sense. What makes you think humans evolve differently? to the point we couldn't change sex's at all in the future or past. Unless you are believing in the whole Adam and Eve Bs it's pretty obvious we didn't all start as just men or women right away so why would those be fixed things?

[Asker]

And how are these “transitions” working out for people? Huh? Remember Jazz Jennings? She is now clinically depressed and 100 lbs overweight. She finds herself more attracted to women which makes sense given she was born male.

Although I completely disagree with your “frog theory” above let’s just pretend it was possible. Then why is there such astronomical depression and suicide rates among the trans community (and some are getting violent now)?

Don’t tell me it’s because of “discrimination”. Bs. It’s not only acceptable but now “celebrated” to transition which is insane.

Adults can make their own choices. But when you have sick adults pushing kids to transition then that’s a whole another animal and it’s horrifying. Minors (and even prepubescent children) are getting hormones and surgeries that permanently alter their bodies. What happens if their “identity” turned out to be a huge mistake? Now what?

[Kaneki05]

I don't see how you jump from two massive different points. People been depressed makes 0 difference to the objective fact of how evolution works.
This would be like saying well we know there are creatures than can naturally asexual reproduce but I'm gonna deny this fact because people who are asexual are depressed lmao.

[Kaneki05]

So what are you really asking me? Does this happen naturally? Or is this good for one's mental health? because these two are very different questions.
I answered your naturally one already so.

[Asker]

So if someone says they are “transgendered” and plan on getting a surgery do you automatically buy that because it’s “natural”. Does it ever cross your mind they mind be suffering from an unrelated issue but they mistakenly believe they are transgendered? Especially when a 6 year old boy says he’s a girl?

[Kaneki05]

Welp that's also just another question entirely. At the 6 for humans is not an age you'll be certain of anything really.
And whether or not one mistakes their own identity is up to them, I fail to see how that's anyone's problem but themselves if confused they should have thought about it more. Just most average people won't so then when they regret that fact I just shrugs because you can't expect nor force everyone to have patience.

[Tamera952]

Why don’t you ask some? Instead of making round-about 3rd party judgements about it from dubious sources? I know quite a bunch that are much more happy & perfectly content with their transition — why wouldn’t you celebrate that? You think they’re all crazy or mistaken?

[Dargil]

I believe it is a form of mental illness... gender dysphoria. Like Feminism, it is a cultural caused disease.

[Asker]

Gender dysphoria really does exist but 1) it’s extremely rare 2) even if a person has it that doesn’t mean they should embrace it.

Most of these people have other major problems that have absolutely nothing to do with gender dysphoria. However society is incentivizing this insanity.

[Tamera952]

That’s just simply not true & generally ignorant. Equating that with ‘feminism’ as a cultural disease shows that you are for sure not qualified to weigh in on this issue.

[Tamera952]

Says you…. But what do you know? …. How is society incentivizing this? Like it’s fashionable or fun to be trans? Gimme a break. Why would anyone choose this difficult & life altering transition if they weren’t serious about it? It’s a real thing. I don’t think you’re qualified to weigh in on this.

[Gina66]

No, it's a genetic defect. Historically such defects were typically caused by inbreeding. People born with such defects tend to have enlarged pineal glands, leading to chemical/hormonal imbalances which cause sexual perversions and clinical depression.

But since the 1970s the food chain in the modern world has increasingly been contaminated with soy bean toxins. The phyto-oestrogen mimicking female hormones is added to infant milk formulas. The result is a completely un-natural generation of queer kids.

[PatriceONeal]

Women voting majority for the bullshit, another example of women being the problem in civilized society, they vote for the DUMBEST SHIT.

[Asker]

What’s worse is you now have some young men believing in this insanity. Men are generally harder to brainwash when it comes to this radical propaganda given that are logical brains (accurately) make no sense of it.

However we do have one huge Freudian weakness and that’s the need to have women interested in us.

Leftist influencers know that if a young man has views that are unpopular with young women he will likely stay silent about it around them or worse even change his values thinking it makes his date-ability go up. That’s what we see going on right now with some young men. It’s sickening.

[Tamera952]

Sounds like your ‘mind’ is already made up. Why even ask such a loaded question if you were already so sure of what’s what? You sound like some kind of fool…”men are easier to brainwash” …. huh? I don’t know what the heck you think leftist influencers have to do with your original question, but you for sure need to branch out & meet some trans people or get your head out your ass.

[Jesuswasahue]

90% seems high but for sure a small percentage are just confused or following the trends. There’s a huge autism spectrum issue here too especially in high school aged people.

[KrakenAttackin]

Noz the "trans movement" is designed to be a distraction from real issues facing our society.

[Tamera952]

Really? Everything is not a conspiracy! Who “designed it” and what issues do you believe it is obfuscating? (This aught to be good)

[KrakenAttackin]

@Tamera952 Why do you think the sudden obsession with tranny's appeared? Tranny's make up what 0.001 % of the population but all of a sudden we need to hail them as heroes?

Only the Wokeys believe that the lefts obsession with tranny rights is organic. These people are seriously mentally ill.

[Anonymous]

It's a mental illness that the communists are exploiting.

[Tamera952]

Really? What communists? You should really not comment Ms. Anonymous asshole

[OddBeMe]

I don’t know. It’s probably a mental issue. But one that doesn’t hurt anyone. Just like depression, most of the time.

So treatment could be: LET THE TRANNIES DO WHAT THEY WANT

[Anonymous]

There is nothing natural about it.

[Tamera952]

Really how so?

[Opinion Owner]

@Tamera952 Having surgery and taking drugs to "transition" to the opposite sex from what nature created you as is the opposite of natural, obviously.

[Tamera952]

So is that the case for all surgeries & taking ‘drugs’? Or just when a persons sex is involved? …And that’s any less natural than having a tumor removed or corrective surgery when ‘nature’ created you as such? Your argument is a logical fallacy…. a ridiculous appeal to nature - like if something is 'natural' it is therefore valid, justified, inevitable, good or ideal. That’s bullshit.

[Opinion Owner]

@Tamera952 Lol, sure thing sis... er, dude.

[Tamera952]

Well that’s stupid, cause I wish you’d try to think through & hammer out why you hold such erroneous beliefs, but instead you just try to taunt me. Errr…sis, dude, bro, whatever the fuck

[Tamera952]

I wish you’d respond to my rebuttal about surgeries and drugs in general

[Agagagagaga]

@Tamera952 No one wants to respond to a trannie. You’re obviously one.