Ie: should trans girls be allowed to use the women’s bathroom?
Should trans women be allowed to play women’s sports?
Also the opposite too?
I support universal respect, first and foremost.
I support approaching these issues RESPECTFULLY, and with equal concern for an agreeable outcome for all parties involved.
I think trans people should be able to live out in the open and not have to hide themselves for anyone else’s supposed “benefit” or “protection” (lmao). I don’t think they should be viewed or presented as a “threat”, to anyone, including children. Nobody who wasn’t naturally wired to be trans is going become trans due to outside influence, that’s fucking crazy.
Due to having a more binary history, socially, some issues arise like restrooms or sports participation. Restrooms don’t bother me as much, because it’s just a restroom. If we lived out in the wild still, we’d all just be relieving ourselves in the open, without shame or embarrassment…. the concept of restroom privacy is manufactured, not natural. Feeling awkward about the opposite sex knowing we were relieving ourselves is what this is all about, it’s not a safety issue.
Listen, I remember my mom coming out of a food court bathroom at a mall, and she was upset because a man was in there and peeked over the stall at her. That was in the 80s, well before trans people were even on my radar. The problem there was just that a guy was a pervert.
Trans people aren’t inherently perverted, so there’s no reason to assume they’d be up to no good, very possibly amongst women who they might not even be sexually attracted to in the first place. I suppose you could still be a trans-woman lesbian, but that doesn’t seem to be the norm. And it’s not like this guy peeping my mom was wearing a dress and walked in stealthily, I think my mom was alone, the guy poked his head in to be sure, and then did his perverted shit. That was just a straight guy, presumably, no disguises.
So I don’t think it will lend itself to an increase in anything like that. Women being safe in bathrooms is irrelevant to the presence of trans-women. I don’t think anyone is going to become trans solely for ease of peeping, and like I said, elimination of trans-women would do nothing to protect against the already existing problem of heterosexual male perverts. Anyone can throw on a dress as a disguise if they had bad intentions, that doesn’t make a person trans. And I think it’s disrespectful, irresponsible, and misinformed to suggest otherwise, that trans people have a proclivity towards perversion.
I have many, many questions about participation in sports. I think that needs to be studied, through various levels and various sports, and we need to have a (key word) RESPECTFUL conversation about the results. Concessions and honest admissions will need to be made on both sides. The answer may even be flat out “no”, and that’s fine, as long as it’s arrived at and handled RESPECTFULLY, especially for the trans-women athletes (who it should be noted are EXTREMELY rare relative to the amount of noise made about the topic, and not that pressing of an overall problem, numbers-wise). Honestly, it feels like the sports conversation is abused by transphobes as a semi-legitimate way to give trans people a hard time, for the sake of transphobia, not the sake of the integrity of female athletics, so I have a hair-trigger when it comes to dismissing clearly unserious and disingenuous debaters on the topic.
OMG!! Such a thoughtful and well supported point of view.
I totally agree with your points.
Thanks for taking the time to respond and being a decent human and showing basic care and support for all genders and sexual orientations. ❤️
Your either delusional and in denial or a paid shill pushing the agenda. Of course predators would camouflage themselves in order to isolate and get close to their prey. You'd be a fool not to recognize that. Second the y chromosome gives the man even one on estrogen an unfair strength advantage over someone whom only possesses the x chromosome. Should Trans be respected yes but anything they do to their own body is not something that bestows upon them the right to violate or appropriate the space and rights of others.
@uncleBobbyb77 Shiiiiittttttt, I wish I could get paid for wasting my time trying to correct the ignorant😂
My point is that a “predator” doesn’t have to be trans to disguise themselves, and they could’ve done so at any point in history. And I would reject the premise that trans-women have some kind of universal or prevalent desire to peep biological women in the first place. That’s a straight guy’s game. A straight guy in costume and a trans-woman are not the same thing, period. If you want to just have four types of bathrooms instead of two, that’s fine with me, but the bigger point is that trans people barely exist in the first place, numbers-wise it’s an absolutely infinitesimal amount of humans we’re even talking about, and detractors talk like society is overrun with trans people. I’ve met like four trans people in my lifetime, so chill the fuck out, lmao.
As for sports…. here's the biggest thing, and I say it as a passionate lifelong athlete: sports don’t fucking matter in life. It’s purely entertainment and recreation. The fact that we’ve manufactured a handful of athletic avenues that can be lucrative doesn’t change that sports are inconsequential to the outcomes of our lives and society. We shouldn’t have millionaire athletes and athletic scholarships to college, that’s focusing on the wrong priorities. Or we can have them, that’s fine, but we can’t treat that like some inalienable right that we need to protect at all costs. Nothing about America 100 years from now will have anything to do with the supposed integrity of athletics, particularly of the female variety. This is simply focusing our energy and attention on the wrong shit.
@uncleBobbyb77 And not for nothing, but after hearing right wingers’ jokes and disdain for the WNBA or the U. S. Women’s Soccer Team, calling Britney Griner or the Williams sisters all kinds of derogatory shit because of their physical builds, I find it HIGHLY disingenuous that all of a sudden, people who aren't even female athletes or the parents of them, are up in arms about the integrity of women’s sports? I’m supposed to believe that’s genuine, and not just legitimately-cloaked transphobia?
Also, let’s play a game and name trans-women athletes. I’ll go first: that swimmer, Lia Thomas. Who’s next? Anyone? ANYONE? Thought so. Not saying there’s NO ONE, but the amount of anger about this idea is so wildly disproportionate to the actual occurrence. You’re making something that happens extremely infrequently one of you Top 5 political issues, and that’s crazy and nonsensical.
“Respecting” people means allowing them to live their lives without harassment. I’m totally open to the conversation, and I’m even probably on your side of “No” as the broad answer…. but I’m arriving at it respectfully and with genuine consideration, not just branding some already-persecuted demographic as villainous people with bad intentions, leading to further demonization they don’t need. Just because people are uncomfortable with something doesn’t mean that it’s wrong.
@uncleBobbyb77 perfectly said!!!
@Julie4 thanks, Julie. Life is usually nuanced, and I just try to call life how I see it🤷♂️🙂
Thanks, Caley. Endeavoring to be a decent human should come standard, it’s a shame that me trying to do so is even remarkable
@WhiteSteve
So you're fine with trans "women" using female facilities.
Despite there's been an increasing rise of trans "women" who are sexual predators, pedophiles, rapists, etc. using the fact that they are "women" to access female only things such as washrooms, etc. Just last year or year before there were cases of trans "women" being moved to female only prisons and well duh... raping the female prisoners.
They're men when they have a dick, until sliced off they're not women.
@PetLover24 ok, but…. what’s “an increasing rise?” What are the specific stats? Who collected the data? If there was one last year and two this year, that’s an “increasing rise.” And like I said before…. any straight guy can throw on a dress and wig, but that doesn’t make them trans, and as I told before, my mother got peeped 35+ years ago by a plain-clothes man, so it’s not like any of this is new.
Don’t get me wrong, any sexual assault or peeping or anything of that nature is dead wrong….. but do you have any idea how many women are assaulted or violated in some way by BIOLOGICAL MEN? One study found SIXTY-THREE PERCENT of women who have been raped, as an example, never report it in their lifetime. I hope you have way, way, WAYYYYYYYYYY more energy for THAT issue as you do for this one. More women were probably sexually assaulted by biological men YESTERDAY than the amount of women assaulted by trans people in HISTORY. Marinate on those numbers for a while before you go pointing fingers.
@PetLover24 This is the dishonest, ignorant bullshit I see these days. It’s being done with immigrants and crime too. So, so, so, SO MUCH MORE crime coming from native-born Americans, but we’re worried about the much lower rate of crime coming from immigrants. Most abortions are performed in the first trimester, but detractors mischaracterize late-term abortions as being frequent and equivalent to infanticide, even claiming they birth the baby first. If you believe that one…. holy shit🤦♂️😂 And now this, picking on trans people, who I wonder if there are even 50,000 of them in the country. But we talk like we’re overrun with them, and entire women’s sports teams are being displaced because of them.
Absolutely none of that is true, and it’s not even accidentally false, it’s PURPOSELY false, with the INTENT of fucking with specific people right wingers oppose whether they’re doing anything wrong or not, and it’s really just about the most disgusting phenomenon that I’ve seen out of Americans as a long time. Stop falsely demonizing entire groups of people based on your own ignorance and irrational fears.
@WhiteSteve - uneducated achieve nothing. Google it instead of the illegal drug dealer
@PetLover24 I’m not sure I understood this sentence🤔
@PetLover24 also, “uneducated?” I’m educated. What is your degree in? I’m guessing it’s not a BA in English🤔
@WhiteSteve - thanks for proving you're neither intelligent or educated. You lack the IQ after all to comprehend what I said.
As for your claims it's foreigners. www.theguardian.com/.../trans-woman-isla-bryson-found-guilty-rape-not-be-held-in-womens-prison-sturgeon
ONE of the MANY white trans "women" that have committed rape. Other cultures do NOT support trans people.
@PetLover24
“uneducated achieve nothing” — That is NOT a complete sentence in the English language. Uneducated “WHO” achieve nothing? What is the object of your statement? Or you could say “THE uneducated achieve nothing”, that would qualify…. but education means going to school and being formally taught, particularly at the collegiate level, and I’ve done that, so it’s erroneous to call me uneducated. One thing I never trust is people who tell me they’ve “done their own research”…. that’s usually a telltale sign of a conspiracy theorist, and the “research” just means finding some independent loon on the internet with no accreditation who espouses a belief similar to yours and has constructed a narrative that supports the idea that you wish was true.
It’s that entire gullible mentality that’s the reason America is where it is today. If your entire worldview is based upon “everything is a conspiracy, nothing is as it seems”, then you’re primed to believe ANYTHING, and these people you think are so awesome MANIPULATE you all into believing absolutely crazy shit.
Like I don’t know what’s going to happen by this time next week, but I guarantee SOMETHING will happen, and Trump and/or MAGA Republicans are going to take it and COMPLETELY mischaracterize it to basically boil down to “Kamala Harris is the worst presidential candidate of all time.” And it has nothing to do with Harris. WHOEVER WAS RUNNING, if that same hypothetical event occurs this week, they’d say “Biden is the worst candidate of all time!” , “Newsom is the worst candidate of all time!”, “Buttigieg is the worst candidate of all time!”, “Whitmer is the worst candidate of all time!”, “Shapiro is the worst candidate of all time!” There’s absolutely no honor or credibility among these people, they’ll say literally anything about anyone, because they know their supporters will believe it. It’s disgusting.
@PetLover24
To your second statement: “Google it instead of the illegal drug dealer”…. what is “it?” And we weren’t talking about any drug dealers at any point, so the “instead of” is nonsensical. This is why your statements were confusing. They’re incomplete, or vaguely worded and referencing topics we never touched upon. If you would like to introduce a new topic, simply take one or two sentences to articulate that so the person you’re talking to doesn’t wonder what the hell you’re talking about. Just a tip for better discourse👍
Also, “as for your claims it’s foreigners”…. I never even brought up the topic of foreigners, what and who are you talking about? You must be confusing me with another conversation. Your statement suggests that I currently blame some issue on foreigners that is in actuality attributable to trans people. Are we…. are we in the same conversation right now?🤔 You’re all over the place. I brought immigration up because it’s one of the many other things the right wing is being dishonest about for the sake of political gain. Other than that, it has no bearing on the trans issue. The point was just people are similarly lying about the behavior of both immigrants AND trans people.
Most of the migrants are not violent criminals; most trans-women are not rapists; most violent criminals ARE American, and most rapists ARE biological men. Fact, not opinion. The occurrence of violent crime from immigrants (both legal and illegal COMBINED) is LOWER than it is in homegrown Americans. The occurrence of rape perpetrated by trans-women is LOWER (much, MUCH lower) than rape perpetrated by biological men. This is incontestable fact.
@PetLover24
So it just seems a little strange that you’re so fired up about the smaller portions of people committing crimes than you are about the majority of the people committing the same crimes.
You’re showing me an article (link isn’t working for me), that ONE trans-woman prisoner raped a female prisoner. You only claim that it’s “one of many” and provide no evidence of this not being a rare and isolated incident. Maybe it’s something we’ll have to address in terms of incarceration policy, I don’t know. But you know WAY more female inmates are raped by BIOLOGICAL MALE guards, right?
That’s really my major point: trans people, based on what I’ve seen and heard, are Level 1 rapists, vs biological men, who are Level 99 rapists. That doesn’t mean we can determine all trans people are harmless or all biological men are threatening, but I’m just saying that, for someone who seems really gassed up about rape prevention (that’s a good thing👍), you really seem to have a specific perpetrator in mind, trans people, and the numbers just don’t show that there’s any prominent occurrence of trans-woman-perpetrated rape in America, and that the overwhelming majority is committed by heterosexual biological men.
It’s like if you lived in Miami, and ONE TIME you got a freak snowstorm, and you decide the city needs to completely winterize, invest heavily in a fleet of snow plows, change the insulation in all the homes, etc…. but really, your prominent threat is and always will be hurricanes. These are simply not significant and numerous threats you’re fearing.
And last…. odd that you specify WHITE trans women, and you seem to insinuate that only white people support it. That feels racially prejudiced…. are you even more specifically targeting only WHITE trans-women? I don’t know, that part feels unnecessary to the conversation, maybe you can explain yourself a little more there.
@WhiteSteve - you're an idiot, I even provided links to the rape by trans freaks.
@PetLover24 your link is working now, I read it.
That was an isolated incident, and not even in America, it was in Scotland. And you’re sitting here, calling ME an idiot, as you attempt to take one person and paint an entire demographic as inherently evil and dangerous. “Ted Bundy was a white guy; I’M a white guy…. THEREFORE, both of us, and all other white guys, are murderous cannibals.” That’s the same kind of logic you’re throwing at me. That suggests a serious deficiency in your ability to reason on par with other adult humans.
It would seem to me that you harbor some baseless prejudice against trans people in general, and you’re looking for any isolated incidents you can find that were perpetrated by trans people to justify YOUR irrational hatred, and paint it as if the alleged negative behavior is a consequence of just generally BEING trans.
No I don't.
The problem with restrooms is, just because some is wearing a dress is no proof that they don't have a dick.
Trans-women should absolutely not be allowed into women's-only facilities like showers and locker rooms unless they have undergone bottom surgery. If they haven't, they should be arrested for entering those women's spaces.
Trans-women should not be allowed to competed in women's athletics because they are not women. Women are women, "trans"-women are not.
Due to their bone structure and ability to gain extra muscle, trans-women have an unfair advantage when it comes to physical sports.
They rob real women of scholarships, recognition, sponsorships and potential income.
Fake women shouldn't be allowed to complete in women's beauty pageants, either. That's like allowing women who have gotten plastic surgery to compete.
Why do some so-called experts claim that it's impossible to define what is a woman?
I also object to efforts to change gender specific pronouns to nonsense like ze and hir. And the effort to eliminate reference to women and mothers with terms like "birthing parent" and "menstruating person", as if anyone but women can give birth or menstruate.
How are trans rights merely an effort to gain acceptance and respect when they are disrespectful toward women?
In some respects, I think push for trans rights is dangerous and subversive. They already have the the same rights as everyone else. What else do they want, aside from being referred to as "women" rather than "trans-women"?
I'll be respectful to transgenders. I have two, fully transitioned, adult transgender friends - a trans-man and a trans-women. They are both really cool people and it has nothing to do with their gender. They are low-key about their gender and just try to blend in.
But I won't be respectful to some dude who looks like a dude and throws a fit about being called sir by a shop keeper who doesn't know him. I won't be respectful of a fat, ugly, bull dyke who throws a fit about being called ma'am under similar circumstances. Those people are not respectful and, therefore, deserve no respect.
It would be nice if people treated each other with kindness, courtesy and respect. But nobody has a "right" to be accepted and treated with kindness. All kinds of people get bullied and treated with disrespect. People get their feelings hurt all the time. You can't legislate courtesy and kindness.
For example, some people are disrespectful toward men; some people are disrespectful toward women; some people are disrespectful toward certain body shapes; some people are disrespectful toward other races, ethnicities and spiritual beliefs; some people are disrespectful toward different political ideologies.
And some people get offended over anything at all.
There is no way to prevent hurt feelings. And the First Amendment guarantees the right to express thoughts that others might find offensive.
I support trans rights like being able to get Healthcare & education, housing, jobs etc. Without discrimination.
If there's restroom in those places & they're segregated by gender for some reason, then should not be discrimination there. If u can get job or education through sports & the sports are segregated by gender for some reason, that should not be discriminated either.
Hope this helps ❤
I support their rights and have no problem sharing a bathroom with them. Very few of them are there to prey on women and most would be in danger using men's bathrooms from either assault or rape. Most just are there to use the bathroom and get out. I have several trans friends who would tell you the same.
1000% agree with you!! Thanks for sharing girl!! ❤️🏳️⚧️
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Should trans girls be allowed to use the women’s bathroom? Hell fucking no! They are still men.
Should trans women be allowed to play women’s sports? No, these "girls" have XY chromosomes in every cell of their body, had years of muscles develop with the influence of testosterone, and it is obviously extremely unfair to real women.
Also the opposite too? Trans "men" only rarely try to complete in men's athletics. Can you guess why?
My views tend to be left-leaning on most things, but when it comes to trans stuff, my views tend to be more conservative. While I believe a mentally sound adult has the right to undergo a gender change surgery if they want, and it takes nothing away from me to call them by their preferred pronouns, I do think that's where it stops.
I don't believe a minor should be able to undergo a gender change surgery. If you can't be trusted to vote, can't be trusted to have a beer, can't be trusted to rent a car, can't be trusted to have sex, then why the hell are you being trusted to make a huge life decision like that?
I do not support trans women competing in women's sports, as they are factually, biologically different from a woman.
I don't believe a trans woman should be allowed to use the women's restroom unless we go back to having paid restroom attendants like the old days. Or a building has multiple restrooms, where at least one is for only biological women and any that allowed trans women are clearly labelled as such.
Unlike race, gender, age, or disability, being trans actually is a choice. And while I fully support someone's right to make that choice, I can't support the demand for everyone else to accommodate that choice. Identify yourself however you please, but I think it's unreasonable to then decide that everyone else must identify you as the same.
Good explanations.
Do you support transgender rights? Yes
Ie: should trans girls be allowed to use the women’s bathroom? No one is going to be inspecting your genitals and you’ll be in & out without an issue so, yeah most definitely since I hear stories of women using men’s restrooms at concerts so just makes sense it is an option though I do wish more places had family restrooms which could act as a gender neutral option for individuals too.
Should trans women be allowed to play women’s sports? If the women on the team / school agree to it then yes. In a professional setting I don't know I’m not against it or for it. In a non professional setting most definitely.
Also the opposite too? Yes trans men using mens restrooms is fine and there should be more family restrooms to act as a gender neutral option along with being involved in sports the way I mentioned it.
I detest with a burning passion all this transgender crap. What rights are people talking about? It's more like people will do what ever the hell they want with their own bodies.
If you want to become a coach potatoe and eat like a pig all day and gain 500 lbs there is nothing I can so to stop you.
If you want to get every square inch of your skin covered in tattoos there is nothing I can do to stop you.
and...
... if 40 year old Phil from sales who is 300 lbs over weight and has three chins and smells like gym socks all of the sudden thinks himself a women and wants to "transition" to a woman there is nothing I can do to stop him ( or her or whatever). This does not mean I have to agree with Phil's nut case decision to call him self a woman nor will I be forced or intimidated by any activist leftist group to say that there are 10,000 genders.
No matter what people on the left say, I still believe that Phil needs some help in the head department.
1. Yes.
2. Yes, as long as she actually IS a woman or is already well on the way to becoming one and presents 24/7! NOT for those who just CLAIM they're trans but are OBVIOUSLY still guys!! As far as I know, Dylan has not bothered to transition at all and, therefore, men's room for him!! He's nothing but a drag queen! IF women are okay with him using their spaces, okay. (I. E.: I used to work at a dinner theatre and one of the male actors was quite gay so, none of the women gave a shit about him being in their bathroom. If that's okay with them, that's okay with me.
3. No. There SHOULD be a separate section for trans sports.
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It is! Thank you 💋
No problem. I call `em as I see `em!
Absolutely not allowed to use the women's bathroom nor participate in women's sports. Transwomen still possess x and y chromosomes while biological women do not have the y. Whatever your biological form and no matter what you feel you identify as if you have a y chromosome you are not, cannot, and will not ever truly be a woman and that y chromosome means you possess certain physical attributes that gives you unfair advantages over those whom do not have both the x and y chromosomes ie WOMEN. Do I believe in equal rights yes and that means you must respect the rights of biological women as a biological man. Believe what you want, say what you want, do whatever you please to your own body. Nobody cares or has a right to have a problem with that, but anything you do to yourself does not give you the right to violate or appropriate the space and rights of others.
Well they have the right to have an opinion but cannot rightfully interfere with or punish you for whatever you wish to do to yourself as long as your causing no harm to others
No no no no! Women need a safe place! Letting Men who just claim they are trans into our young girls safe place!
Highschool is hell for young women changing bleeding and crying! Your letting men into their bathroom who stare look and grope them!
Being a teacher the real trans kids don't want the girls bathroom. It's only the guys who wanna go on and peak touch and most of the time try and rape girls in there!
Trans rights are a huge joke! Give them a separate bathroom! Don't force girls to be assaulted and then yelled at for trying to not be assaulted don't a bully in her own bathroom.
Women need our own sports! This boxing joke shows why!
Trans rights are a joke it's women's rights being trampled on by men who can't be men so they go for someone weaker that can step on!
Sure have a spare bathroom for your feelings don't make us women pay for your rights!
No I do not , I stay clear from it as much as possible , I have nothing against transgender people
, it’s their life and their choice just as long as they don’t try dragging me into it , I am fine with it , when it comes to bathrooms , I don’t care which one they choose , just as long as they aren’t trying to fuck with me , I am fine with it Everyone of us has to piss or shit , so there were times I used the women’s ’ bathroom when the men’s bathroom was filled , so I have no room to talk on which bathroom someone can use. Just as long as they aren’t fucking with me I am fine with it
Those aren't rights. A transgender person should have the identical rights of their biological sex, and that's the end of it. And they do in the US.
As far as the desire for males to be in female private spaces and sports, it's up to the individual organization and not up to a government to enforce it. If a government wants to ban it in government facilities, that's fine, because they can set their own rules. Just leave private businesses alone. If they want coed changing rooms, that's their right.
They have the right to mental health care that none of them get.
"Affirming" care isn't care. If it was, we'd be telling the anorexic "of course you're fat, here have a weight loss surgery" - but we don't because they're not fat. It's body dysmorphia - exactly what the vast majority of trans people have.
The only exception is when someone presents as one sex but are genetically the other - XY chromosomes but externally the appearance of female or vice versa. For those individuals - less than 0.01% of humans - surgery to help them match outwardly what they are biologically. They have the right to that help.
i don't think that reflecting someones delusion can help them. i'm not a psychologists but i don't trust those on the matter either, cause it seems they're trying really hard to get sex change surgery and medication sold to people who really don't need it.
and if you're one of the rare intersex people that do happen to exist, i think still you shouldn't be allowed in sports. cause in male sports, you'd probably have a huge handycap and in female sports, you'll have an unfair advantage. so no to the sports thing. maybe make a special olympics category for those just for inclusion reasons.
as to the toilets: if you have a dick, you go to the male toilet and if you have a vagine, you go to the female toilet. there's no fringe cases. as far as i'm aware, there's not one single intersex person who has both working genitalia. for those with weird deformities, go with what it most looks like and that's it.
and i don't think cutting off your dick should be a free pass to the girls rest room...
I think people with gender identity disorder and gender dysphoria deserve to be treated compassionately. But I don't accept the transgender ideology that seeks to normalize that and force society to change. I don't think that men who "feel like" they are women should be allowed in women's restrooms or be allowed to compete against women and girls in sports. And I likewise oppose putting period products in men's restrooms because of the fantasy that "some men" menstruate.
Should transgender women be permitted to use women's restrooms? No.
Should transgender women be allowed to participate in female sports? No.
Women have come too far to have transgender women occupy our spaces. Transgender women should have their own room.
You can't transition from one gender to the other. You can change from man to mutilated man, or woman to mutilated woman. The rest of the work is done by delusion and mental illness.
If there was such a thing as an actual transgender woman, yeah, sure. Use the women's room.
But there isn't. Especially not the ones who still have a dick and just want to get themselves off on peeing with women. It's creepy. It's every r@pists dream to be able to do this, and girls know it.
Honestly, it's common sense. Biological men shouldn't be in women's sports or bathrooms. It's just not fair. Women have worked hard to get where they are, and letting men in their spaces messes with that. Like, we've seen guys crush women's records and take spots that should go to women. And for bathrooms? Women deserve their own safe space. You can't just ignore biology because of feelings. Let's keep it real and protect what's fair for everyone.
penises belong in the 'men's room, and non peni' in the other room...
the rest is just world sausage.
dressing in a skirt does not make someone a woman.
if it's confusing, use the bathroom at home or the neutral family one. heck, use the tree out back... that's natural.
Since this topic is mostly about declaring, or re-declaring, political allegiance then...
I'm walking down the road, found myself at the crossroads, without the slightest doubt turning left, keep walking for a while, past the democrats houses, and then... I finally hit the freaking concert I was looking for:
Yes I support it transgender rights. I have transgender coworkers, transgender friends, and transgender extended family. I don't see how anyone could get to know any of these individuals and not want support them.
I support their right not to be harrassed or discriminated against but they shouldn't get Extra special treatment and companies shouldn't be expected to bend over backwards to accommodate them.
No.. they can add trans washrooms and transports but they should not be allowed in woman's spaces.
I ONLY agree trans "women" can use female facilities once the dick has been sliced clean off.
There's been an increasing rise of trans "women" who are sexual predators, pedophiles, rapists, etc. using the fact that they are "women" to access female only things such as washrooms, etc. Just last year or year before there were cases of trans "women" being moved to female only prisons and well duh... raping the female prisoners.
Within reason, yes.
Trans people should be able to get jobs, healthcare, insurance, etc etc
They should not be able to compete in sports or go into bathrooms that are not binarily consistent. Studies show real danger and an increase of assault when that is allowed.
I support equal chances for all who qualify, or who deserve ''rights'' - no matter how these guys are set up.
To lift one specific group over others, or to grant additional attention or opportunities does no look ''equal'' to me.
Therefore --- I maintain a position of indifference.
Piss and shit wherever you want. I don't care. You don't even need to be trans. Separate bathrooms are bizarre anyway. Have a unisex one with just stalls.
Probability says your infinitely more likely to be violated at your home bathroom than a public one. Humans are SO BAD at risk assessment.
How do you define "rights" in such a way that something that cannot exist in a state of nature be a "right"?
If a person has to create it directly or indirectly it is called a service not a right. Nobody is entitled to a service except by mutually agreed upon contract of trade.
I support the rights of anyone to be who they REALLY are without it affecting others, I don't support the "right" of a man in a dress to share toilet facilities with my ten year old granddaughter, I do support the rights of women to not be required to share toilet facilities with said man in a dress,,,
I DO support the rights of trans people to not experience hatred etc based on the gender they present as,,,
Transgender rights? Wtf is that? Should people be treated respectfully - ofcourse. But that also mean those transgender people respect other people. If people do not wanna share bathroom with you then you dont be butthurt about it. Like that is your issues of all issues - that You can't pee with women? Or play sports with them? You have to admit that is weird.
Transgender's should have the same rights as every other person. They should not have extra special rights unique to them. No, men should not use the women's restroom. No men should not be able to take scholarships from women. Women can compete in men's sports if they're capable. There are no barriers to entry for the NBA, if a really good woman wants to try out for the Pacers she can. There are barriers for the WNBA because it's entire purpose is to give women a chance to compete.
Unfortunately no.
I agree that they should have the same rights as boys and if they face police persecution, they should take actions that denigrate or emotionally or physically bully a PERSON.
As for transvestites, I ask them to be careful how they behave.
Until now, all my meetings with transvestites have really been a great pleasure, but even they recognize and know the genetic differences between a man and a woman.
Should trans girls be allowed to use the women's bathroom? Yes, but only if they pass as the opposite gender. People should go where they cause the least amount of disturbance.
Should trans women compete in women's sports? HELL NO
I suppose it depends on what rights you have in mind. Do I think they should have a right to live as they wish in the privacy of their homes? Absolutely. Do I believe they should have the right to use restrooms that are for women? Well, the trans men should be but not the trans women. So Kinda. Same with women's sports: Trans men -- totally cool, trans women--nope.
So I guess I kinda support transgender rights.
In general nutral so not support.
For trans in lady area, prison and bath room, destroyed the whole point... unless after alteration surgery.
NO.
NO.
No, I don't. Genetic men should use facilities with other genetic men, and play sports only against other genetic men.
If that’s what you’re calling “rights” absolutely do not support mentally ill people forcing someone else to indulge their delusions.
I think they’re people with mental health disorders.
They need help, not by telling them what they’re thinking is true. Rather help them find a healthy solution to their body dysmorphia
Yes, and the grade schools here have converted to gender-free restrooms along with them available in city areas and airport. The naysayers forget how much safer that is.
Only if they support my right to let fire ants sting the inside of my asshole, and they better openly support it when I talk about it 24/7 365, that’s not a request I demand that.
Absolutely not. If I did, I would be trashing the rights of biological women and I won’t do that.
How so?
You can't support the rights of both sides, so I'll support the vast majority.
I can paint myself green and call myself a leprechaun, but that doesn't make me a leprechaun. It just means I'm crazy as a shithouse rat, like everybody who thinks you can change your gender, sex, whatever
What’s the difference between rights and privilege?
Right to be accepted, treated with kindness, right to be treated like a lady or a gentleman as you identify.
@schoolgirlskirtcaley. Nope. That's not a right. All kinds of people get bullied and treated with disrespect. You can't legislate courtesy, kindness.
There are Democrats who have bigoted attitudes toward Republicans. You can't fix that.
I think many people believe only females can be women and only males can be men.
Trans women are male and trans men are female. I think people get annoyed when they heard the mantra “trans women are women” or “trans men are men” because they feel like other people are trying to force them to believe something that don’t want to believe.
Anyway to your questions above yeah I guess it’s fine if a trans woman wants to use the female bathroom as long as she is going in their for normal reasons and not because she has some kind of sexual fetish. Autogynephilic trans women do exist
Should trans women be able to play in women’s sports? If they have gone through any part of male puberty no. Males are generally physically stronger and bigger than females. To the best of my knowledge HRT cannot change bone size
I support only constitutional rights. Where they are not specified, they are up to the states. Most don't support perverts.
Yes, ofcourse... trans rights are just basic human rights after all.
False.
Men wanting access to things that are exclusively for women (for a REASON) is NOT "just basic human rights". These men already have male rights - just because they FEEL like women does not mean they get access to women's spaces, sports, scholarships, etc. They have the basic human rights they were born with - not whichever ones they decide they feel like having.
Transwomen are men, so they should not be allowed to play at women’s sports.
Yes,
I support anyone who wants to better their lives.
This means being respectful towards all people (who aren't hurting others of course)
Why do they need rights, and not care instead?
They shouldn't be able to because if a girl saw the trans go into there while she was in there, I do not know about you but that would be a little creepy.
No, not at all. I mean unless they came into my stall and watched me pee and wipe. 🤣🤣🤣
Yes they are still humans. No they should not have more rights than anyone else.
As for sports. It seems like the only reason that the current trans woman? Only play in women’s sports because they are a nobody in man’s sports.
Do you support transgender rights?
Ie: should trans girls be allowed to use the women’s bathroom?
No.
Should trans women be allowed to play women’s sports?
Also the opposite too?
No.
No. Do not indulge in mental illness and lies!
So don’t follow Christianity and their hate filled ideas to not treat Transgendered people with respect, understood.
@snowboarder720 No. Follow Christianity! Hate sins, wicked ideologies and mental illness - transgenderism, not humans themselves. Embrace truth and justice. Strive to reclaim the people claimed by the devil for God and heaven! May they abandon they wicked ways of wokeness and see the true ugliness that hides inside it!
So hate sins, mental illness, and harmful ideologies that humans evolve the way given to us by the church. Understood 💯
@snowboarder720 Satan wants to defile humans as much as possible, because he hates God and His creations. That is why he plants wokeness, LGBT and other wickedness in people. He wants people so degraded that they will be ashamed to walk in presence of the Lord and will seek refuge in the darkness. Devil himself will be the prosecutor on Judgement Day. He wants us in hell. He is our enemy. It is merciful God in Holy Trinity and His church that offers rescue and salvation to humans.
Everybody of good will should fight with wokeness and its immoral, lewd stuff. We should pray to God and ask Saint Michael the Archangel, the prince of the heavenly hosts, so that he may thrust Satan and all the evil spirits, who prowl about the world into hell.
Way to reenforce my point. Have the day that you deserve! 👋🏻
I don’t follow your god or your religion as it teaches evil of its own.
I’ve seen what evil following god can do to others. Not for me or anybody else. Take care and thanks!
Trans rights should be equal protection of the law not policing speech or infringing on others rights.
No I don't support transgender rights. They have the right to do what they want to their bodies. But I have the right not to agree with them. I believe in 2 genders. Not hating on anyone. Just my personal belief
to life, liberty, and property like all humans? yes.
There is no right that non-trans people have that trans people don't.
Yes. They're human and deserve to be accepted like every other human.
They ruined Skittles and Luck Charms for me
Can't even look🤦♀️at rainbows the same 😕
Everything in the World has been
Gayifed 🤢
What about trans men in men’s restrooms?
I totally support that
I do indeed.
Hehe yes, I have🤣
No, I don't support mentally disabled delusional pedophiles
I do! Yup. 100%. M2F and F2M.
How Are you Olivia? Or should I say Oli? 😏
Hell no. I support biological men's rights.
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