Do you support the normalization of Transgenderism in modern day society?

[Physics-Man]

Yes

No

[Daniela1982]

I think it is totally disgusting. Especially for kids who are not old enough to even know who they are yet or what is involved in the process, or what the life long consequences might be.

[PoliteSpeaker]

Yeah well you're pretty disgusting too according to your ex's. Looking like Rachel for ESPN

[Daniela1982]

@PoliteSpeaker Ha! I have no exes so neener neener!

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Gender differences manifest themselves before the onset of puberty.

[007kingifrit]

@Ad_Quid_Orator so? identity doesn't. they don't know what they are

by the way; its sex differences that manifest before puberty. gender is a pseudoscience that' s not real

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

@007kingifrit Differences in behavior associated with sex (gender) manifest before puberty.

[ClassyMe]

These pictures... that is blantant child abuse. No I don't support it because I believe in actual science not how you "feel".

[Aimée__LJ]

Science supports transgender people... So I guess you haven't actually read any research you're just basing this opinion off how you "feel".

[ElizaPam]

I feel like a woman. I’m not going to ignore how I feel and pretend to be a man because of my chromosomes

[ClassyMe]

@Aimée__LJ 1) When you are born you're either a girl or boy. You're not a dragon or anything like that. If people truly want to be trans then okay but don't bring children into it. That for sure crosses the line!

[ClassyMe]

@Aimée__LJ Okay then I identify as a queen. My pronouns are "my lady/your majesty" and I would like to be addressed as such. Thank you!

[ClassyMe]

@ElizaPam You were not born a woman and you also cannot do certain things only women biologically are capable of doing. Now, the key word is "feel" just because you feel something doesn't mean that you are. Your chromosomes don't lie and that's just the truth. That being said, I know that there are certain burdens that come with being trans I get it.

[Aimée__LJ]

Science also backs gender being separate from sex.

Again you are going off how you feel.

[007kingifrit]

@Aimée__LJ no science does not support transgenderism. its just many fake scientists have the title of scientist nowadays

real science requires things to be observed. gender can't be observed, thus gender is not science

[ElizaPam]

@007kingifrit I can be observed

[007kingifrit]

@ElizaPam yes but that's observing your behavior NOT observing the concept of gender itself

like. i can say i see ghosts. and you can observe me saying that. but is that studying ghosts?

[Daniela1982]

@Aimée__LJ Science supports a lot of shit, like things/places mentioned in the Bible but no one believes that. Science says anything that the people who pays their salaries say is true. Or else there would be a whole lot of them unemployed or working at Walmart. I have no idea how science can go along with transgenderism.

[Aimée__LJ]

@Daniela1982 science doesn't support that. Infact science debunks those types of claims

[007kingifrit]

@Aimée__LJ ok you're not a real scientist and you talk about science like an idiot

science is not a god approving or disapproving of actions. you must always explain WHICH science supports something, its methods, and how often it was reproduced

science must be observable. gender is not observable, therefore it can never be science

[Aimée__LJ]

@007kingifrit I'm a psychologist. There are countless scientific studies about transgender people and physical evidence showing it is not just a mental disorder.

[007kingifrit]

@Aimée__LJ over 75% of published psychology studies are fake www.theguardian.com/.../study-delivers-bleak-verdict-on-validity-of-psychology-experiment-results

give the same patient to multiple therapists/psychiatrists and you will get different diagnosis, this has been a well known problem for over 100 years and has never gone away. This paper tries to offer some non objective criteria to fix it but I’m only sharing it because it admits the phenomenon www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2990547/

being a psychologist is exactly WHY you are so uneducated on science. psychology is a pseudoscience with poor methodology

all studies you have on genderism will fall into 1 of 2 flaws. external or internally invalid methodology

1. the studies will either rely on self reported information or other methods that are not science. asking people to report information is not valid science
2. the studies will observe something but not be able to say with certainty that the things they are observing is what they claim it is (brain scan studies fall into this category)

there are ZERO studies that support the existence of trannies that don't fall into these 2 categories. not one. go on and try

[Aimée__LJ]

@007kingifrit I'm not talking about psychological studies.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7477289/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10843193/
www.jsm.jsexmed.org/.../pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19341803/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18980961/

[007kingifrit]

@Aimée__LJ not a single study you just listed isn't covered in my source of 100 studies. or uses methods that i didn't already explain were fake

[Aimée__LJ]

@007kingifrit sorry was unaware you were a scientist? Where did you graduate from?

[Aimée__LJ]

What field? Please do tell 🙃

[vald9inches]

From what I understand biological sex and gender are two different things one is rooted in science the other is rooted in society and culture. For example a man can have feminine traits and a woman can have masculine traits like a tomboy.

[Inbox]

@vald9inches That's partially true. Gender is a societal interpretation, but I believe their are biological reasons for it. You don't need to be an MMA fighter like myself to understand that the average male is physically stronger and bigger than the average female. In the old days, when technology was limited, men often did the heavy lifting. Moreover, men and women are similar in many ways, but also very different.

Men and women bring different energies and it's those opposites that often attract us to each other. For example, what happens if I put a baby or a puppy in front of a girl? I too go nuts when I see a puppy or baby despite being a big MMA fighter. In other words, women are TYPICALLY nurturers and healers, men being more or less, meat shields for their family as harsh as that is and are builders of society.

Anyway, gender is NOT disconnected from sex. Naturally, I'm casting a HUGE net over 7 billion people and there will always be exceptions, but historically speaking, when you have cultures across Earth that have had NO contact with each other and 98% of the time the gender roles have remained the same more or less, you begin to realize that gender roles exist for a reason.

[Aimée__LJ]

@Inbox a lot of societies have a 3rd gender. That is not masculine nor feminine.

[Inbox]

@Aimée__LJ Name those societies.

[vald9inches]

@Inbox I am sure there are some female mma fighters that could beat you in the ring or outside of it lol are they rare? Possibly but that would be debatable... So gender roles are not so concrete and why should they be? Everyone is going to be good and bad at something so just let everyone do what they are naturally good at. We don't live in the stone age anymore lol

[Aimée__LJ]

@Inbox native Hawaiians, Tahitians, some native American tribes recognize 4 genders, tribes in Australia, New Zealand, Madagascar, Peru, Nigeria, Indonesia India and many many more places. Gender roles as we know them are very much a westernized thing.

[ElizaPam]

@Aimée__LJ I’m not a 3rd gender please never call me that thanks

[Aimée__LJ]

@ElizaPam oh I didn't. Just stating that gender isn't so black and white as people think it is.

[ElizaPam]

@Aimée__LJ there’s really only 2 genders in my opinion

[Aimée__LJ]

@ElizaPam that's fine... I'm literally not talking to you or about you, or even about my own personal opinion. I'm unsure why you feel the need to comment on this?

[ElizaPam]

@Aimée__LJ I am a transgender woman who transitioned as a young teen I want to help people understand so they don’t say mean things only the staff does that 😔

[Aimée__LJ]

@ElizaPam nobody is saying mean things... Just explaining to inbox that gender is not the same in every society. 😊

[ElizaPam]

@Aimée__LJ I know OP said teenagers shouldn’t be trans so I wanted to make my voice heard

[007kingifrit]

@Aimée__LJ but sex roles... are the same in every society

[Aimée__LJ]

@007kingifrit gender* and obviously not as I said some societies have more than two genders because the roles aren't the same. Tribes where there are males who don't want to hunt and would rather weave fabric or take care of kids. A lot of societies are very accepting of gender diversity. It's fucked up that western society is so against it.

[ChrisMaster69]

@Aimée__LJ it was not always the case in the west, the Vikings are a fair example of it.

www.getrealcambridge.com/.../

Within Celtic society and archeology there have been various things getting rewritten. This is mainly due to historical archeological work, where a skeleton that was originally classed as female was reclassified as a man due to spears and other weapons, ditto a male skeleton without weapons and with other items such as pottery , weaving was classified as female. Druids, Priests etc were also a bit of a conundrum as a number were castrati and there was transvestism present.

If history overwrites homosexuality in the past, anything else is also painted over.

historyofyesterday.com/the-third-gender-existed-since-the-dawn-of-time-5f9765956ac1

www.hrc.org/.../seven-things-about-transgender-people-that-you-didnt-know

talesoftimesforgotten.com/.../

[Daniela1982]

@Aimée__LJ Science knows shit. That is why the world is so polluted and going down the tubes. Science has no power to stop any of it.

[vald9inches]

@Daniela1982 um no you actually have that extremely backwards lmfao thats the work of politicians and corporations and capitalism in general that is polluting the world. Science and scientists will be our only hope to fix that problem

[ElizaPam]

@Daniela1982 I feel like a woman on the inside, always have always will. I don't care what you want to call me. Don't expect me to deny my true feelings to appease you and everyone else. I will never be ok with being covered in hair and having being arms and a receding hairline and I will never want to use my penis sexually. I just wish you could not be so mean.

[ElizaPam]

Veiny

[007kingifrit]

@Aimée__LJ no SEX roles are the same in every society. not gender. gender isn't real

and don't bring up obscure tribes that CLAIM to have a 3rd "gender" they are backwards inferior savages on the edge of extinction specifically because their ways are failures. we shouldn't be trying to mimic them. i would argue they are almost not the same species

transgenderism is a religion not a science. gender cannot be observed regardless of how they claim to feel.

[007kingifrit]

@ElizaPam but your feelings don't matter. our feelings can be wrong

[ElizaPam]

@007kingifrit You have evidence of our gender by us. Who would put all the time, money, and effort into making themselves a target for hate, discrimination, and ridicule by altering their body to resemble the opposite sex? No less the sex that's weaker, more vulnerable, objectified, and still considered inferior even today? Don't you think there's a reason why I wanted to be a girl my entire childhood then transitioned into one at 14 due to male puberty making me suicidal and making it impossible for me to continue convincing myself I'm a boy? I used to literally tell myself that when I hit puberty these feelings would go away but they got worse. If my theory about why I'm the way I am is a lie then tell me yours hoss.

[007kingifrit]

@ElizaPam you cannot give evidence verbally

lots of people would rather be hated than ignored. that's a bad question on your part

[ElizaPam]

@007kingifrit well. I don't take kind to being called a liar hoss.

[TheUniqueOne96]

Well, I support people's right to transition if they wish to do so, as long as they're making that decision on their own and are old enough to do so, like 16-18 at least, I don't agree with raising a child as 'gender neutral' or something like that and confusing them.

I don't believe a person can change everything if transitioning, so I don't agree with biological men for example, competing against female athletes, at least at a professional level, I don't think that's right.

Trans people need to accept that not everyone will view them as the opposite to what they are from a biological standpoint and I totally disagree with hiding it in the dating world, because if nothing else, why base a potential relationship off of a lie.

They should also be classed as trans too, so people can decide for themselves, whether or not they consider them to be 'real', suitable for dating, etc.

Personally, I'm a strong believer in coming across in a nice way and trying to look at things from the other person's side and whilst I do believe you are what you are from a biological POV, I don't agree with random people harassing them or beating them up or anything, not that I'm accusing anyone or doing or encouraging that - a person can't help how they feel inside and I'm sure that if it was a choice, we'd all be comfortable with our biological gender, so I do feel for trans people in a way, being confused and all, but I do wonder what makes them feel that way, like what makes a man feel like he's a woman inside and vice versa.

The whole gender-neutral thing though, as well as the 73 different gender thing though, that, I really don't get, I mean if you're going to give people identities based off of what they feel, where do you draw the line, I saw a video a while ago about some point like that, where someone was talking about a man or woman identifying as disabled and a man identifying as a toddler or something and asking to be adopted, surely we've got to draw the line somewhere, otherwise I identify as a billionaire and will therefore set up a gofundme so people can send me some money.

[DJB72]

As a child I didn't "fit" the typical picture of a boy.

I enjoyed ballet, music, art. I was at home in a kitchen (still am!). I hated sport. Especially soccer, which in England was heresy. I wasn't aggressive. I even made daisy-chains from flowers while my co-students were playing sports during playtime (recess).

These days I would have been told I was a girl in a boy's body. Since I have only ever been attracted to girls, I'd have been told I was a lesbian in a boy's body, not just a boy with a creative & soft side.

Things I've been able to learn thanks to my softer, creative side:

I can build with wood. The skills I learned interlacing daisy stems can be applied to timber beams.

My muscle mass & bone density is higher than average. That allowed me to survive covid and be walking within a month of having my leg amputated. The only thing preventing me from running is my current prosthetic won't allow it, so I'm hiking mountain trails. The leg was amputated in October.

Normalising this trend is another step in the destruction of Western civilisation. How long before all sexual deviants are saying they just "identify" in a different way. I've already read several articles where a pedophile is claiming they "identify" as a child as their defence. It's only a matter of time before a judge, or worse a jury, accepts that bullshit and a child rapist walks away without as much as a slap on the wrist for destroying a child's body.

Genetic transgenderism, where a male body on the outside has an X-X chromosome or an individual who externally presents as female has X-Y chromosomes is a different issue. In those cases the external physical characteristics of the individual don't match the genitals that develop inside them. That's an actual medical condition where surgical treatment may - and only may - be relevant.

Otherwise maybe enough people will "identify" as sane and find a way to turn things round before we destroy ourselves.

[Anonymous]

Maybe I'm old school but I will give an example, majority of my family are women. I have 3 older sisters and no brothers and my father was absent and never seemed to care about me. So you would think a kid like me around all that estrogen, my sisters having posters of guys on their wall, girly music playing and blah blah blah would make trans back in the 90s. But I truly believe little boys and little girls have this innate quality that is distinctive. We sit here and talk about male masculinity or femininity, but for boys how is masculinity a thing? A lot of boys are short and skinny, it's not until we get older where a guy's voice will change, hair starts growing, hormones start raging, muscle builds, we get taller that separates us as young men from girls. The reason why I brought up that I was in a very girly household is that my sisters never encouraged me to watch sports, or watch X-Men or other super hero shows, or play video games geared towards boys or wear clothes meant for boys or play physical sports that girls would not. I truly believe boys have something embedded inside of them to be boys and it shows. I dont agree with this system of pushing this trans idea on kids because what gets normalized through the media and government rules will make children confused on what path to follow. I never will accept this LGBTQ ideology that is being forced on to kids.

Anyone who disputes me and says "it's not being forced", please it is. I've seen LGBTQ supporters seem like they are loving and caring when in reality they aren't, they are quite destructive with their behaviour. I'm very different than how many people act on this site or society in general. I am not a fan of capitalism or communism, I am not a left supporter, nor am I a right supporter. I just vote liberal during the elections because they tend to be more willing to give money for the public in times of need. But I know what the monetary system is about as well but that's another topic itself. I know when people read my comment they think I'm an idiot, who doesn't have his life together because I am not choosing sides. Why should I? If we talk about free will or freedom of speech that is restricted and I don't mean being racist or sexist. I mean through an economic, political frame, why should I accept what is normalized when this world seems more divided than ever where we are on the brink of another Great Depression and World War as economists and political scientists have warned. Capitalism is evil because it exploits works for maximum gain, but you know what China is a communist country and they're practices towards workers are really no different either, yet we play this tug and war game of capitalism vs communism.

When are people going to realize, wow we are being brain washed to accept something that is not working where millions and millions and millions of people have died because of these ideologies, if the system worked why would there be blood shed? Now the dangerous tool is this LGBTQ agenda to be pushed on kids, we are trying to change the sexuality about something. Kids at a young age aren't looking to date or have the mindset of an 18 year old but regardless of course modern day people even on GAG will read this and disagree with me completely. They will look at this and think my answer is offensive when all I am saying is questioning the system, am I allowed to question the system? If I can't then no one should talk about freedom of speech or democracy. In Europe for example they want to ban the hijab when girls want to wear the hijab, isn't that discrimination? Yet western countries label Islam/Muslims as oppressors? People should read history even before Islam emerged and people will hear/read/see that oppression and beheadings have happened wayyyy before religions started on earth.

[Lliam]

I believe in treating the 0.005% to 0.014% of males and 0.002% to 0.003% of females who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria with respect. I'm okay with such people deciding to medically transition once they are mature adults. I even know three such people. They are really nice, low key people and they're not pushing any weirdo agendas.

But I vehemently oppose the radical LGBTQ agenda of pushing alt-sexuality and non-binary bullshit on impressionable school children or even teens. Let that shit be a college elective. I absolutely oppose transition treatment for non-adults. I support psychological counseling for adolescents who are uncomfortable with their bodies or confused about their gender. I absolutely oppose the idea of allowing men who claim to be women to access women's only facilities or compete in women's athletics.

I support equal legal rights for homosexuals. I think people should be able to love and marry whom they want, and I don't believe in policing sexual practices between consenting adults. But radical LGBTQs are actually creating backlash against the progress that had been made in accepting homosexuality and even gender dysphoria. The agenda is threatening to tear society apart.

[ChrisMaster69]

I debated answering as was not really sure how to put it, however…

one of my close friends (within my social group) is trans, post lock down I went out on a ‘date’ with her as she had been stuck home for months on her own. Great day out.

anyhow I am very much of th opinion that people should be allowed to develop, grow, learn about sexuality in a factual manner without bigotry or extremism from either side of the divide. They should have the ability to express themselves, show who they feel they are and do this without hate.

I believe any early years should be only via professional medical and psychological advice.

the person should however have resources, advice and support available.

The entire sexuality things is not going away, it’s shocking that there is still hate and violence against gay men in 2021, this just shows what a hard route Transgender has to tread.

Just because someone does not agree with something, does not mean they must hate it, nor should they be forced to love it, there is a choice of being neutral.

I agree with both @ChocoBat and @Aimée__LJ and @Ez-Bri-Z

[Anon621]

I believe transgenderism is a completely new concept to many people and obviously there are plenty of reasons why someone may or may not support transgenderism. For me personally, I support the normalization of transgenderism because the world that everyone Iives in is constantly evolving with new information and new ideas. This has been true throughout different generations. If you really think about it, an argument can be made that Boomers were the first generation that began to question traditional sex roles. Different generations had different concepts and different ideas that were trying to become normal and obviously were highly controversial. Think of it this way: many people debated the existence of condoms back when condoms were becoming popular in the 1960s and now most young people see condoms as a go to protector. Who knows what will happen many years from now when human society looks back on the transgenderism movement but in my honest opinion, I'm glad these issues are finally being brought to light. For me, transgenderism is essentially the changing of the guard: its the new controversial topic that most people have very divided opinions on with completely new information available just like with condoms back in the 1960s. For me personally I support transgenderism because of the change in culture. Its important to realize that questioning yourself or considering a change in gender is now the new culture. My entire self concept is based upon change and its important to recognize as someone who technically is a gen z even though I classify myself as a Millenial due to being close to the cutoff birth year; its important to realize that transgenderism will become normal over time due to the many factors that I mentioned before which is why I support the normalization because change occurs every day whether we want the change to occur or not

[pjf1958]

I agree that society should, and will incorporate the non-heterosexual community with full inclusion. But, right or wrong we must resist the urge to do it arbitrarily, and quickly. I know that I probably appear to be an old, narrow-minded, fool. That very well may be. However, I still feel that it will take at least a full generation to acclimate our society to completely incorporate this new lifestyle. We cannot be persuaded to expedite this process or we could face an unexpected backlash which could result in a much longer time frame.

[JustAnj]

I think kids should just be kids and I thought by now adults would have learned to kick off from labeling each other based off what someone seems to do or act like.

It's honestly immature to constantly use labels just cause you think it helps.

If you are a man into things and have emotions that would be considered feminine, your just a man.

If you are a woman considered to enjoy what is considered male activities and emotions, you are a woman.

That's it.

The fact that we continue to label others in yo make up a line a different types of people is wrong because this is not a healthy identity. You need to love who you are as you are and be respectful of others as they are. Kids don't need to grow up with labels over their heads and parents who can not fathom the idea of allowing their children to love themselves however they may come to be. So just let kids be and learn to respect yourself and others.

[420Rachel]

If that's how an adult identifies and is comfortable being transgender, non-binary, attack helicopter, I don't care at all and will gladly befriend and support anyone through their identity discovery/journey. Children on the other hand should NOT be encouraged to be trans, take hormones, etc. If a child claims that they are transgender or whatever let them grow into that and let them figure out who they are on their own. Parents should not be dressing their little boys as girls and vice versa. I don't care how progressive you are, leave children alone and let them figure out what they identify as on their own. Be supportive of course but don't push or entertain this behavior in one direction or another until their old enough to truly understand and comprehend who they are.

[007kingifrit]

if you let it into adult behavior it will inevitably pollute children also

gender is a religion not a science and anyone who claims to be trans just isn't. they always have other problems that could be fixed and they would stop trying to be something they aren't. its escapism.

nobody is really capable of knowing themselves. and taking self identity seriously is just not helpful

[420Rachel]

Gender dysphoria is a real diagnosable condition though. I'm not talking about people who just "feel" like or "think" that they'd like to be the opposite gender, I'm talking about the full blown mental condition that's been diagnosed by a medical professional. Do those people not deserve to feel more comfortable with themselves? Yes I know that one cannot "truly" change their biological sex but if it helps someone who is suffering mentally then I don't see the problem with it. Many people with gender dysphoria end up with severe depression and end up either suicidal or go through with the act and end their lives, especially if they are unable to get hormonal treatment and/or surgery. If it can potentially save a life then I'm for it. But I agree with you, some of the shit that comes from the far left is absolutely fucking bonkers. I'm really only talking about true "transgender" individuals.

[NicoletteXO]

While I certainly wouldn't vilify or discriminate against any transgender individual simply for going about their daily business, I think this is becoming a poisonous cult ideology, which is inveigling people who would not otherwise be that way inclined - especially children.

In the same way that I have nothing against gays or lesbians, but we must concede that their sexuality is not the "norm" in the sense that it is not the sexuality of the majority, transgenderism is not the norm either. It doesn't mean anyone should be vilified or oppressed, but it does mean that a vocal minority shouldn't attempt to bully the rest of us into becoming mouthpieces for their thing. Like - you do your thing, we'll let you get on with that, and you let us get on with our thing.

[pjf1958]

Many of you are too young to remember, or you weren't even born yet. But, in the early 1970's there was a lot of violent protest against the forced busing of minority kids to schools in more affluent neighborhoods. The premise was just. However, the execution led to tragedy because the public wasn't ready for it. If they had gotten the public involved in the decision making process, they could have created a temporary solution, while a permanent one was being created. There is a parallel between that and the current gay/transgender contraversy.

[sage2021]

I have heard of kids 5 years old getting gender reassignment surgery. When I was growing up in the 50s, 60's and 70's, none of this transgender stuff wasn't even heard of. This is something new in our society. And don't force us straight people to like it, because we are STRAIGHT and you need to respect our right to be straight. Get it?

[TallAnon]

I was with you for the first part, but being straight has nothing to do with being transgender.

[sage2021]

@TallAnon then would you care explain your statement and enlighten us once and for all?

[Arcreactor81]

My guy is right. In no way is being trans have anything to do with being straight.
And just "enlighten" us on how you're being forced to like Transgenderism and your rights are being violated?
*facepalm*

[sage2021]

@Arcreactor81 I wanted to know why transgender has nothing to do with being straight. I don't get the whole transgender thing, but I am glad I am straight that's a fact! So, tell us...

[TallAnon]

Being straight is about your sexuality.
A transgender person can be straight, gay, bi and whatever else they made up recently. Either from the viewpoint of their original or new gender.

For example, a dude can be straight, transition to a woman and still like women or be gay, transition and still like men. It literally has nothing to do with sexuality.

Gender != Sexuality

[sage2021]

@TallAnon but they do have sex so it is about Sexuality. Do some go through with transition and not have sex? Or eventually have sex when they are old enough? Cause for me, being straight, I know I am going to have sex only with a real 100% male that has never taken an hormones or had any kind of operation. Being straight isn't complicated for us.

[TallAnon]

Everyone has sex, me having a tattoo doesn't make tattoos sexual because I may have sex with one on at some point, that makes no sense.

Whether you consider a straight man transitioning to a woman, when it still likes women gay or straight is just semantics. Words are irrelevant, our language has limitations.

In easier terms; What he wants to fuck doesn't change because he chops his dick off.

[sage2021]

@TallAnon you didn't have to be so crude and vulgar with your explanation ok? You can say penis and sex, it's ok to do that.

[TallAnon]

I really don't care for that. You got my point.

[007kingifrit]

@TallAnon if a man pretends to be a woman and then dates women i guess he's still straight

[kyleelyn199723]

I accept it as long as people know their place. The problem with the transgender community today is they can’t accept actual reality over their created fantasy and it gets to be way too much for any person to handle. I liked it back in the early 2000s where transgendered women would cross dress and still call them selves transgendered. No need for the 50 genders and overall confusion of what gender you actually are

[pjf1958]

This whole movement is going way to fast. To force children to deal with this without the parents consent is wrong. All this is going to accomplish, is a deep mistrust between parents and teachers. You cannot allow that kind of dynamic in the school without expecting inevitably, violent and tragic consequences. Eventually, some transgender kid is going to have a crush on some heterosexual male. If the other kids find out, then the public ridicule that the hetero kid will have to endure is unnecessary and dangerous. His reaction could lead to tragedy. Who ever is seriously considering this, should never be allowed to dictate school policy ever. A powder keg just waiting to be lit. A real solution, would be to segregate the gay, transgender kids into their own schools until they reach college.

[sawno]

No, its doing far more damage than it does things good.
If someone has gender disphoria and genuinely feels physically ill from their own body its a good thing they can transition and its a good thing they would be accepted as their new gender. But all this i have some traits from the other gender so now i am going to transition in hopes for acceptance of my gender role stuff has to stop. Its making the problems they have WORSE because now suddenly rather than embracing who you are you changed yourself to something you were not. And now suddenly you'd realize that the people willing to be your partner has vastly dwindled because the person who would have originally loved you for you is not going to fall for your transitioned self because they want a family. Its a very tragic life that is not better for anyone who would not experience physical distress otherwise.

[VanillaSalt]

It risks someone pushing it onto our kids. It risks someone forcing rules on me. So no. I was never anti lgbtq or whatever the damn acronym was. But I noticed as they got more rights suddenly they demanded more and more to be equal.


With so many identities out there idc about any of them anymore. I’m not post of any of these groups. I’m alone. Just me. My job. My pets. If I die living my current life it was be a depressing life at the end but I can think of a worse way to die. I could die being forced to accept some rule stating I have to refer to you as a god damn oak tree. I don’t like being told what to do so I unplugged and I’ll live away from society as much as possible.

[IAMNathanael]

I don't support it but I'm mostly indifferent. Nothing should stop grown adults from living their lives how they want... certainly not me.

The thing that bothers is from the moment children say they think they're the opposite gender certain parents encourage them to keep going that way. Children don't know what they really want or what's good for them. Children's brains are still developing. Next thing you know they're given hormones that disrupt their growing. That's a huge decision not fit for kids to make and they may end up seriously regretting it once they've grown.

[Xylem1992]

Unpopular fact: Transgenderism is a mental disorder, classified as "gender dysphoria" in the American Psychiatric Association (APA).

We can not and should not say just let them be free. Because they are "extremely" susceptible to self harm.

There is of course the transgenders partaking in sport activities. The pickle here, is that after surgery and years of hormone therapy, Trigender females retain their superior muscle power giving the cis females an unfair competition.

There are also places that we want to reduce sexual tension, for example prisons or I don't know public restrooms. Placing transgenders in any of the existing structures, presents problems. Creating their own, presents even more.

[HugoThe2nd]

As opposed to denying what's clearly a real phenomenon?
Yes, of course I support the normalization of transgenderism.

Transgendered individuals are real and fundamentally no different from other members of the LGBT in that they are the proof of the fact that human sexual orientation and identity are separate from human biology.

It's disheartening to see that transgendered persons today still have to fight the same fight against ignorant people that non-heterosexual people have mostly won by now.
But I'm certain that reason and tolerance will eventually win over bigotry and ignorance.

[cryscrys1]

Ok where do I start ,
We like it or not they live among us! We like it or not they belong to humans tribe. We like it or not what can we do about it can you fix it?
They don’t bother me and you. We envy rich people we envy bright people we hate this and that we even hate straight people because they are dating cool people. Straight people are getting divorced every 16 minutes. Straight people abandon babies. Is our life going to get better if we don’t support transgenderism? I mean even questioning it is pointless and non existent we aren’t even meant to exist here forever to begin with. Just make those damn good memories as quick as you can and die happy because there is no time for questioning what to normalize or not…

[hellionthesagereborn]

Here is the thing, transgenderism is a natural occuring phenomenon. Its also not normal nor something to glorify. Its like color blindness, just because people are color blind doesn't mean we need to act like every one is color blind that their is no such thing as color vision and then push it on our children and claim they too are color blind. Most of this is just utter bullshit propaganda which ironically makes life far more difficult for the rare individual (less then 1% of the human population) who actually is transgender.

So the issue isn't transgenderism, its not even transgenders, its the ideological belief structure that is trying to use this condition to destroy gender norms, identity, and relations.

[Floppy2112]

I do not support the degradation of men and the encouragement enabling of mental disorders. Especially this stange form of Munchausen by proxy that seem to be going on. Little kids won't do this to themselves. Somebody has to do it for them. Who? The parents with a whacked ideology ramming critical gender theory down their kids throats. It all makes me sick to my stomach. It's just a political weapon, but it causes real human damage.
The chances of actual, real gender dysphoria is really, really low. the amount of it being displayed is like 10 standard deviations above the norm. Too many people are living lies. And the truth is going to crash down really hard when it can no longer be restrained.